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manish for the poorest this solar charging feature is it affordable!some time back philips has developed smokeless choolahs,unfortunately those choolahs are in smokes!(http://www.business-standard.com/india/news/philips-to-launch-productsrural-focus/278782/).

^^ dear ramesh the processing power needs for a calculator and a mobile phone are not comparable .just imagine wht goes on in a mobile compared to calculator.you will understand

the price is too high for hte fetures it offers,not withstanding the solar charging facility.nevrtheless a step in the right direction of using solar energy in this power starved country

interview with the much loved anil sardana of TTSL http://www.business-standard.com/india/new...cdma%5C/360734/ With over six players offering very competitive services, how do you plan to differentiate your services? We will have very sharply segmented offerings, which will cater to consumers’ individual needs. So, there will be differentiated offerings in terms of content and value-added services. Also, we will provide our customers with better quality of service as compared with other players in the market. The tariffs will be competitive, but that will be decided once we launch our services. With a host of recent launches in GSM, what is your branding strategy? What part of the consumer segment are you targeting? We have chosen Tata DoCoMo as our GSM brand. We like the appeal of the DoCoMo brand. It basically means “Do Communication More”, and it reaches out to a large audience. With our CDMA offering, we are already catering to the mass market consumers. With GSM services, we are eyeing the mid and higher end of the spectrum. You have chosen the DoCoMo brand for your GSM services. Does that limit the involvement of NTT DoCoMo to GSM? Not at all. They are shareholders and investors in the company. They will have a say in the entire business, including our CDMA services. We just like the appeal of the brand DoCoMo. So, it is not so much to do with the Japanese company. Even our brand logo is different. Can you map your roll-out plans for 2G as well as 3G services? We will first roll out our 2G services in the southern region by next month and then the western and northern regions subsequently. We have spectrum in 18 circles in which we expect to roll out services by the next six months. We haven’t got spectrum in North East, Assam, Jammu & Kashmir and Delhi, and it will be sad if we do not get spectrum in these circles in six months for our pan-India roll-out. As for 3G, it is too premature to comment. When there is clarity on the issue, we will be able to take our decisions. How much investment have you earmarked for your GSM roll-out and how much has already been utilised? We have committed $2 billion for our GSM roll-out, which has been done in the form of Letters of Credit and not in terms of physical outflow of money in one go. Therefore, it is hard to put a number to how much has been spent already. But this $2 billion is till the end of the current financial year after which we will evaluate the situation. What is the status of your merger with Quippo Telecom Infrastructure Ltd? Have you received an approval from the Foreign Investment Promotion Board (FIPB)? With the new foreign direct investment (FDI) norms prescribed by Press Notes 2 and 3, we do not need to get FIPB’s approval for our deal with Quippo. So, about a week back, we withdrew our application. It should take another three weeks to take a legal view and complete all formalities internally. Once those are complete, we will get the money from them as well.

working for me too

^while both of u are right that reliance cannot be squarely blamed ,at the same time there is a point in saket's argument.. 16+45 is the fixed cost and variable cost of 1 re more per every call in the reliance offer

in uk where blyk is offring this service , gives around only 50-70 mins free per month..moreover the subscription to their services is based on invitation

good info saket..any info on bsnl full fledged launch of cdma

other than informed and learned users ,for all others irrespective of the branding, the name will be tata gsm

^ for cdma advts ,reliance was mentioning the same now a days...but there is such identification here for GSM ... how does reliance expects people to know abt gsm service..just doubtfull

brilliant ! bhargava

^^ kidnap can delay the cherished launch!

while this is a grt idea from the consumer's point ,which operator wants to share the revenues. .any such system working in matured markets?

@shashank the locked handsets one normally gets in cdma probably be the biggest hurdle in cdma.

it is interesting to note that tata claims to have a congestion free network and now argue lack of spectrum to be the reaon for moving to gsm. Sistema/MTS is entering cdma clears one about the truth of these statements.moreover if spectrum is not going to be enough to run cdma how Tata will support Photon?

@ramesh i was just trying to let you know the facts...nothing personal Raja can achieve his targets provided he allows telephony from PC using internet.but ironically DOT(his ministry) is against allowing the same. this is further a little time consuming affair compared to rolling of networks by the new licensees

wish ur dream turns into a reality

and in case if anybody is still hopefull of raja's ability ,here is an excellent analysis about his deeds http://www.business-standard.com/india/new...-baraat/359659/ Even Prime Minister Manmohan Singh’s well-wishers are convinced that his Achilles’ heel will be the DMK and its ministers like Raja — most of the allegations of favouritism in the UPA’s last tenure pertained to Raja’s ministry. Given the PM’s powerlessness, he caved in quickly after his initial refusal to give telecom to Raja, most are convinced Raja-II will bring more shame to the government. Here’s a prediction: after a few months, the same industry leaders who went to court against Raja-I will be singing his praises, talking of how pragmatic he is, how visionary, and so on. This will have less to do with the minister’s style of functioning than it does with the chips he holds. Raja-I gave away scarce spectrum to a handful of favoured firms at a fraction of the market price instead of auctioning this to the highest bidder — this lost the government about $10bn, but caused a lot more damage. He gave the spectrum-cum-licences to firms who, by and large, didn’t have a hope in hell of being able to utilise it since they didn’t have the couple of billion dollars required for a half-decent network and, in any case, they couldn’t possibly compete with the huge scale advantages that companies like Bharti Airtel have. So while the favoured few can’t utilise their spectrum, firms like Bharti Airtel and Vodafone are starved of spectrum. Logically, firms like Bharti/Vodafone should have bought out the favoured few and got their spectrum for a huge premium. But in order to prove he’d given out the licences only to be able to get more competition in, Raja put in place M&A norms which prevented a sale for at least three years. Raja-II will now change the M&A norms. This will allow Bharti/Vodafone to buy, for the sake of argument, Swan/Loop Telecom — Bharti/Vodafone will get their spectrum, Swan/Loop their return on investment, and everyone will be happy. Bharti/Vodafone would have had to pay money anyway, the only difference is that instead of paying the money to the government in an auction, they will pay it to Swan/Loop. (And who cares about the exchequer — even the BJP which has been so obsessed with corruption right from the time of Bofors, didn’t think this was worth getting agitated about.) How Raja-II will do this is also interesting. He will probably make use of the wholly gratuitous line in a recent TDSAT judgement (the one that absolved Raja-I of the charges against him) saying the government needed to rework the M&A norms keeping in mind the industry’s need for spectrum. Since the man who wrote this judgement, JS Sarma, has been appointed the head of the Telecom Regulatory Authority of India, Raja-II can safely make a reference asking for the TRAI’s views on the matter! If Raja-II allows the 3G auction to happen before this, this will reduce some of Bharti/Vodafone’s desperation for Swan/Loop’s spectrum. This will then lower the price Bharti/Vodafone will have to pay to Swan/Loop; it will make the older GSM mobile phone firms sing Raja-II’s praise louder — both sets of firms will compete to grab the minister’s mind.Watch this space. The other big action area is the new spectrum report prepared by Raja-I’s ministry while he was in charge. The report suggests that all future spectrum be auctioned, that existing firms like Bharti/Vodafone who’ve got ‘extra’ spectrum (beyond the 6.2MHz guaranteed in their licence) be asked to pay for it. Raja-II now has to decide whether to accept the report and, if he does, whether to implement all of its recommendations and, if so, by when. If he decides that the ‘extra’ spectrum is a fait accompli and needn’t be paid for, he’ll be praised by the older mobile phone players. If he decides his favoured few will get free additional spectrum from the 4.4 MHz they have to 6.2 MHz, and it is only after this that the auction principle will come into force, this will win him praise from them. That is, there’s a lot of opportunity for both lots of firms to praise Raja. When there are 10 million new mobile phone subscriptions to be had each month, few are going to spend too much time criticising Raja — the reason why it happened to Raja-I was that he blocked the older players’ ability to get spectrum. Live and let live. Raja ki aayegi baraat/Rangeeli hogi raat/Magan mein naachoongee — and unlike Nargis in Aah, no one’s going to be crying. Or maybe the exchequer will shed a tear or two. Maybe.

@ramesh this is what raja did to bsnl "The minister cut the BSNL tender size, then he wanted price reductions after the bids were in and delayed the process by months, then he floated another tender" even after all of this if do you believe in statements made by raja..

the practical difficulties to raja's targets http://www.business-standard.com/india/new...nt-note/359633/

http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/News-b...how/4595463.cms The Telecom Commission, the highest decision making body of the communications ministry, on Thursday cleared the proposal to allow mobile virtual network operators (MVNOs) to launch operations in India. MVNOs offer mobile services without owning cellular networks or airwaves (spectrum) on which telecom signals travel. Their business model involves buying airtime from existing operators that own telecom infrastructure and selling it to consumers under their own brand. Companies, such as the UK-based Virgin Mobile, British Telecom and Japan’s KDDI, have based their telecom strategy on MVNO model. Currently, there are over 300 MVNOs operating globally. The entry of MVNOs is set to further increase competition in the world’s fastest growing mobile market. Following the commission’s approval, the government will soon issue a formal notification along with guidelines for MVNOs to operate in India. In August 2008, Trai asked the government to permit MVNOs and said that entry of such players would be a ‘natural progression towards enhancing free market principles and contributing to the efficient use of existing telecommunication infrastructure’. So far, the communications ministry had been unable to release the guidelines for MNVOs, as the department of telecom (DoT) and regulator Trai had not found consensus on key issues. The commission, while clearing the proposal, has said MVNOs cannot go for multiple parenting in India. This means, an MVNO can tie-up with only an operator in an area for their services. On the other hand, an existing operator can tie-up with any number of MVNOs. The commission also said that MVNOs would be given licences for a 20-year period. DoT executives had earlier told ET that several MVNOs from across the world had shown interest in launching operations in India. The auctions of 3G spectrum and the launch of these high-end services is expected to serve as a catalyst and attract virtual operators to India, as many players that operate in this space globally specialise in high-end value-added services. Many of the new telecom companies, who were granted telecom licences last year, may partner with MVNOs, as it would bring them additional revenues and help contribute towards the creation of sizeable capital value especially in a sector where margins are razor-thin and further reduction of tariffs is not feasible.

raja's track record doesnt inspire us.his actions were always creating further mess.his second tenure is the price we indians indians are paying for the democracy we enjoy.Atleast maran would have been better

http://www.indiainfoline.com/news/innernew...03017&lmn=1 The CDMA Development Group has announced that there are now more than 100 mn CDMA subscribers in India, making it the world’s second-largest CDMA market. Reliance Communications and Tata Teleservices are placed among the top five CDMA operators globally, ranking second and fourth, respectively. The rapid growth of CDMA users in India is attributed to a wide selection of affordable devices – ranging from entry level handsets to feature-rich smartphones – and the introduction of CDMA2000 voice and data services into urban and rural areas, helping to reshape the communications culture of India. Since CDMA mobile services were introduced in December 2002, the cellular landscape in India changed rapidly. Efforts led by CDMA operators, device manufacturers, technology enablers and the CDG introduced an array of entry-level handsets to the market while tariffs dropped by more than 40%. As a result, CDMA reached 50 mn subscribers in India twice as fast as any competing cellular technology, and at the same time greatly increased voice telephony and wireless Internet connectivity in India. Now, recently-introduced CDMA mobile broadband solutions are poised to have a similar significant impact on increasing broadband penetration in the country. “The CDG is encouraged by the continued CDMA subscriber growth in India, and we are proud to have worked with operators and manufacturers to bring wireless voice and data services to over 100 million Indians,” said Perry LaForge, executive director of the CDG. In March 2009, CDMA operators Reliance and Tata both launched high-speed mobile broadband services, delivering average download speeds of 600-1400 kbps with bursts up to 3.1 Mbps and average upload speeds of 500-800 kbps with bursts up to 1.8 Mbps. Reliance’s Netconnect Broadband Plus wireless broadband service is offered nationwide in 35 major cities, 20,000 towns and 450,000 villages, covering 80 percent of the potential laptop and desktop broadband users in India. “Reliance has been a pioneer and the largest operator of a CDMA platform in India’s wireless sector. We have launched and grown new segments in the wireless sector leveraging the unique strengths of CDMA technology, such as Unlimited and Bucket plans in voice usage, Wireless Broadband and anchored applications of PCO, ATM and FWP. We remain committed to further grow and serve our ever-increasing CDMA customer base through innovative applications, superior network quality and service and attractive value-propositions,” said S.P. Shukla, President Wireless of Reliance Communications. Concurrently, Tata Indicom is offering its Photon Plus services in several large markets including Bangalore, Calcutta, Chennai, Delhi, Hyderabad and Mumbai, accessible via USB modems as well as routers. “It has always been our mission to provide quality telecom services to subscribers in India and it is a matter of pride that we have played a role in this 100 million CDMA subscriber achievement. CDMA is a technology that allows a rich telecom experience, especially on the data side, and we are confident that in the years to come that experience will only get better, especially as 3G arrives and we are able to unleash the full potential of applications and services,” said Mr. Anil Sardana, Managing Director of Tata Teleservices Limited. Dr. Mukund Rajan, Managing Director, Tata Teleservices (Maharashtra) Limited, said, “There were a number of doomsday prophets who questioned the logic behind the introduction of CDMA in India. Today, 100 mn satisfied CDMA subscribers, on networks across India that boast the best voice quality and excellent data throughput, vindicate our decision to launch CDMA services in India. The dramatic growth of CDMA in India, in the short span of 6 years, has led the surge in wireless subscriber additions in India and the huge jump in teledensity across the country. Tata Teleservices (Maharashtra) Limited (TTML), with over 7 million CDMA subscribers and 14% market share in the Mumbai-Maharashtra geography that contributes the most to India’s GDP, is proud to have played its role in establishing CDMA as a compelling choice for customers.” “Qualcomm congratulates the CDMA ecosystem on this remarkable journey to 100 million subscribers in India, bringing in not just voice, but also wireless Internet and broadband connectivity. India is now the second largest CDMA market globally, and the ecosystem continues to grow with new operators, handset OEMs, content providers and application developers,” said Kanwalinder Singh, senior vice-president of Qualcomm and president of Qualcomm India and South Asia. T Narsimhan, Dy CEO, Sistema Shyam Teleservices Limited, the new entrant to CDMA ecosystem said, “100 million subscriber is a landmark moment for the CDMA industry, and reiterates the huge potential for CDMA to grow in India. MTS is a hugely successful global brand and is committed to revolutionize the manner in which wireless telephony services are made available in the country. We stay committed to the continued explosive growth of CDMA telecommunication services in India.” According to the Telecom Regulatory Authority of India (TRAI), broadband penetration in the country was only at 5.5 mn users as of the end of 2008, and PC connectivity continues to be a limitation in achieving faster growth. Recently launched mobile broadband services by CDMA2000 operators will have the same effect on increasing India’s broadband penetration as CDMA2000 1X services had on increasing voice telephony in the region earlier this decade.

probably telenor is afraid of what chinese could do to its investments

dont know abt reliance but,tata has AURUM HANDSET