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why all India while discussing any issues talk about luxury, money, empire etc? What is the value of person who has not accumulated wealth of fame, repute and money? Person who has accumulated all three has more impact on society. Also for any movement money, publicity and public support are three key elements. Even Gandhiji - after coming to India, first thing he did was collect money from his supporter to buy press. With those two he could get third element - i.e. public support. Look at the people around even Anna Hazare? He is surrounded by all rich - rather stinking rich people. They may or may not be bad or wrong but this how we know to perceive. Thats why almost every one talk about Ramdev's empire in terms of its money, luxury is another dimension of money only. Why such paradox? Whats so wrong in luxury - if earned by own caliber and hard work?? If donation given by people is so callled black money why bother, ideally speaking money is always earned by exploitation - Hope I am not touching hornets nest by this statement !!!!! Also in my opinion money remained in our country is not black money but it becomes black as soon as they leave Indian Shore. Money in economy is money in any ways you look at. Just because one government department say that money which you are talking about is not known to us, its black money its nonsense. By this yard stick all unknown storage of gold, silver, precious stones since centuries must not have any value and must be declared BLACK money by IT department. Our concern should be that in democracy every one has right to express their opinion within constitutional limitations and also has right to protest. Government also has right to refuse / withdraw permission due to various concerns. But no one has right to violence. Be it government of people.

Kesav I do not believe the path is not important. Both the path and the goal are equally important. But I fail to see why Ramdev's path is any worse than Anna's. Both are non violent agitations with an agenda, both are so called satyagrahis, both are unelected civil society members trying to impose their thoughts of anti corruption on the elected government. One has a cleaner image, the other is more media savvy and outspoken. One has following among middle classes, the other has mostly rural mass based support. Their goals are same or similar. Why are you so bothered if RSS or any pro Hindutva leader attends Ramdev's meeting. This is a fact that is being highlighted by the Congress as if it is a crime. I stand to be corrected but has Ramdev put this anti corruption onus only on one religion and barred other religions from attending the fasts meetings etc.? I never have voted the BJP or the Congress never will. I feel very strongly about secular harmony in India and remember Godhra. But I feel very strongly about pseudo secularity and tying up with caste based parties too. If you want to tarnish BJP on Hindutva I will point out Congress wooing caste votes in the cow belt. I think the basic point is pro vs anti corruption. Any one supporting anti corruption in their own way is doing a good job and I will continue to support them. These are voluntary protests Ramdev did not force people to attend neither did Anna so I do not think anyone should question their ways as incorrect.

I don't think govt ever wanted to beat/harm anybody in the stage....Only protesters in the stage wanted to create scene by pelting stones(what type of sathyagraha is it??)...... It was really developing in to a security mess by involvement of outdated saffron forces....Just think why Mayawati didn't allow Ramdev to enter UP....it's a security issue...... IMHO, eviction happened with utmost care..... We must applaud Govt for evicting such non-sense from the capital with very little collateral issues..... Corruption is a virus and must be eradicated through people's movement. The first step is Lokpal draft....The people's movement must not be allowed loose focus on it..... Once Lokpal bill passed, Anna's team can take up next issue. Let then Baba Ramdev do his fast in Haridwar in his multi-crore ashram for bringing back black money. I can bet nobody will ever turn up if he does it in his Ashram by looking at the luxuriant atmosphere prevailing there. I can say with conviction that more than 80% of the donations given to God and Godmen are black money. The most damages due to Lokpal will happen to BJP(especially in Karnataka) and that's the primary reason they want to dilute Lokpal movement with help of Saffron handlers. If BJP was sincere, why didn't their state governments reply to centre's questionnaire on Lokpal??? Is it not delaying tactics??? IMHO, each and every political party in equal measure is scared of Lokpal. Each one trying to sabotage the movement by their own time tested tactics. Congress by sending questionnaire .... BJP by supporting Ramdev's antics...... you looks like a leader/agent of congress.... no person in universe is perfect, same applied to baba and anna but the way congress is behaving is highly undemocratic. and look carefully the videos of the ramlila ground, police is beating people and one lady has broken her spinal cord. even supreme court has issued notice to govt, delhi police for this, then how can can u support this type of action in midnight ....... No political party in India is clean but congress is dirtiest among all. I will never vote for congress... and moreover our PM, he shows utter strange behaviour like slaves. apologies to kshah, my post was intended to kesav

The basic point is corruption vs anti corruption. Not you vs me, not Congress vs BJP, not Anna vs Ramdev. We might not support Ramdev's way of launching his agitation, but then we must not support how the government of democratic country silences protests. Whatever be Ramdev's intentions, whatever black white money he has, his demands were correct i.e. declare black money as national property and bring it back. This saffron vs secular nonsense is now a dead horse. Do not flog it up. It does not matter if Ramdev is pro Hindutva or anti Hindutva. What matters is he is anti corruption. Anyone can see the UPA is afraid to bow down to Ramdev or Anna because it sets precedent where democratically elected government has to listen to unelected civil society. The Congress has ruled India for the most duration. In turn, it has accumulated the most wealth. It has the most to fear. The centre's questionnaire is a bluff. No political party would be willing to respond to it. No point in slating the BJP. Even the communist parties have lambasted it. The government views the lokpal as a completely different body than what the civic society wants. Please let us not heap mud on Ramdev or anyone else who is working on this anti corruption movement. I do not care if Ramdev is a saint or a con man. I do not care if he has black money. All I know is that he is asking for black money to be seized. If he has black money and willingly taking this risk then kudos. I am fed up like many Indians about this pro people government, India rising, India shining, Bharat Nirman, when all that actually happens is Neta rising, Neta shining. There has never been inclusive growth and there never will. Heck if Hitler was doing a satyagraha now for anti corruption I would support him.

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Mini Review of GalaxyPOP_CDMA... Pluses:- 01. Response of capacitive screen is very good (for the price) and it supports multi-touch and the size is also good (3.1" I think).. 02. The three HARDWARE keys (Menu, Home, Back) feels much much better than the capacitive keys on my EPIC.. 03. OMH compatible and 1x/EV-DO with offer (15GB x 2 months FREE) was immediately available after number activation on OMH ruim ( as I am using TATA, no need to call CC to activate EVDO from back-end.. 04. Has the goodness of Froyo like pinch-zoom home screen, moving apps, installing apps on SD, (comparing my EPIC with Eclair) 05. Has got SWYPE pre-installed and is working great, you wont miss any keypad/keyboard... 06. Phone is thin and beautiful (for my eyes atleast) 07. Network coverage is EXCELLENT comparing my EPIC... 08. Almost all the apps I have installed on EPIC is working without any major issues on the small screen like quick-settings, preHome, TalkingTom, batteryWidget, Tapatalk, IndianRail, QuickPic, QuickOffice, ALMOST all games <but slow, as expected>, dictionaries, media-players, widgets, etc.. 09. UI speed is good (for the price, RAM) 10. WiFi tethering is working great and I use POP's net on my EPIC (as 1x plans are costly) 11. Memory card slot is outside and you need NOT open the cover to remove card as in EPIC.. 12. Last, but NOT the least, it is a BANG-FOR-THE-BUCKS-CDMA-ANDROID-SMARTPHONE, comparing ridiculously high priced official BBs and other official CDMA smartphones... (I bought for 9k 2 weeks back) MINUSES:- (I WON'T compare it with my EPIC here, promise) 1. Resolution is a issue (only) when browsing websites on browser.. (OperaMini comes to rescue) 2. Camera is FixedFocus and GoogleGoggles and BarcodeReader apps are NOT working (other than that the quality of 3MPx camera is more than enough for occasional snaps).. 3. BatteryLife is NOT that great, that is you SHOULD NEVER expect it to run for MORE-THAN-A-DAY-OF-REGULAR-USE... (Further I doubt therez some issue with the battery of mine as its temperature is always higher in the range of 35 to 45 degree centigrade, but my EPIC's is around 22 to 32 degrees only, using Battery_Solo_Widget) Small NUISANCES:- (Means NOT a deal-breaker issues) 1. The placement of power/Lock button, I used to accidently press volume buttons while pressing power button... But it will be sorted out in few days of using the phone (getting used to)... 2. Sometimes the screen will be over-sensitive and phone will get confused with clicking for scrolling up/down... A solution is using half-cm of the index-finger for scrolling, instead of using just the finger-tip... P.S. :- I have bought this for my wife to replace her CorbyCDMA... She is more than happy with this phone... For her, the capacitive screen, multi-touch UI, youtube videos via 3X, soo many Games, webBrowsing on OperaMini, sooo many apps <I have installed some 150 apps now for her>, Swype are like SEVEN_WONDERS...

Dude, I was commenting with the big picture in mind, and you are commenting on specifics. When I say the electorate gets what it deserves, it does not automatically follow that politicians are absolved of all evil. How/why do politicians even like Digvijay Sing get to be in government? And thats giving just a worst case example. I agree with what Kshah said somewhere above - whatever stance someone may have about Ramdev, the Govt's action is worthy only of condemnation, and it should be made accountable for its actions.

Supreme Court Issues Notice To Centre on Ramdev's Eviction Source NEW DELHI: Taking suo motu cognisance of forceful eviction of yoga guru Baba Ramdev and his followers from the Ramlila grounds here, the Supreme Court on Monday sought the Centre's response on the incident. A vacation bench of justices B S Chauhan and Swatenter Kumar issued notices to the Union home secretary, chief secretary of Delhi, Delhi administration, and Delhi police commissioner asking them to respond within two weeks. The court asked them to reply as to what were the circumstances under which the people had to be dispersed at midnight by the use of force. The court posted the matter for hearing in the second week of July. However, the court declined to entertain a petition filed by advocate Ajay Aggarwal on the issue. The bench expressed its displeasure that before the matter came up for hearing before it, the entire contents of the petition were leaked to the media. Police had cracked down on Baba Ramdev and thousands of his supporters at Ramlila Maidan on Saturday night, forcibly ending their hunger strike on corruption and black money issues.

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