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The Hindu Business Line - September 30, 2004 BHARAT Sanchar Nigam Ltd has threatened to pull the plug off Reliance Infocomm's international long distance network for allegedly carrying illegal traffic on its network. BSNL is understood to have disconnected Reliance's point of interconnection in Ahmedabad a few weeks ago because of this. Senior BSNL officials confirmed that the matter was being taken up with Reliance at the State level wherever discrepancies were found. "It has been found that Reliance network was being used to route illegal ILD calls at various centres across the country. The issue is being taken up by BSNL officers at the local level," said a BSNL official. However, a Reliance Infocomm spokesperson said that the company was offering services as per licence norms and no illegal activities were being undertaken. "We are not aware of any disconnections. All our points of interconnection with BSNL are working." The spat between Reliance and BSNL has been on for some time now. Earlier, Reliance had blamed the state-owned company of purposely denying interconnection, which was putting off the former's rollout plans. BSNL disconnects Reliance Infocomm's POI in Ahmedabad Mumbai, Sep 30 : State-owned telephony major Bharat Sanchar Nigam Ltd (BSNL) has disconnected Reliance Infocomm Ltd's Point of Interconnect (PoI) in Ahmedabad, citing movement of "illegal traffic" through the POI. The Public Sector Undertaking is also seeking a penalty of Rs one crore from Reliance Infocomm, stating losses due to "illegal routing of international traffic" through the PoI, top BSNL officials told PTI here today. The POI was disconnected early this week and whether Reliance has footed the penalty could not be ascertained, he said adding, details are yet to reach the incumbent's Delhi office. Meanwhile, industry sources said BSNL had taken the issue to Telecom Regulatory Authority of India which had subsequently forwarded it to Department of Telecommunications, whose decision is awaited. BSNL is also planning to undertake random checks at Reliance Infocomm's PoIs at other places in the country to check whether such illegal traffic is taking place through other POIs, they said. This would be done at the district levels of the state-owned company, they said. Meanwhile, Reliance Infocomm officials denied the termination of the POI, saying "we are not aware of any such moves". Minor issues on inter-connectivity, Access Deficit Charges occur, which would also be settled after talks, they said. PTI

Got some good news & bad news about a feature in version 2.0.0 The good news first... you can view the Lo-fi version )http://www.rimweb.com/forums/lofiversion/index.php) of the forum in your WAP enabled handset ! The bad news... its not working on R-Surf, though its working fine in GSM WAP enabled handsets.

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Invision Power Board already has a powerfull search engine integrated with it. Why need a third party site to search RIMweb.com ? Also, Google's service is a paid one

The Hindu Business Line - Thursday, September 30, 2004 As part of its second phase of expansion plans, Mobile services major, Reliance Infocomm Ltd (RIM) is expanding its network to cover over 500 major cities and towns in Tamil Nadu within five months, a top RIM official said here today. With the roll out of second phase of Rs 4,000 crore National investment, RIM will cover 575 major cities and towns in Tamil Nadu within 100 to 150 days, Mr V G Somasekhar, RIM business head for Tamil Nadu and Kerala, said. Of the total investment, the company would spend about 10 to 12 per cent for its expansion covering all the districts in Tamil Nadu, Mr Somasekhar said, adding the total fibre network in the state would increase from 80,000 Km to 1.2 lakh Km on completion of the project. Somasekhar said use of Reliance IndiaMobile phones for data transfer was on the rise and the new expansion would not only provide mobile technology, but easy wireless internet accessibility to the customers. Eventually, RIMs services would be spread to all 985 towns in the State, he said, adding the company was also bringing the pilgrimage towns in Tamil Nadu and Kerala, particularly Sabarimalai, under its network.

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14 held in phone call racket TIMES NEWS NETWORK[ FRIDAY, SEPTEMBER 24, 2004 03:35:47 AM ] PUNE: In a major raid, the Cantonment police on Thursday arrested 14 people for their alleged involvement in a telephone call racket of national and international calls. The suspects have been remanded to police custody till September 27 by a city court. The police have registered a complaint under section 420 (cheating) of the Indian Penal Code. Vishnu Mane, senior police inspector of the Cantonment police station, said officials of Reliance Infocomm had earlier called up deputy commissioner of police Vitthal Jadhav, informing him about the racket. A police team, led by assistant commissioner of police Ashok Kamble and Mane, soon raided room number 312 at the Sterling Centre in Pune Camp. "We have confiscated 24 phones, which were being used in the centre," Mane said. The gang had illegally taken 19 lines of the Reliance company. "International and national calls were made through the conference call facility and the accused had established a fake company to get the phone connections," Mane said. The suspects mostly connected calls to West Asia, along with other parts of the country. The gang was operational since September 2, 2004, and had duped the Reliance to the tune of Rs 18.65 lakh, Mane said. The mastermind of the racket is still at large. The 14 arrested have been identified as Ayaz Sheikh (23), Akakhan Khan (18), Istibar Patel (26) Anwar Sheikh (18), Sameer Sayyed (21), Shahnawaz Safi (30), Aurangzeb Sheikh (25), Rizwan Sheikh (22), Gazib Sheikh (33),Rustam Sheikh (26), Pervez Hyder (31), Ibrahim Memon (20), Kulvirsingh Vrudhasingh (30) and Sadanand Adya (36). Mane said the 14 suspects were just operators who knew how to divert calls and were not educated. Asked if the accused were using this business for any other illegal activity, he said the possibilities were bleak, but the police were investigating. A similar racket, involving the BSNL, had been detected a few months ago in the city, resulting in the arrest of three people. Stolen plastic pays cell bills Express India - Mumbai, September 21 FIVE Reliance Infocomm customers used fake names and stolen credit cards to run up Rs 7.87 lakh in telephone bills to Pakistan, Saudi Arabia and Egypt in just a few months. The Worli police have now launched a massive manhunt to nab them. ‘‘We can only make headway in the case if the cellphones are activated,’’ warned Assistant Commissioner of Police P S Wahule, confirming that a case of cheating has been registered by Reliance Infocomm. The scam came to light after four people complained to Reliance Infocomm that the company had charged huge bills to their credit cards. None of the four had Reliance phone connections. The bills were paid on behalf of five Reliance customers, all of whom had given fake names and addresses. Police are now checking for a mafia connection, as the five made frequent calls to destinations frequented by underworld dons. The bills were charged to the credit cards of Chandrakant Sen, Mukesh Mehta, Bharat Joshi and Tarun Jhunjhunwalla. Reliance Infocomm has now refunded their money. Police have zeroed in on a courier firm on LBS Marg in Ghatkopar, which was hired to deliver the victims’ credit cards. Police sources say one of the company’s employees was involved in stealing the cards. The Economic Offences Wing of the Crime Branch has been alerted and is conducting a parallel investigation into the case. ‘‘Preliminary investigations indicate the compliance of a courier company,’’ confirmed a Reliance spokesperson. ‘‘We are back-tracking the phone calls.’’ Five Reliance customers with fake names ran up these bills on stolen credit card accounts in just a few months with calls to Pakistan and the Middle East. Reliance has requested that the names they used be withheld while investigations are underway.

PTI [ SUNDAY, SEPTEMBER 26, 2004 04:06:13 PM MUMBAI ] Broadband and mobile telephony major Reliance Infocomm Ltd has launched a Security Engineering Course to train students in combating security and cyber crimes. "Security is normally viewed as a low-end job of a gateman or a watchman in an Army-like uniform. But with the advent of technology in all arenas of life, this will assume a great importance and become a necessity," Reliance Group president (management services) V V Bhatt told here on Sunday. The company plans to train NCC 'C' certificate holders, who traditionally dream of joining the defence forces, under its Security Engineering Course, he said. Reliance would offer them an opportunity to join the corporate world "not just as a security guard, but to make a challenging career," as they would also be trained on high-tech areas of cyber crimes, he said. "We plan to recruit 40-45 graduates with NCC certificates annually for the course, which also encompasses commando training conducted by experts from the Army and Mumbai Police, he said. The company intends to catch youngsters and train them in data security, including information theft and cyber crimes, among others skills. Reliance Infocomm has opened its training centre at Lodhivali, near Panvel (Navi Mumbai) and has already received over 6,000 applications from students interested in the course, he said. Reliance Infocomm would recruit the pass-outs for various centres of Reliance Infocomm, Reliance Industries and the recently-acquired NOCIL, he added. The company had earlier introduced a similar training programme for children in computer and multi-media, 'Cyber Kids', and one for housewives, 'Cyber Moms', both of which are being conducted through its Web Worlds. The telephony major was also planning to provide training to over one lakh college students and housewives in communication skills.

It isn't possible jusmail. swaroop, I'll keep an eye on it

Thanks for clarifying it for the benefit of others, hyper !

Please read this post for all clarifications.

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I don't care about the money made through the banners. The bottom one will be removed soon as the response wasn't very good, only a few buyers. Baazee's minimum clicks required is still lot more.... So don't get the feeling that these banners make me rich overnight. I don't mind the money I spend/lose on running this forum, but its my time schedules that take a hit.

I have mentioned about it earlier (see the Introduction thread) BTW, Chirag didn't mean that I'm run out of money to run the site

Thats right ! Good thing that I had added it to Favourites earlier

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Sure! Its the new improved "Multi Quote" feature from Invision Power Board ! Check out my next post to know what it is exactly. Yes, it has been set like that so that the screen space won't be clogged up whn someone post large pictures and to save bandwith (for me and you !) Check out my next post to see more details about it. Avatars issue has been fixed too now. Thanks for pointing it out.

where did you see the regular QUOTE button Chirag ? The +QUOTE button is the same as in earlier version. Nothing special. Thanks for pointing out the issue with emoticons... it has been fixed now. Couple of new ones have been added too I guess the avatars are showing fine.

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The Hindu Business Line - Mumbai , Sept. 25 Some of the defaulting customers' unpaid bills were partly or fully waived to persuade them to shift to prepaid services. AROUND two million of the roughly eight million Reliance IndiaMobile postpaid wireless customers have moved to prepaid services since the launch of the company's new tariff package on August 15, according to sources in the company. This constitutes a 25 per cent shift to prepaid from the company's postpaid segment, which would come as a relief to Reliance IndiaMobile officials, who are keen to weed out several defaulting customers accumulated over the last year. The company's August 15 package, which started a new round of the tariff war among wireless operators, was partly designed to shift a significant portion of Reliance IndiaMobile's low-billing or defaulting customers to the prepaid segment. Some of the defaulting customers' unpaid bills were partly or fully waived to persuade them to shift to prepaid services, said sources. Some defaulting customers were even told that they had the choice of moving to prepaid services or having their phones disconnected. This way, the customers were provided an incentive to shift to the prepaid category. From the point of view of Reliance Infocomm, defaulting customers or low-billing customers were weeded out of the risky post-paid category but were still retained with the company. Often customers chose to retain their numbers and shift to prepaid services, said sources. One reason is that some individuals would rather not change their numbers. The other reason is that the Reliance CDMA handset, like most CDMA handsets, has been designed for Reliance Infocomm's operations. The prepaid-postpaid mix of new customers with the company has begun to follow the pattern of the more mature GSM market, with around 80 per cent of the new subscribers being in the postpaid category, said Reliance Infocomm sources. Reliance Infocomm had provisioned for bad debts amounting to 16 per cent of revenues for 2003-2004 and does not want the pattern to continue, said officials. The company provisioned Rs 436 crore for bad debts, while service revenues for the year amounted to Rs 2,707 crore. The company attributed its bad debts to the `Monsoon Hungama' offer of last year, which fetched one million applications within the first 10 days of its launch.

Abhishek, please read the post by Code (just above your post)

Saurav, should I interpret your first sentence as... " no cdma handsets can be converted to GSM " or " no, cdma handsets can be converted to GSM " Well, after seeing your following sentences, it seems to be the former one. But the thing is, he must have changed 75% of the CDMA components to convert to GSM.

Webmail was working fine till Tuesday. From Wedneday, it started showing an error: RMS 021 unable to process request. And today, the menu has been removed from R-World. I hope it will be back soon as it was a real cool application.

The row between the GSM and CDMA camps boils down to sharing spectrum space or the frequency band that can be allocated to them. Here's the nitty-gritty of the issue. The Hindu Business Line Monday, Sep 20, 2004 IT was thought that the introduction of the unified access service licence late last year had put an end to the bickering between the GSM and CDMA mobile camps in India. But the recent open sessions of the Telecom Regulatory Authority of India (TRAI) on spectrum allocation saw them at loggerheads again. Representatives from both camps were getting more and more agitated with each succeeding session of the TRAI; finally it culminated in members of the Cellular Operators Association of India (which represents the GSM operators) walking out of the Delhi open session claiming they were upset at TRAI's stance on the issue. Availability of adequate spectrum to mobile service providers lies at the heart of their quality of service to consumers. The main disagreement between the camps is to do with the allocation of spectrum in the 1900 MHz range. According to COAI, TRAI's consultation paper on the subject appeared to consider the use of this band for CDMA purposes. COAI contends that this would block GSM's transition to 3G (third generation mobile) services. T.V. Ramachandran, Director-General, COAI, alleges that TRAI refused them permission to discuss the use of the US PCS (personal communication service, a generic term for a mass market mobile phone service) 1900 MHz band and instead asked them to make a separate presentation to the regulator on the issue. "We want to discuss it in an open forum," says Ramachandran. Instead, he says, they were asked to discuss the 450 MHz band for which GSM operators do not have infrastructure nor equipment in place. How important the issue is — not just to India, but to the world GSM and CDMA industry — was highlighted by the fact that the COAI had flown down several international representatives from overseas, including Josef F Huber, Senior Spectrum Advisor from GSMA (which is the association of GSM operators and technology providers worldwide); while the CDMA Development Group (the corresponding world association for the CDMA industry) sent its own response to the TRAI consultation paper. And in addition, it was amply represented by Qualcomm (CDMA technology pioneer) India representatives as well as Tata Teleservices and Reliance Infocomm officials. Both sides of the argument "Worldwide, Japan, Europe, and Korea have arrived at a consensus that the core Band 1920 MHz and 1980 MHz, coupled with 2110 MHz and 2170 MHz, will be for 3G purposes," said Huber, speaking to eWorld on the sidelines of the open session in Mumbai. According to him, the only companies not part of this consensus were Qualcomm and a couple of vendors. He wants India to go the way of the consensus that the earlier group arrived at. If CDMA gets the 1900 MHz band, the world core band will get cannibalised, he says. "We (GSM) do not want to cut away from our future." According to him, around 70 per cent of wireless users are GSM customers, worldwide the percentage being higher at 80. With such a large proportion of users being GSM, he says "it is in the interests of the Indian economy that spectrum allows us an evolution point. It is also important for the IT industry in India." The CDMA Development Group (CDG), in an e-mail response from the US, disputed the existence of such a definite `core band' at all: "First of all, it should be understood that there is nothing called `core band' and this word has not been used anywhere by the International Telecommunications Union (ITU). This is a term being coined by GSM supporters. Says the CDG: "It was, and still is, the European view that the 1920-1980/2110-2170 bands should be globally harmonised for IMT 2000 or in particular UMTS, but there is no International Telecommunciation Union decision that mandates that to be the case, no matter how vehement the GSM lobby states otherwise. Therefore, if GSM players are trying to tell TRAI that India cannot go against a worldwide trend, they are not telling the truth." (International Mobile Telecommunications-2000 (IMT-2000) is the global standard for third generation (3G) wireless communications, defined by a set of interdependent International Telecommunication Union Recommendations. IMT-2000 provides a framework for worldwide wireless access by linking the diverse systems of terrestrial and/or satellite based networks. Universal Mobile Telecommunications System or UMTS is a future mobile communications system which is one of the ITU's proposals for technologies for world standards for third generation mobile communications (IMT-2000)). According to CDG, the trend is to recommend a policy of flexibility. "This is why the 3GPP (3rd generation partnership project) has already standardised 1800 MHz bands for UMTS and has been asked to quickly standardise even 900 MHz bands for UMTS. They want to provide flexibility to provide 3G in multiple bands. No one in ITU is insisting on one band for 3G." What CDMA wants is for 1900 to be allotted to it in India. Says the CDG: "Globally, the CDMA systems are working in 800 - 1900 US PCS band and GSM systems work in 900 - 1800 MHz bands. In fact in some countries, such as the US, GSM and CDMA co-exist in the 1900 MHz band (US PCS band). Of course, they operate in different areas of the US PCS band. "It is clear, by all measures and by actual experience around the world, that the allocation of PCS 1900 spectrum to CDMA will not block the GSM migration to 3G. This is not just something that we are saying — it's what is in practice. Even the ITU recognises this fact — it is possible for CDMA2000 and WCDMA (an extension of GSM, actually) to co-exist in different parts of the ITU recognized IMT-2000 bands." Currently GSM operators in India work in the 900 MHz and 1800 MHz bands while CDMA operates in the 800 MHz band. CDMA equipment providers worldwide provide for 800 and 1900 bands and dual handsets are available which can operate seamlessly on both bands. If India follows some other system, then it will find it difficult to procure equipment? "Can ease of procurement for one camp be the sole reason for eligibility for a particular spectrum?" asks one GSM representative. According to this camp, Korea CDMA operates on the 1800 MHz band and why cannot Indian CDMA too? "That means equipment is available." To which the CDG says: "In Korea, one operator has been allocated frequency in 800 MHz band and the other two operators have been allocated frequency in Korean PCS. Its important to point out that in Korea there is no operator having 800 and Korean PCS band. There are no dual band handsets in 800 MHz and Korean PCS band even after eight years or more of Korean CDMA implementation. All leading CDMA manufacturers of handsets and infrastructure have confirmed in writing that they do no have the handsets and infrastructure, which will work in 800 MHz and normal DCS 1800 MHz band. This is a critical issue. Therefore consideration is not of `ease of purchase' as alleged but that of availability from multiple vendors. Korean PCS frequency is not a standard band and we do not recommend it for use anywhere else in the world." (This is evident from the fact that manufacturers are not developing dual mode equipment for that band.) But this slugfest over spectrum allocation may not be confined to the two warring camps. There are other technologies too asking to be considered, among them the home-grown cor-DECT technology. Midas Communications, which sells cor-DECT technology equipment, says in its submission to TRAI: "corDECT is designed and developed in India and manufactured by over eight entities in India and abroad, and also exported to over 15 countries. Making this band `Technology Neutral' would amount to making spectrum availability for corDECT installations in its `country of birth' more difficult, if not impossible. And would be a blow to indigenous technology development. "DECT air interface is internationally used in the band (1880-1935 Mhz, and no other band), on the other hand GSM and CDMA operation is supported in many possible bands. We quite appreciate the need for allocation of additional spectrum for the CDMA/GSM operations, but it should not be done at the expense of other technologies, which serve small towns and rural areas very effectively and strengthen India's technology development."