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  8. Posted · Report reply

    The offer of lt tariffs is not backed in writing, it is only oral by cc. So tata can at any time withdraw these tariffs. And in prepaid, trai rules of 6 months do not apply. Correct me if wrong. Their website does not say tariffs are lt if purchased before 31 august. Even i got the same info from cc as pkdaga. Someone did post photos of the pack which had some proof in writing on the lt tariffs, if i remember it correctly...

    LETS WAIT AND WATCH IF HISTORY REPEATS OR IS REWRITTEN....

    6month rule apply to prepaid also.

    wait for second batch of new sim card, that will surely have written per second tariff.

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    Just now i checked out my last 6month bill,

    I found i paid roughly 30%more than what i talked.

    Eg.i paid for 130minutes if i make conversation of just 100minute.

    This way u just think how much we will be get benifited with pulse in second.

    SO if reliance giving 400minute u talk only for 310minute,

    in such way calculation goes then for next (450docomo's actual talk-310rcom's actual talk)182minute(considering loss of 30%)

    we have to pay 180*.5/min=Rs 90.

    Thus ur bill comes to be Rs199rent+90. so by calulation i came to conclusion that both plans are equals .

    And the moment you cross that limit and your usage is higher (lets say Rs.200 more) - Tata scheme beats reliance. :Contento:

    then move to higher plan, it's simple. go for preminum499, Rs200 more as per ur wish

    This premium will definately saves mony than rcom225. or any plan.

    Also check out financial implication of plan

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    I was thinking whether other operators too will shift to per-second billing or will they brush it off as launch offer. :confuse:

    What are your thoughts guys?

    i think no one(specifically Vodafone) will shift to second billing exept new entrant. and

    When I spoke to CC, she said, all connections taken before 31st August will continue to enjoy the existing tariff till the life time validity.

    Yes this is very much true.

    also their is rule by TRAI u can't chage subscriber tariff for 6month.

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    Industry players in Europe agreed upon to work towards developing a pan-Europe standard mobile phone charger.

    The initiative has a Green touch to it as the European Commission feels that the move will lead to significant reduction in e-waste caused by redundant mobile phone chargers.

    The new charger will have a USB port as an interface and the Commission expects that it will take about three years time for most of the mobile phones in the region to adopt the new standard.

    Companies participating in the initiative include names such as Apple, LG, Motorola, NEC, Nokia, Qualcomm, Research in Motion (RIM), Samsung, Sony Ericsson and Texas Instruments. These companies between themselves cover 90 % of the market.

    "We are assuming that this new European standard will have a knock on effect globally and that manufacturers won't be just doing this on the European market, but will be doing this on other markets with Europe," said EU Industry Commissioner Guenter Verheugen.

    The Commission plans to extend the concept to products such as computers and cameras as well in future.

    Source: telecom tiger

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    MTS to rollout services in Bihar-Jharkhand this week

    TT Correspondent | New Delhi | 30 Jun 2009

    SSTL’s MTS brand will set its foot in the circle of Bihar-Jharkhand within this week, stated company President and CEO, Mr. Vsevolod Rozanov in an interaction with TelecomTiger.

    MTS already has launched operations in Rajasthan, Tamil Nadu, Kerala, Kolkata and West Bengal and has registered one million subscribers

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    MTNL MUMBAI BEGINS 3G HSDPA MOBILE BROADBAND SERVICE

    Source: telecomTalk

    Mahanagar Telephone Nigam Ltd (MTNL) today announced the commercial launch of first 3G Mobile Internet Service in Mumbai whichoffer enhanced 3G HSDPA (High Speed Down link Packet Access) Data services for residential and enterprise customers of Its Dolphin and Trump GSM Mobile service in Mumbai.

    The MTNL 3G HSDPA card on offer will support data download speeds up to 3.6 Mbps and 7.2 MBPS, the data upload speeds will be up to 384 Kbps. The 3G HSDPA Service is now available for all new and existing Postpaid and Prepaid subscriber of its GSM Mobile service Dolphin along with Trump.

    Presently MTNL 3G HSDPA network of Mumbai is available in Cuffeparade, Fountain, Cooperage, City , Mazagaon, Mandvi, Worli and Dadar areas.

    3G Network is also available from Prabhadevi to Mulund on Eastern Express Highway and Prabhadevi to Airport on Western Express Highway of Mumbai.The network is being upgraded every day by addition of new towers and will cover entire Mumbai in a phased manner.

    The details of upgradtion of network will be conveyed regularly by SMS to customers.The MTNL 3G HSDPA service comes at Rs.149 per month with Free Data Usage of 60 MB.The new Prepaid or Postpaid customers have to buy a new HSDPA Trump/Dolphin SIM starter kit. The MRP of this SIM kit is Rs.300.

    The normal SIM kit life cycle as applicable to Trump customers will be applicable to HSDPA Prepaid SIM kit also. (Grace period 90 days, after expiry of the validity first 30 days balance will be carried forward if recharged, after 60th day the balance will be confiscated if not recharged on 91st day the SIM card will be deleted.)

    The activation of HSDPA facility will be customer controlled and can be activated by recharging the HSDPA coupon of Rs.149. The activation is similar to normal SIM activation which is by making a voice call. The HSDPA validity recharge coupon Rs.149/- is to be recharged every month to keep the customer’s account active.

    The Details of 3G Data Recharges for Prepaid or Data Plans for Postpaid are as follows-

    MTNL is also providing the HSDPA Data card in two variant one 3.2 MBPS HSDPA data card at Rs. 3499/- with 1 GB Free data download and SIM kit on promotional basis for a limited period to customers.3G HSDPA Data card with 7.2 Mbps speed are also available for sale through MTNL CSCs at Rs. 5000/- along with a Free data voucher of Rs.750/-and Rs.300/- SIM kit. The customer can buy 3G HSDPA cards from MTNL CSC at BKC Tel Exch Bldg in Bandra Kurla Complex.The deployment of the 3G Mobile Internet Service by MTNL supports the operator’s leadership in the competitive market of Mumbai.

    visit for detail : http://mumbai.mtnl.net.in/

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    For 299 3 local toppigs= 150*3= 450 Mins

    Reliance s offering 400 free mins for Rs 199. So why to pay Rs 100 more for 50 mins.

    (if pulse is in mins for free mins)

    Just now i checked out my last 6month bill,

    I found i paid roughly 30%more than what i talked.

    Eg.i paid for 130minutes if i make conversation of just 100minute.

    This way u just think how much we will be get benifited with pulse in second.

    SO if reliance giving 400minute u talk only for 310minute,

    in such way calculation goes then for next (450docomo's actual talk-310rcom's actual talk)182minute(considering loss of 30%)

    we have to pay 180*.5/min=Rs 90.

    Thus ur bill comes to be Rs199rent+90. so by calulation i came to conclusion that both plans are equals .

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    Top 20 mobile operators across the globe gobble up 58 % of total connections in Q109

    TelecomTiger Bureau | | 30 Jun 2009

    Globally top 20 mobile operators notch up 58 % of the total mobile connections across the globe in Q109, reveals a new research by Wireless Intelligence.

    Leading the race with highest number of mobile subscribers is the Chinese major, China Mobile accounting for 11.5 % of the global connections with a 479 million subscriber base. Following it is European major, Vodafone with subscriber base of 247 million.

    The race for the third spot is heating up with close finish between Spain's Telefónica and Mexico's América Móvil. India’s Bharti Airtel finds itself ranked at number 8 while Reliance Communications is ranked at number 19.

    Next-generation connections however comprise only 20 % of the total connections across the globe, says the study due to the fact that deployments in some key markets are at an early stage and also highlighting the expansion of the predominately European-based groups into the emerging markets.

    "High penetration in mature markets is slowing the opportunity for organic growth as operators push for multiple connections per customer and secondary data connections," commented Will Croft, an analyst at Wireless Intelligence. "At the other end of the spectrum, the emerging markets still produce lucrative profit-making ventures and phenomenal growth. We are seeing more consolidation than ever before as mergers and acquisitions drive non-organic growth in the mature markets, while expansion into the emerging markets remains a key priority for the larger operator groups."

    The research was conducted spanning 2.4 billion connections in 118 out of the total 223 global markets.

    http://www.telecomtiger.com/Wireless_fulls...mp;section=S216

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    source: rediff.com

    India's wireless subscriber growth is easing sequentially from 15.63 million additions in March 2009 to 11.92 million in April 2009, which has further inched down to 11.58 million subscriber additions in May 2009. Viewed differently, still the wireless net adds are higher than FY 2009 monthly average net adds of 10.89 million.

    Reliance [Get Quote] Communication (Rcom), which has been adding more than 3 million subscribers per month till March 2009, after launching its GSM services in January 2009 when it added 4.95 million net subscribers (GSM + CDMA), could add just 2.387 million subscribers (still a recovery from 2.18 million subscribers in April 2009).

    Among other Bharti Airtel [Get Quote] has sustained its net adds at 2.81 million while that of Vodafone has slipped further with 2.54 million in May 2009 against 2.85 million in Mar'09 and 2.77 million in Apr'09. Subscriber addition by BSNL and MTNL [Get Quote] were also down while Idea Cellular [Get Quote] and Tata Teleservices [Get Quote] could increase its net adds on M-o-M basis. Net adds by Aircel were also consistent and it added 1.1 million subscribers.

    As per TRAI, Total 11.44 million telephone connections (Wireline and Wireless) have been added during May 2009 (11.75 million in April 2009). The total number of telephone connections reaches 452.91 million at the end of May 2009 (441.47 million in April 2009). With this growth, the overall tele-density has reached 38.88 at the end of May 2009 as against 37.94 in April 2009.

    The Indian telecom sector is at a critical point as net adds are approaching peak while the competition is intensifying. The competition is to be intensified further with many new entrants waiting in line to launch their services. The tariffs in the industry are at their historical lows and also lowest in the world while the minutes of usage not increasing at that pace at which the tariffs are coming down and as a result the average revenue per user (ARPUs) for the incumbents is coming down on an ongoing basis.

    Tata Teleservices (TTSL) has announced the launch of its GSM services, Tata DoCoMo by end-June, starting with South India and then in West and North. MTS (earlier Shyam-Sistema) launched its CDMA services in Tamil Nadu and Kerala in April'09 and in Chennai in May'09.

    The DoT in its notification has announced that MNP (Mobile Number Portability) is to be implemented in 9 circles (Metro + Category A) by Sep'09 and in remaining circles by Apr'10. MNP is not expected to have a major impact on wireless pricing, since tariffs are already quite low. However, the new operators may try to attract customers of other operators by offering very low call rates from their existing service providers.

    The incumbents are less likely to indulge themselves in price war because it will ultimately dent their profitability. MNP may tend to induce some churn in high-value prepaid and postpaid customers, who are more likely to churn for reasons of quality (network coverage and Quality of Service, billing and customer care) and brand image, not tariffs. As such, industry's SG&A cost may increase post MNP, because of the pressure to retain high value subscribers. This could lead to incremental pressure on wireless EBITDA margin.

    So far, the Indian telecom operators have driven growth largely through metros and A-circle urban areas, but the challenge is to reach to the rural area. While the growth drivers for mobility are intact in terms of lower tariffs, increasing coverage and rising per capita spend, the low density of rural population spread will make it challenging to expand coverage.

    Also, the Telecom minister A Raja has already indicated that he is expecting the tariffs to come down at significantly lower level and specifically targeted to bring down STD tariffs to 25 paise/minute and local call rates to 10 paise/minute in the span of next two years. Thus in the time to come the price competition will be a serious cause of concern for all the players.

    Telecom Services: Subscriber addition slows down, but remains higher on y-o-y basis

    With many new players waiting to launch their operations and Mobile Number Portability to be implemented shortly, the competition will intensify further.

    India's wireless subscriber growth is easing sequentially from 15.63 million additions in March 2009 to 11.92 million in April 2009, which has further inched down to 11.58 million subscriber additions in May 2009. Viewed differently, still the wireless net adds are higher than FY 2009 monthly average net adds of 10.89 million.

    Reliance Communication (Rcom), which has been adding more than 3 million subscribers per month till March 2009, after launching its GSM services in January 2009 when it added 4.95 million net subscribers (GSM + CDMA), could add just 2.387 million subscribers (still a recovery from 2.18 million subscribers in April 2009).

    Among other Bharti Airtel has sustained its net adds at 2.81 million while that of Vodafone has slipped further with 2.54 million in May 2009 against 2.85 million in Mar'09 and 2.77 million in Apr'09. Subscriber addition by BSNL and MTNL were also down while Idea Cellular and Tata Teleservices could increase its net adds on M-o-M basis. Net adds by Aircel were also consistent and it added 1.1 million subscribers.

    As per TRAI, Total 11.44 million telephone connections (Wireline and Wireless) have been added during May 2009 as compared to 11.75 million connections added in April 2009. The total number of telephone connections reaches 452.91 million at the end of May 2009 (441.47 million in April 2009). With this growth, the overall tele-density has reached 38.88 at the end of May 2009 as against 37.94 in April 2009.

    The total wireless subscribers (GSM, CDMA & WLL(F)) base stood at 415.25 million at the end of May 2009. A total of 11.59 million wireless subscribers have been added during the month of May 2009 as against 11.90 million wireless subscribers added during the month of April 2009. In the wire line segment, the subscriber base has decreased to 37.66 million in the month of May 2009 as against 37.81 million subscribers in April 2009 registering a slight decrease of 0.15 million.

    Total Broadband subscribers base has reached 6.40 million by the end of May 2009 as compared to 6.28 million by the end of April 2009

    Individual player wise performance

    Bharti Airtel regained its position as market leader and added 2.81 million subscribers with 24.3% market share in net adds. Overall the company has almost touched 100 million mark and has 99.55 million subscribers with 24% share in total wireless subscribers.

    The net adds by Vodafone Essar were lower on M-o-M against 2.77 million in Apr'09 to 2.54 million in May'09 and thus exceeded from net adds by Rcom which added 2.39 million in May'09. The total subscriber base of Vodafone Essar stood 74.08 million with 17.8% of overall market share.

    Rcom could add just 2.39 million subscribers in May'09 against 2.18 million in Apr'09. Though the company has increased its net adds on M-o-M basis, the company could not sustain its monthly addition pace as it started in Jan'09 with the launch of GSM operations. The monthly net adds for the company is continuously declining.

    Idea's net adds improved to 1.3 million from 1.15 million in Apr'09 and its net adds share rose to 11.3% of total wireless addition. However, Idea's performance in the two metros was poor, mostly due to strong push by Aircel. Idea continued to lose subscribers in Delhi (30,645 loss in May and 48,465 in April), and its net adds growth in Mumbai declined to 30,376 (against 74,232 in April). Among other recently launched circles, Idea's net adds in Bihar were robust at 199,311 or 23.5% of the net adds in Bihar (excluding Rcom' net addition). Idea added 65,218 subscribers in Orissa (launched in April'09) and 6,066 in Tamil Nadu (launched in May'09).

    Aircel added more than one million net adds for the third month in a row, driven by better performance in recently launched circles, especially in highly competitive metro circles of Delhi & Mumbai. Aircel added 99,244 subscribers (42% of net add share) in Delhi where it had launched services in March '09 and added 79,335 subscribers in Mumbai (42% of net add share) where it launched services in April '09.

    The net adds by BSNL has sharply came down from 1.03 million in Apr'09 to 0.42 million in May'09 against 2.90 million in Mar'09 and 1.03 million in Apr'09. Tata Teleservices has also performed well on M-o-M basis and added 0.76 million subscribers higher from 0.61 million in Apr'09. The total subscriber base reached to 36.49 million with 8.8% market share. Tata Teleservices is ready to launch its GSM services from late June onwards, which may give a boost to its subscriber addition.

    Other recent developments

    Competition to intensify further

    The Indian telecom sector is at a critical point as net adds are approaching peak while the competition is intensifying. The competition is to be intensified further with many new entrants waiting in line to launch their services. The tariffs in the industry are at their historical lows and also lowest in the world while the minutes of usage not increasing at that pace at which the tariffs are coming down and as a result the average revenue per user (ARPUs) for the incumbents is coming down on an ongoing basis.

    With more launches and mobile number portability in waiting, competition will intensify further. Tata Teleservices (TTSL) has announced the launch of its GSM services, Tata DoCoMo by end-June, starting with South India and then in West and North. MTS (earlier Shyam-Sistema) launched its CDMA services in Tamil Nadu and Kerala in April'09 and in Chennai in May'09.

    Mobile Number Portability by Sep'09

    The DoT in its notification has announced that MNP (Mobile Number Portability) is to be implemented in 9 circles (Metro + Category A) by Sep'09 and in remaining circles by Apr'10. MNP is not expected to have a major impact on wireless pricing, since tariffs are already quite low.

    Furthermore, with prepaid comprising over 92% of the total wireless subscriber base and already high prepaid churn (4-5% per month), bulk of the customer base is already insensitive to number change. In any case, a porting fee of Rs50-100 would be a barrier to churn for most prepaid subscribers.

    However, having said that, the new operators may try to attract customers of other operators by offering very low call rates from their existing service providers. The incumbents are less likely to indulge themselves in price war because it will ultimately dent their profitability.

    MNP may tend to induce some churn in high-value prepaid and postpaid customers, who are more likely to churn for reasons of quality (network coverage and Quality of Service, billing and customer care) and brand image, not tariffs. As such, industry's SG&A cost may increase post MNP, because of the pressure to retain high value subscribers. This could lead to incremental pressure on wireless EBITDA margin.

    Bharti Airtel again entered in exclusive talks with MTN

    Bharti Airtel has again dialed for the African telecom giant MTN, after a year when the talks between the two failed last year. The two-telecom giants have entered in to an agreement to discuss the potential transaction exclusively with one another until 31st July 2009. Under the potential scheme of arrangement, Bharti Airtel would acquire a 49% shareholding in MTN and, in turn, MTN and its shareholders would acquire an approximate 36% economic interest in Bharti Airtel (25% by MTN and 11% by MTN shareholders).

    Both the companies are leader in their respective emerging markets. While Bharti Airtel is market leader in India with more than 100 million telecom customers and USD 7.25 billion revenue for FY09, MTN also has more than 100 million telecom subscriber having its operations in 21 countries across Africa and Middle East and revenue of USD 12.06 billion for CY08.

    Outlook

    So far, the Indian telecom operators have driven growth largely through metros and A-circle urban areas, but the challenge is to reach to the rural area. While the growth drivers for mobility are intact in terms of lower tariffs, increasing coverage and raising per capita spend, the low density of rural population spread will make it challenging to expand coverage.

    The cost benefit analysis for rural coverage is not so encouraging as the cost of rural coverage is significantly higher than in urban areas while the usage in rural areas would be lower. Further the subscriber growth from rural areas will likely become irrelevant for financial performance of telcos in the wake of high growth being driven by aggressive promotional plans, which will increase the churn and strain ARPUs.

    Many new players are at final stage of launching their telecom services, which will intensify the already stiffed competition. Further the MNP will put pressure on incumbents to retain customers resulting in pressure on margins. The Telecom minister A Raja has already indicated that he is expecting the tariffs to come down at significantly lower level and specifically targeted to bring down STD tariffs to 25 paise/minute and local call rates to 10 paise/minute in the span of next two years. Thus in the time to come the price competition will be a serious cause of concern for all the players.

    See the tables at the bottom of the page: http://business.rediff.com/special/2009/ju...in-momentum.htm

    also read

    http://www.rimweb.in/forums/index.php?showtopic=19529

  20. Posted · Report reply

    if one takes Plat225RGSM, then it costs just Rs 135 at 30ps/mt.

    Dear Mr. Kumaar Shah,

    Could you please provide me the web link/URL of 'Plat 225RGSM' plan in Reliance GSM website. I just couldn't find it..... :Neutral:

    visit http://www.rimweb.in/forums/index.php?showtopic=18434

    Or

    2.Platinum G 225

    Rental - Rs.225

    Free TT - Rs.100 for Local Mobile Calls (333 Local Mobile Calls Free)

    Free SMS - Rs.100 (333 SMS Free)

    Onnet Local - 30p

    Offnet Mobile - 30p

    Offnet Landline - 80p

    STD - Rs.1.25

  21. Posted · Edited by saket_kewate · Report reply

    toppings are flexible, you can select either 3x local = 450 mts or 1 x local 2 x std = 150 local 100 std or one of each = 150 local 50 std and 500 local sms

    Wow tailor made plan which is very suitable for high end users.

    BTW, Any idea how the free minutes in the toppings will be utilised (as the pulse rate is 1 sec) and can we change the topping combination every month or is it locked once and for all? I think they will be flexible here also.

    I think after the initial euphoria dies down, people will start calculating and then come to know that RCOM is still the cheapest.. For eg.: in Plan 299, you get any 3 toppings - asuming you take all 3 local, you get 450 local minutes which works out to Rs 225 at 50ps/mt and Rs 270 at 60 ps/mt or if one takes Plat225RGSM, then it costs just Rs 135 at 30ps/mt. So after the initial euphoria dies down, people will once again realise the real value for money that RCOM gives.

    The only saving grace for TATA DoCoMo is the per second pulse by which one can benefit maybe only maximum 20 or 30 or maximum 50 minutes in a month under Plan 299 or in prepaid. Nothing more, I hope. My calculations may be wrong, please correct me, if so.

    I didn't understnad ur calculation

    simply divide Rs299 by 450 minute u r getting rate of 66paise/minute+ advantage of secon billing, so this is actual 450 minute

    But in RGSM225PLTM where 225/333 is giving 67paise/minute, higher rate than docomo.+ 333 sms.(which is not good option compare to second billing)

    Really some different thinking from TATA Docomo. It is nice to see something different. Customer can choose as per his/her requirement. But the minimum commitment seems to be high. They should also come with Rs.99 and Rs.199 plans

    Here they are targeting middle and high end consumer, so not looking for subsciber who generate ARPU of just 200/month.

  25. Posted · Report reply

    In search of a USP

    1)On Sardana’s target clearly are middle- and high-level customers who look for add-ons. In fact, Sardana admits that he will not chase mass-market subscribers. “We are aware that the market is already cluttered. But our surveys show that over 70 per cent of the customers are not satisfied with their existing service providers. So there is a large scope for us to get in,” says he.

    2)Thus, Tata Teleservices will focus on those 50 per cent of the existing customers who are in search of a better network, or a market size of around 250 million subscribers by the end of this year when the total subscriber base is expected to swell to 500 million.

    3)“CDMA is a data-friendly technology. But by wooing customers on the value-added data platform through NTT DOCOMO’s Internet services, it is talking to the same customers,” says an executive of a rival GSM operator.

    1)I have one question for sardana "Which are add-on that will attract middle and high end customers???"

    2)Wow target is very good, 250million., without MNP and Strong network it is impossible.

    3) rival is also saying truth Mr sardana don't try to make us fool.

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