Puneet

Go Ahead. Let's start off with 2330. For starters take any information available on the forums, put in your dollors and make a post. We'll see what modifications need to be done and then your post can be used as a template for other handsets.

What we actually need is someone maintaing a concise review of handsets detailing the features on a common format. A single post per handset continously updated by mods/admin. I am bit bust these days, will try to comeout with something to this effect in a fortnight or so. If someone can take it up earlier, please do so. A single topic per manufacturer, with a single post per model should be fine. This way it would not take up too much of pinned space either. Post in the respective sub-fourms and we will pin/close the topics.

You are essentially using R-Connect only. Its only the means of connecting your phone to PC that varies: cable, infrared or bluetooth. And Reliance possibly has no way of determining what you are using.

She is not a MLA but a MP. Ever heard of Rajya Sabha.

That is what I call pervert. There is no need to be techie for this.

They have a very simple reason for that: TRAI had sometime in distant past made billing on per minute basis mandatory. Inefficiancy of the BSNL is another. Despite the long period given to BSNL, it has still not migrated to CDR based billing and all accounts with BSNL are still settled on pulse based billing records.

ADC and inerconnect charges are paid on per minute basis on total accumulated seconds. e.g. A TATA subscriber makes to two calls to RIM of duration 1 min 25 seconds and 35 seconds, TATA will have to pay ADC and interconnect charges for 2 minutes and not for 3 minutes. Hence, TATA is not loosing out by giving a per second pulse.

Good One! Do you have something for the 563 too

Oh no! You left me alone. The lone warrior for 563

Good news! STD rates set to dip 10 pc TIMES NEWS NETWORK[ WEDNESDAY, AUGUST 24, 2005 01:39:49 AM] NEW DELHI: National long distance (NLD) prices are set to drop by at least 10%, as the Department of Telecommunications (DoT) has issued a policy directive to the Telecom Regulatory Authority of India,(Trai) saying the access deficit charge (ADC) should be levied on the basis of a percentage share of annual revenue and not on a per-minute basis. This will lead to a drop in tariffs of over 10% for cell users. The new policy will benefit over 100m users of fixed and mobile telephony. ADC is now levied on a per-minute basis. The new policy will remove the main hurdle in the way of communications minister Dayanidhi Maran’s plan of ‘One India tariff’, which seeks to remove difference between local and STD calls. Under the existing ADC policy, operators have to pay 30 paise as ADC to the government for every minute of NLD call. ADC is a charge imposed on long distance services and passed on to fixed line access providers who are mandated to provide services below cost. ADC is followed all over the world whenever the market is opened up for competition. The policy directive to Trai also says that no ADC should be levied on revenues generated from rural subscribers paying the regulated tariffs. On international calls, the directive says that the ADC on revenues earned from ISD calls should be higher than that on NLD calls. The directive also says that access providers should be allowed to negotiate termination charges for international calls terminating/originating from their networks. This is likely to create confusion as some access providers may ask for rates that are way above the prevalent rates, which may make ILD operations unviable.

I never said samsung phones do not get hot. And don't worry I won't be blinded as I do not use 191 anymore, I have a 563 and my fiancee has a 603. Both with colored big screens

I have used at some point of time or the other: LG 2030 - my first RIM - if you leave apart its hackabaility - it s**ks. Horrible keypad, buggy software, heating problem - oh how mny time I burned my ears during the initaial 2 months, and not to forget the electric shock while charging. Samsung 191 - my fiancee's first RIM - a lot better then 2030, only drawback being the small size of screen. And sadly Slim and Boss suffer from this too. Samsung 563 - ahh... the lovely piece of a mobile phone. Has almost everything. Samsung 603 - good phone, but is a little bulky. LG 2130 - that is a one nice phone from LG, but still can't meet the standards set by Samsung. Keypad still s**ks. LG 5130 - guess was made for the small fingered Koreans. You go to press the navigation key and end up pressing the central key. arrrrgggghhhhhh And I stopped looking at LG phones.

Okay am happy now now that I know Reliance didn't chort changed me b giving a 140 char handset...

But my 563 can send only 140 char sms

RD 2130 is still available. And there are hundreds of them lying around in the various warehouses of Mumbai. If you are from Mumbai, send me a PM and I'll tell you a place to buy 2130 from. Cost is around Rs 3200, a frined bought it last week.

Currently, ADC is 30p for all distance slabs. The only variable component as of now is the Transit Charges paybale to NLD operator. Now the ball is in the TRAI's court and hope it would not disaapont us all @ Ramchi: Monopolies of all kinds are bad for the market. Consider, Reliance wipes out all competition by its unlimited STD and then hikes its rates at its own whims and fancy . So we do need competition, and with that I mean real competition in the market. Not something that existed in the mobile market before the entry of the fourth operator and Reliance.

Agree with you bhutes. But as I said, there have been 2 news releases in the past 2 days, one about ADC and the other about non-discriminatory tariffs. And if you club the two together, there might be some difficulties in continuing with the unlimited on-net pack without offering the same for off-net. As the termination charges are still on "per-call (total accumulated seconds)" basis. And that is why I said, "I hope I will be proved wrong", as unlimited RIM-2-RIM STD will be a dream come true.

I am waiting to lay my hands on the actual communication from DoT to TRAI to delve on it further. But what I get from the news is that DoT has asked TRAI to change ADC from per call basis to revenue share basis. Now, it all depends on the % TRAI fixes as the revenue share for ADC. And I do not see unlimited STD calls still (Hope I am proved wrong). We get unlimited calls from RIP because Reliance gets to retain the ADC with itself. Also, if we club this with yesterdays news release where DoT has raised objection on preferntial tariffs for on-net calls, unlimited STD calls are still a while away.

Welll! You can manage to forget it, try out your advice and then let us know. And anyway gr8 people do try out first what they preach

While it was Mukesh at the helm of affairs, RIm could be trusted to find a way out. But who knows how does the junior deals with the situtation. Keep your fingers crossed ashok

I know that curiosity kills the cat but what are the two blue smudges hiding just after GPRS Rental and CLIP @ 25?

Believe our politicians to take 2 steps back for a step forward.

All Reliance handsets are pre-activated for data services (read R-Connect). And a phone purchased from anywhere is India will work for voice as well as R-Connect wherever signal from Reliance is available. You can go ahead and purchase the handset from the nearby city, and use it for r-connect purposes in your town. Presence of a web-world is not needed for any kind of connectivity, only thing that you require is the Reliance Signal Get a phone and enjoi !!!

For that matter none of the broadband companies offer mobility, and sure mobility will demand premium. Though price reduction will sure make me happy too

I think that is an issue with Invision Power board. We have an intranet forum for sharing running on Invision and I have observed this issue there too. Also, if you leave the forum page open on one computer and then surf from another all day long "Mark all forums as read" would not work properly.