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Dhiren, It is possible and reliance wanted to do that but when they are planning to do that i don't know. In one news story I read that RIL's mumbai head (not sure which dept.) told to reporter that "They are planning to conversion betn postpaid to prepaid." well i lost the track of that story. Dhiren same situ is mine if i get some bucks of my N191 then i will sure upgrade that. Now, reliance is pushing their Motorola phones. ones they archive goal ( they estimated 10,00,000 Motorola inst. will sold because they ordered that much..). They come with Postpaid --> Prepaid thing. There is nothing wrong to purchase phones from reliance but What about Phone upgrades.

Cell scam entangles Reliance too ABHAY VAIDYA AND NEIL PATEL TIMES NEWS NETWORK[ FRIDAY, FEBRUARY 20, 2004 03:20:15 AM ] PUNE: BSNL's CellOne is not the only one being bled by scamsters. India's numero uno CDMA player, Reliance Infocomm, too, has been hit by the bogus connection-based conferencecalling scam, and has already lost crores of rupees on international calls, mainly between Gulf countries and India. Investigations by a Times team revealed that names and addresses on at least four Reliance Infocomm connections were either false or forged. More shockingly, at least two untraceable Reliance Infocomm subscribers have left their footprints on the bills of one untraceable BSNL defaulter, whose unpaid dues of STD/ISD calls crossed a whopping Rs 10 lakh in October 2003. While names and addresses on at least two Reliance bills were found to be fictitious, in another case, Deepali Chavan, a Pune resident, got a bill for Rs 4,294.71 without having applied for a Reliance mobile. "Within two days of getting this bill in November 2003, I filed a complaint with the Market Yard police chowky. I was told by the police that they have received other such complaints relating to Reliance Infocomm," Chavan told TNN. "I lost my driving licence a year back and I think that was used by someone to get a connection in my name and address. I asked a Reliance Web World outlet to show me the documents that were used to secure the connection but they refused," she said. The fact that subscription-based fraud in which false or forged documents were used to obtain Reliance connections raises questions over the firm's address verification system. Reacting to TNN's expose on the scam ('International Call scam bleeds BSNL', TOI, February 18, 2004 ), Reliance Infocomm's business head, Maharashtra and Goa , Dinesh Gulati said on Wednesday: "We have a very stringent verification system. Our address-verification agency visits customers' home and checks if he/she has actually applied for a handset. The handset and service is activated only after thorough credit verification." On Thursday, a Times team tried to get in touch with Eliyas A. Shaikh, whose address on a pending Reliance bill (Rs 41,626.41, dated 24.1.04) was given as "416 Mangalwar Peth, Kale Wada, Pune, Maharashtra- 411016." A visit to this address, however, drew a blank with neighbours stating that no one by that name lived there. According to investigations, a similar identity, but under a different address, was used in a BSNL connection where unpaid bills amounted to over Rs 10 lakh in October 2003. In the case of another Reliance Infocomm connection, where unpaid dues amounted to Rs 57,349.83 as of January 20, 2004 , the name and address did not match with the Nana Peth location that was mentioned on the bill. The fourth case was that of Sudhakar Dhamdhere, who received a Reliance bill for Rs 5,026.60 dated November 20, 2003 . Dhamdhere, in a letter dated November 22, 2003 , to Reliance Infocomm, said that the bill under the name "Sudhakar S Dhamdheere" was a case of "misuse of address and name" and should be cancelled forthwith. Dhamdhere not only urged Reliance to terminate the mobile connection but also filed a police case after checking the identity of the person involved.

Two other news on this issue. Reliance reacts to cell scam TIMES NEWS NETWORK[ FRIDAY, FEBRUARY 20, 2004 04:04:01 AM ] PUNE: Dinesh Gulati, business head (Maharashtra and Goa), Reliance Infocomm, was, on Thursday evening, provided all the relevant details, including the names, telephone numbers and bills that The Times of India sought to highlight in its report. Gulati said that the cases brought to the company’s notice by TNN were “complicated” and a detailed response would be given on Friday. However, he said that in two cases of pending bills amounting to Rs 41,626.61 and Rs 57,349.83, the parties were once debarred in October 2003 and unbarred when they gave cheques. They were again debarred in January 2004 when the cheques bounced. Speaking about cases where those who never booked Reliance connections received bills, S. Sawant, a corporate communications executive, said that the company has no direct control when they have sub-subagents, who are not authorised agents, handling the end-customer. All these cases could have come into the system in the May-June period when the company did not have its fraud management systems in place, added Gulati. However, according to Sawant, Reliance Infocomm had problems till December 2003 as 1 lakh new customers were being added daily under the ‘Monsoon Hungama’ scheme, the details of which could not be entered into the system immediately, creating a huge backlog, which was cleared only by November-end. __________________________________________ Other cellular cos watch out for fraudsters ABHAY VAIDYA AND RAHUL CHANDAWARKAR TIMES NEWS NETWORK[ THURSDAY, FEBRUARY 19, 2004 02:11:15 AM ] PUNE: The subscription-based scam that has robbed public sector telecom giant BSNL of crores of rupees, seems to have penetrated at least one more telecom network. Fradulently using the identity of a Pune resident, a mobile connection of that telecom network was obtained for making illegal STD, ISD calls. The connection was snapped late last year after the bill touched Rs 4.5 lakh and “private detectives were sent to investigate the scam,” reliable sources told TNN. Specifically in the case of the BSNL fraud, which was brought to light by TOI (‘International call scam bleeds BSNL’, February 18), an unpaid bill of over Rs 15 lakh had the telephone number of another network appearing repeatedly. That bill for, just one month, runs into 100 pages and more! TNN, therefore, spoke to the heads of various telecom networks to find out what fraud management bills they had in place Krishna Angara, executive vice-president (business operations), BPL Mobile Ltd: In our system, no customer gets his or her line activated unless credit verification is done. If you submit a copy of your ration card, people from our independent credit-verification agency will visit your place of residence. On an average, we reject 10-15 per cent of applicants for failing to meet our credit-verification standards. We ask them to opt for a pre-paid card. In the case of STD/ISD connections,we demand a deposit. Once 80 per cent of the credit limit is reached, a person from our call centre will immediately call you and politely request for the payment of billed calls to be made. If the payment is not made, outgoing calls will be blocked. We don’t offer the call-conferencing facility, unless we are sure of who is vouching for this facility. I would say that the entire GSM Club (telecom companies using the GSM technology) would be running a delinquent rate of one to two per cent. BPL, Airtel and Orange in Mumbai share information on defaulting customers and we will not take a customer, if he has been thrown out of any of the networks. Vijay Grover, chief operating officer ( Maharashtra and Goa circle), Idea Cellular We did have some subscription-based frauds when we launched the business some six-seven years ago. Two years ago, we installed the Subex fraud management system, which is one of the best telecom fraud management systems in the world. We have good agencies, which visit the homes of our potential subscribers and undertake credit verification. STD/ISD connections should never be given without credit verification. We have a credit limit for our STD/ISD facility and our system issues an alert and a daily list of subscribers,who have crossed their credit limit. Effective co-ordination between all telecom companies to prevent fraud is still not in place. Sharad Gupta, general manager (customer service delivery), Maharashtra and Goa , Airtel Our advanced fraud management system is called the ‘Ranger’. The software prevents past defaulters from re-entry. In addition to this, our fraud management team also carries out a manual check. The Ranger system is also able to trace the electronic identity of the customer’s cellphone instrument. For first-time customers, valued-added services like STD/ISD conferencing are not offered. Such customers are also offered a low credit limit.We also have a special creditlimit setting software. This picks up the need for telephony and the customer’s capacity to pay. The system is also able to automatically generate an intimation for interim payment, the moment the customer crosses 80 per cent of his limit. The customer has to make the payment within 48 hours, failing which, outgoing calls are blocked. Dinesh Gulati, business head ( Maharashtra and Goa ), Reliance Infocomm Limited. We have a very stringent verification system. Our address - verification agency visits the customer’s home and checks if he/she has actually applied for the handset. The handset and service is activated only after thorough credit verification. Later, our in-house tele-calling agency makes a ‘welcome’ call within 48 hours of the service being offered. This is a handholding exercise, where features of the service and the tariff are explained to the customer. First-time customers are not offered ISD facilities. If the agency suspects the customer during their ‘welcome’ call, a second address-verification is carried out. The welcome call is followed by the bill explanation call, where the customer’s inclination to pay is ascertained. In addition to this process, we have a very advanced fraud management system called the ADC. Whenever a customer crosses 80 per cent of his limit, an interim bill is generated and an SMS is sent to the customer. In addition to the ADC system, we have the ‘Data Dupe’ software, which checks the history of every customer.

They are targeted over 10 million in first year of commercial launch. And i checked ringtons after 1.5 moths found only couple of ringtones in effects section.. but i will check whole ringtone/wallpaper section before it becomes paid. who know how much they will charge afterwards.

Jigar, Back light Problem in R-World is nothing with settings. It is with java program of R-world. U r fast in type but most people not.. so they have to give settings that suits all. ya u can tell they can give option for that too.. but phone have limited memory so they have to choose most priority option.. use T9 as much as possible that will solve your "Hi" like problems.

My phone is upgraded only ones and it shows following versions. Is it need software upgrade? what is the current version for samsung. PRL: 1 S: N191.WB27 H: N191.57

yes, samsung has very odd delivery ack but i like that.. because they disapper on only one key press. What i don't like is it's display but can't anything other then change the handset. :'(

as far as "to buy phones from Reliance" issue my personal view is there nothing to loose if we buy phone form reliance. their prices are very much comparable with open market of GSM. only loose part is we have not more choices for handset and second hand phone market is not developed. so changing the handset is not easy.

Sad news for u, after very much wasting my time on that thing i didn't find any PC sync soft for N191.. yet

well i use R-connect form begining and always get 14 to 15 kbps.. speed and this is very good compared to any Dial-up service and at the dial-up rates this speed is very good.(5 Time faster to dial-up). if u have opened yahoo,msn messangers etc. then they automatically demand connection so it will connect automatically. and if u don't want that then disconnect. it so simple.

*366 is for fixed wireless phone(FWP) and FWT users.

When GSM phone holder send sms to RIM then he must type entire sms in only english. if any char is of other lang (like in most nokia handset if u press button more then other lang char starting to type.) then u get that sms as blank. so tell your friends that they only send u pure english char.. For your other problem it is good if u personaly go to LG service station or web world. for handset problem *333 is not much usefull.

Above problem may be nokia specific and i don't have nokia instrument.. here is guideline for access POP3 account. To access pop3 mail.. in webmail u have to provide. your e-mail ID : you@something.net your password : ********* pop server address : pop.something.net ( if your e-mail site is www.sample.com then pop server in most case is pop.sample.com but better check your provider's site. ...in faq/help) port number : 110 (this port number is correct in 99.9 case but if not works then check your providers site) And , Today most free web based e-mail providers not give POP access for free like yahoo.com and hotmail.com. Hotmail and MSN gives IMAP access not POP3. R-World gives pre-installed settings for VSNL , Dishnet , powersurfer and Satyam. so if u have any of that ID then u r lucky.

RIM adds 1 lakh subscribers Our Corporate Bureau in Mumbai Published : February 18, 2004, Business Standard Reliance Infocomm has cornered over one lakh subscriber in the pre-paid segment within a few days of the launch. The company entered the pre-paid market on February 9 with a range of handsets bundled with rechargable vouchers in various denominations. Speaking on the sidelines of the roadshows for IPCL IPO, Mukesh Ambani, chairman and managing director of Reliance Industries (RIL) said, “we have in excess of one lakh prepaid customers so far. We have far exceeded our expectations. We haven’t even launched ads in television.” Ambani pointed out that “We have been consistent in our figures of getting subscriber and we have a market share between 20-30 per cent.” He was of the opinion that the market is big enough to have at least 4-5 operators and “every operator can have a market share in the range between 20-25 per cent”. On the overall telecom market, Ambani said that India would see additions of at least 2-3 million a month . However, on the subscriber base in Reliance Infocomm he reiterated that they continue to hold a market share of 20-30 per cent. Reliance Infocomm entered the pre-paid segment where its customer get a free connection and recharge vouchers worth Rs 3240 valid for six months with an additional six month grace period. During this grace period the subscriber will be able to receive incoming calls and SMS without recharging the account

Flag Telecom Announces Major New Middle East Loop Terabit/S Submarine Cable System With Links To Egypt And Hong Kong Via India · First major project after amalgamation with Reliance · FALCON Project unlocks broadband opportunity · Strengthens FLAG's market leadership position HIGHLIGHTS Satisfying regional demand with first self-healing submarine loop network in the Gulf region with links to Egypt, India and Hong Kong 15,000 km terabit/s submarine system to be in service by early 2005 Providing high-capacity connectivity into and out of India Reliance Infocomm to provide landing stations on east and west coasts of India and loop connectivity across terrestrial network linking all major cities Seamless integration with FLAG's global network to provide worldwide diversity and industry-leading resilience DAKC (Dhirubhai Ambani Knowledge City), Navi Mumbai February 17, 2004 FLAG Telecom, the wholly owned subsidiary of Reliance Infocomm and a leading provider of international wholesale network transport and communications services, today announced FALCON, a new high-capacity resilient loop cable system providing multiple landings throughout the Gulf region, with submarine links stretching to Egypt in the west and to Hong Kong in the east. Across India the FALCON system will interconnect seamlessly with Reliance's 80,000 km high-speed domestic infrastructure, allowing customers to access major cities connected along the network. Commenting at today's announcement, Patrick Gallagher, CEO, FLAG Telecom, said: "FALCON will dramatically change the global communications infrastructure balance. We have recognised for some time that the exploding market demand from major growth economies could not be served by the bandwidth connectivity serving the Middle East and Asia today. Across India, FALCON will also provide access to all major cities, offering customers direct connectivity into and across one of the world's largest growth economies from any metropolitan centre connected to the FLAG global network, and all at the level of quality and reliability for which FLAG is renowned. "Our announcement today follows months of project development work and we are now in final negotiations with a shortlist of suppliers. All initial engineering work has been completed and preparations for the marine survey are well under way. With a forecast initial service date of within 12 months, this is an extremely challenging project, but we believe it is essential to support the growth economies of the Middle East, India and China." Mukesh Ambani, Chairman and Managing Director of Reliance Industries Ltd., said: "Since our foundation 40 years ago, we have always sought to harness the latest technology to provide world-beating services for our customers. FLAG's FALCON project is such an initiative, and underlines the growing optimism in today's telecommunications marketplace. Today's announcement provides the backbone to deliver advanced broadband services to the Middle East, India and China, which have been traditionally underserved with high-capacity broadband connectivity. FALCON is the culmination of discussions with valued customers and leading global operators and is designed to unlock the broadband opportunity." FALCON will include the Gulf region's first self-healing submarine network ring providing all countries connected to the high capacity cable with extremely reliable, high quality connectivity. Countries that have the potential to directly access this resilient connectivity include Oman, Bahrain, Kuwait, Iran, Qatar and Iraq. All of these countries have expressed interest in joining FALCON and most are in advanced discussions with FLAG Telecom regarding their participation. Branching units can be added along the entire FALCON cable route to allow more countries in the region to connect to the system as their communications needs continue to expand. Spokespersons from major operators commenting on the FALCON project, said: OmanTel: "Oman is geographically ideally located at the heart of the FALCON route, providing important communication links from the world's business centres to India and Asia to the east and to Egypt in the west. We believe in the FALCON project and that it will meet the burgeoning broadband demand from the fast growing Gulf and wider Middle East region." Batelco: "FALCON will be the first cable system to bring fully protected connectivity to the Gulf and will allow Bahrain to diversify its current capacity arrangements. FALCON will also have many times more capacity than the existing regional links and will enable Batelco to confidently provide new services to customers, at faster speeds and more cost-effectively than before." Telecom Egypt: "As a key regional provider of advanced services, Telecom Egypt has committed to participate in the FALCON project. Telecom Egypt has been a natural hub for many international cable crossings. FALCON allows us to both consolidate our strategic position and provides a catalyst for supporting the introduction of broadband, ADSL and other such initiatives throughout Egypt." Ministry of Communications, Kuwait: "With the geographic position of Kuwait at the head of the Gulf, FALCON will enable us to address several strategic development opportunities and offer resilient connectivity to support advanced broadband applications throughout the area." The western link of the FALCON system will land at Telecom Egypt's Landing Station at Suez, where the cable will integrate with FLAG's global network. FALCON will then follow a route through the Red Sea along the East African coast and across the top of the Arabian Sea before landing in Oman. Travelling from Oman along its easterly link, FALCON will cross the Arabian Sea to a new Reliance-owned landing station at Mumbai, India. At this point FALCON will interconnect seamlessly to Reliance's pan-India 80,000 km high-speed backbone network linking approx 1100 cities and towns across the length and breadth of the country. At Chennai, on the East coast of India where a second Reliance landing station is being built, FALCON will again become a submarine system, linking India to Hong Kong, where the cable will once again integrate with FLAG's global network. FALCON will be funded by FLAG, Reliance and commitments from participating operators. FLAG's cable network already spans the globe and the company has an acknowledged reputation for a centralised end to end network management underpinned by exceptional quality and service support. FLAG offers customers east and west routing, meaning traffic can be switched at any time to avoid a cable cut or natural disaster. FALCON will also provide additional resilience across the major route from Egypt to Hong Kong and particularly around the Middle East. About FLAG Telecom FLAG Telecom, a member company of the Reliance Group, has an established customer base of more than 180 leading operators, including all of the top ten international carriers. FLAG owns and manages an extensive optical fibre network spanning four continents and connecting key business markets in Asia, Europe, the Middle East and the USA. FLAG also owns and operates a low latency global MPLS based IP network, which connects most of the world's principal international Internet exchanges. FLAG offers a focused range of global products, including global bandwidth, IP, Internet, Ethernet and Co-location services. In the first international acquisition by the Group, FLAG Telecom became a Reliance Group company on 12 January 2004. Recent news releases and further information are on FLAG Telecom's website at: www.flagtelecom.com.

Really Good Finding, But as far installing R-connect on Redhat8.0+ linux.. there is no need to do all this because reliance is giving setup for Linux and that works on my PC(well, on USB Cable)... just go to R-connect on Linux

My Grandfather want to see all video of Shivratri but on Samsung n191. he can't figure out what's on display. Because N191 has worstest display.

Yes , I got a problem ones and they upgraded my software in just 10 mins and give phone back in 10 min. but that time reliance only have 10 lacs cutomers.

Well, I hope that they will keep r-world free upto june 2004..

Yes then u r looking for PC Sync software. On the samsung site they offer only manual for N191. I doesn't find any third party software for N191 so come to conclusion that N191 doesn't capable to support N191. i am also in search for same if find something then surely post here.

This section is for them who want to do somthing else with their RIM phone which is not described in any manual etc. So, Before you apply any hack to your phone, please note That "you r doin it at your own risk" "Considering the real-time nature of this forum, it is impossible for us to review messages or confirm the validity of information posted. We do not vouch for or warrant the accuracy, completeness or usefulness of any message, and are not responsible for the contents of any message." Also There Might Be The Requirement Of Using Various Propritery Software Which Are To Be Bought. So Please Do Not Post Cracks In This Forum

Where u read this i am also interested to read that?

Just seen the TV Ad, nice looks but relianceinfo.com doen't listed it yet.

thanx gawab.com works just fine

Yes I am subscriber of couple of mailing-list. so i got about 50 mails everyday . I have free POP3 excess so it is easy to recive but sending reply for any mail easy. if reliance start service like that it's good and it is ok if they want some bucks for service. Now Tata's Total Internet Package provide this but i don't want to subscribe for Dial-up service.