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thats worth remembering.... i'll jus lay low...no broadband for me now...under the current circums, i might even settle for the 28 kbps airtel/gprs 600 monthly scheme !!...its got no d/l limit. some broadband.

yup...make sure the connection is active ! altho rworld IS free, it does NOT work with zero balance.Gotta have atleast 1 rupee(maybe atleast 5 paise) left in ur balance...

Petagonia..... interesting dudez.... Edited: Looks like its pAtagonia

numion.com...nice find devesh i got a thoroughput ["your speed"] speed of 7KBPS.... (with a p2p runnin in the background) 16KBPS ....(without anything else running) hmmm...how was yours ?

good question buddy... why indeed? the more basic a question gets, the more tougher is the answer gonna be...so said someguy. i donno "the" answer... im gonna be eagerly watchin this thread... i would luv to know "why"... its gonna be one dirty mix of reasons from non-existant policies to bad bureacracy to not-yet-started-infrastructure to even non-existant demands ! whatever....i think i'll stay away from broadband till the market-to-come hots up and the d/l caps go.

my number doesnt seem to figure in this "blacklist" ..... and i KNOW i (mis)used it a LOT.

thats from today's (31.12.04) Hindu.

hi guys... jus got back after 3 days in nagappatnam/velankani.... its BAD.... i donno what tyo say.....we're all lucky b*****ds. if u guys plannin on sendin anythin to the affected ppl, pls note these - - there's more than enough CLOTHES...they're lyin waste...do NOT send anymore clothes. - WATER....is the most desperately needed. WATER...More than food, more than anything else....

like, when we're rconnecting, does our IP address remain the same or does it keep on changing ?

im not too sure dude....guess u could start with a 'comlpain to the chatrman' on the ril website...somebody with a legal_background mite know how to go about an official case.... but this part about the 110rs std card recharge is GOOD news. how long u hope it would last? the rconnect usability of my recharges vary WIDELY....this current one is 4 days old...lets c how long it holds..... so, we're havent figured these two out...yet... 1. HOW LONG will the current free_net work ? (some people, i beleive, NEVER got affected by the "fixing" of the free_net_bug...and are still goin great guns, without a recharge - lucky u ) 2. HOW LONG would the latest rcv hold? donno what causes it to vary SO widely...(on my same fone, one rcv woudnt recharge at all, while the other has been lastin me for 4 days) so, for now the "blacklist" doesnt seem to be too rigid....if things DO get too hot, we've got GSK....

heres where our IP adress is displayed....(xp) control panel>network connections...single_click on the rconnect entry and in the left side 'details' pane, we see the IP adress(s) of our machine(client) and also of our server...(right ganesh? )

i didnt know they can do THAT SOMETHING WRONG WITH THIS.... LIKE PUNEET SAID- ITS GOT LEGAL IMPLICATIONS, YOU ARE ENTITLED TO KNOW UR BALANCE....AND RIL CANNOT WITHHOLD DETAILS...(atleast, SHOULD not) Bad luck bro....there r still people who r riding the free_rconnect without recharging....(no, im not that lucky, my fone needs a recharge 'now & then')

yup...something like this...did happen....first time it didnt recharge, 2nd time i got it recharged from webworld-it worked...but became zero balance next am. the current rcv has been running for two days now...(net) NO, they cannot GO ON deducing like ths, all the money we might have used eith rconnect previously...simply bcoz, we are NOT GOING KEEP ON RECHARGING THAT MANY TIMES, if we can see a "negative balance" going,,,at the max, we would stop at 2 or 3 times...like u did. try one more time(esp bcoz u say ur NOT rconnecting anymore) and IF still dips to zero in the a.m, consider gettin a gsk.

ok, buddy ...i mean, its not like i DONT want it free or somethin....

hmmm, i guess there is something in the way we look at the issue.... is it an SMS service which involves using rworld ? or is it an Rworld service which invovles using sms ? looks like, RIL looks at it from the first point_of_view...while we want it the other way.

hi...i could really use some advice here... we have this un-f ucking-beleivably fast net cnxn in our college/hospital....the taskbar cnxn icon says 100 Mbps, but i guess its the lan speed...its a pretty big lan with ~ 200 machines...the institution has some kinda satellite_dish_net_access....one company called Hughes India...i think. anyways, what im tryin to say is, i would LUV to run my azureus on that...and i have not been able to....so far ... first i had trouble with installing the jre, and then i had problems installing azureus....anyways, i got them all succesfully installed now. azureus well suppotts proxys and i have the proxy ip correctly configured in the azu settings. azu loads up fine but i keep getting the "unknown Host exeption" error...with the tracker....(even when remaining signed_in in the tracker website)...itried d/ling from a buncha different tracker sites, but they all come up with the same "unknown Host exeption" error i tried a lotta stuff but im stuck....suggestions please.... it would be a dream_come_true to p2p at such speeds.

prepaid is prepaid

.yeah....right, those r the 'dimensions' of "health"... praticaly speakin, this WHO's "definition" of health mite be considered irrelevent to everyday demands, as NOBODY qualifies as healthy,i.e. "perfect biological,psycological and social functioning". That is, if accept the WHO definition, we are all sick. smile.gif but surely science needs SOME kinda definition to start with. its better to remember- definitions of health are just that -definitions,nothin more. and this WHO one is pretty idealistic...like its not a...say...a operational definition....meaning, it doesnt lend to "measurement" of health. actualy, DEFINING "health" is so very elusive...its one of those things...u know, like happiness-everyone knows what/how it is BUT if v start "defining", we get to shaky grounds....lots of subjectiveness involved....and that makes "defining", and more importantly, "measuring" health FAR from simple. and of course, science has this obssesive habit of 'measurining' things. If u can make the link, this is precisly why all our 'measurements' of health have been framed interms of ~ ill-health --- (or lack of health) ~ the consequenses of ill-health --- (eg,morbidity, disability) ~ economic/occup/domestic factors that promote ill-health -all the ant-thesis of "health" !!! those are the best/possible ways we have to "measure" health. Not that this is bad or something...im jus stating a fact here. phew....thats was long....and exactly like tanveer had said, it has veeeered off .... and thanks to this one J.E.Park guy...let him R.I.P

yes tanveer....this whole business of bringing_doctors_under_the_consumer_act has very uncomfortable ramifications/implications....it does more than 'dampen'...it destoys the 'trust' part that is so essential in the doc-ptnt relationship....i hate this 'business'(pun intended:)) since there is a HUGE flip-side of the coin,i dont know which is wrong and which is right, but i know this for sure - i CANNOT treat my pts with the fear/thought of gettin sewed lurkin in the back of my mind.

HI DOC ...COIMBATORE,TN....You? edited : oh..ok..delhi..cool

cool, dude....lemme know the name of the book the "social" part means work doesnt involve ONE patient in a clinic...but involve the whole socity or community.... like say, the pulse_polio and other vaccination campaigns, most of the govt programs for the free treatment of TB/Malaria/filaria/leprosy cases and stuff like that.... "management " of malaria for drs in my field doesnt stop with TREATING malaria, but extends to the dealing with the actual cause- the mosquito - and attempts to solve the problem at the root level.....BUT THINGS ARE TOUGH TO CHANGE.... so u mite c me sprayin anti_mosquito_fog r somethin like that, one of these days

everything agreed tanveer,...we're NOT saying different things... xcept this one....i bought analgin yday - its sittin right in front of me !! btw, jus curious - u a doc or a rep ?

hmmm....thats actually a tough question dude ...Ignorance IS bliss - in more than one way...like, i would have answered SOMETHING to that, in a jiffy, if i was 5,6 yrs ago...NOW, i gotta think for a while for a sincere answer...! ok...basics first - forget the drug, think about the doctor first....there STILL are a few 'good' doctors around...drs who know what a drug CANNOT do...and in nother sense- drs who know what THEY can do without a drug. basically, these r ppl who look at their patients as ppl_to_be_healed and NOT as diseases_to_be_treated. it mite take a while, but find one of these 'good' guys..AND STICK TO HIM. Not all, but most Drs seem to come to this kinda maturity only around their 40s....That could be a pointer to findin 'ur dr'..but remember i said "not all, but mostly" - coz some young drs are quite 'mature' and some drs NEVER reach or CONCEIVE of such maturity ! "Health-care" is officially an "industry" now and hospitals/clinics have become the dealers/retail_outlets of this industry....and what marketing !!!...when i think of it,im actually glad im not at the receivin end of this whole sticky stick another PRACTICAL tip : never go for over_the_counter drugs from medical shops...i know its so much easier...but we ALWAYS end up taking inadequate dosages for an inadequate time period...this only makes thigs worse...in the long run... _________________________________________________________________ i TOTALLY TOTALLY AGREE WITH UR PREVIOUS POST Im only too aware of this mate....my speciality field is a branch called "preventive and social medicine" ..,and people never listen to us !! . yes, it is SO SO true, people never listen to stuff about 'takin care' until they r actually sick. only when we're down with some illness, do we really 'listen'....not a healthy trend.... but its not jus in the patients psychie, its in the whole doctor community psychie too....ONLY when someone is sick, does the doctor has anything meaningful to say/do...we are all supposed to be "health-proffessionals" but sadly we're all turning into "sickness professionals" or "disease-professionals"...this last bit - i 'borrowed' from a guy called Abraham Maslow...deep.

theres GOTTA be something basically different between the MS "search" we do our pc and the "search" we do on the web.... I mean, any websearch(not jus google) brings up millions of results in a second or two... WHEREAS,the pc's "search for files/folders" takes ~10 mins to search a 40GB HDD...ever wondered about that ? surely, different search technologies these...and i think google desktop kinda hybrids the two...and ijus LUV hybrids

my, my this is one topic i never thot wold figure in our forums...nice find deepu...and its a pandoras box. and right of the bat lemme tell u- thers SO MUCH MORE to this than meets the eye... these 'banned' drugs are not the low_quality_fake drugs (which is a HUGE problem by itself)....the drugs in the list are genuinly banned...IN THE WESTERN COUNTRIES. The fake drugs are a serious, but different issue...the advice "Plz make sure that u buy drugs only if prescribed by a doctor(Also, ask which company manufactures it, this would help to ensure that u get what is prescribed at the Drug Store) and that also from a reputed drug store. " - this protects u from possible fake drugs... polu, good to c medicos around and straight to the rescue of good old allopathy aka modern medicine...well, i guess that how i would have reacted too- 7,8 yrs ago when i was doin my UG... but trust me, theres a lotta murk in the field...and its ugly. High-pressure marketing/advertising is at the core of the multi-billion $ pharmaceutical industry...dumping all the drugs that got banned in west into the indian market...exactly like deepu had said... and PPL, let me get this straight - THERE REALLY IS AN OFFICIAL LIST OF BANNED DRUGS/ DRUG COMBINATIONS....its published by the world health organization....every damn year. and deepu could not have been more correct when he said "Not many people know about these banned drugs"...HECK NOT MANY DOCTORS KNOW OF THE LIST !...im serious here. i remember efforts from social activists like the 'MedicoFriendsCircle' to actually educate doctors about the list of banned drugs !!! think about it....the commonest source of info for a Dr about any new drug is thro the medical representatives...and...and, i mean they WORK for the company man, its his JOB to sell the product... beyond that if u want objective data, u gotta go for the journal articles....even here, remember most drug trials are SPONSERED by the drug company whos drug is being tested....more vested interests. im glad u ARE familiar with RCTs and clinical trials...keep it up...but also, try to read in-between the lines. Think about this one - "the proportion is too less to be a grave danger to general population" - then WHY THE HECK ARE THEY BANNED IN THE WEST ?? keep contemplating on this. seems our safety standards are much less stringent than FDA's... where did u hear THAT ??? recheck ur IDR/CIMS buddy....sure nimesulide has peadiatric syrups/suspensions...5mg/kg/day....i think. BUT THEN AGAIN, NIMESULIDE IS A "BANNED" DRUG ...!!! whadefuk what can i say dude...i dont wanna damage the "Doctor image" anymore...today. ...but dont u worry its not OUR fault, personally - its the whole goddamn system....and the pharma giants are playin puppets....im gettin increasingly sick of this s hit everyday. have u guys heard of "the essential drugs list" ? its compiled by W.H.O and u know what the msg is ? we need ONLY about 250 'essential drugs' to manage 98% of all our patients in a genaral practice setting.... ON THE OTHER HAND, do u know how many drugs/combinations are actually available in the market ?....80,000+ !!! yes...not 1000 or 2000, we have 80,000+ drugs flooding our markets.... HIGH POWER MARKETING...THATS ALL I CAN SAY.... i think i'll jus repeat deepus words... DANGEROUS DRUGS THESE DRUGS HAVE BEEN GLOBALLY DISCARDED BUT ARE AVAILABLE IN INDIA.