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^^^ RCOM has already stated that they will start GSM services in 2 months time. Lets wait and watch.

Our frequency allocation plan DPS Seth With the target of 250 million phone connections well in sight, the Indian government has spelt out its vision for 2010: 500 million telephone and 20 million broadband connections. Will this next leap be more of the same, with private Companies in full swing while the authorities muddle through spectrum issues? On current signs, the likelihood is strong. Yet, that may not hurt the telecom sector’s growth much. Cellular mobile technology systems are somewhat flexible in nature, in the sense that they are dependent on the intensity of phone usage, the geographical distribution of moving subscribers at a given point of time and the failure rate of calls we are willing to accept. This explains the growth in the last two years, despite frozen spectrum availability at the cost of service quality. Yet, undeniably, spectrum availability does pose a problem. This can be solved by using planning as a tool to convert the corporate vision into reality. It helps to note that spectrum planning in India is not around a vision spelt out by the government, but rather on the available slots as indicated by the Wireless Planning and Coordinating (WPC) agency while following international radio regulations. Thus, discussions on the National Frequency Allocation Plan (NFAP) cannot be considered open, and the process of consultation takes the form of specific demands made by users of the resource. This also implies that the intensity and urgency which exists for the freeing up of spectrum for telecom usage—in line with the government’s vision—need not necessarily get reflected in the plan, since the WPC, being a coordinating body, has to go through the painfully slow process of persuading a large number of users. Most users, understandably, resist vacation of what is in their possession, and the process of finalisation gets prolonged and often leads to shortsighted denial of spectrum to the really needy users. To vacate more spectrum, “frequency farming” has been done in the past. But this was done through gentle and persuasive means. Now, with a vision as dynamic as the present government’s, the gentle approach has to be dropped. However, in all fairness, and as any plan implies, the cost of such radio spectrum farming has to be met by the industry which benefits from it. Arguments on the security concerns of the country are supreme, of course, but to say that equipment is available only for the bands which are needed for telecom purposes would not be correct. There is much flexibility. In fact, one should see this as an opportunity for the Armed Forces and other users to modernise their equipment with finances from the telecom sector. The factors affecting spectrum requirements are (a) increasing demand, ( need for dramatic increase in service quality, © provisioning of broadband connections on wireless, and (d) availability and deployment of newer, more efficient technologies (for voice as well as data) such as WCDMA, HSDPA, EVDO and WiMax. The first three factors call for increase in spectrum, while the last factor indicates that the increase need not be linear. If, as an example, we carry out a spectrum requirement assessment for Delhi for voice and broadband services with these factors and the present allotment of 49.75 MHz in mind, it can be shown that Delhi needs a total of around 125 MHz. The currently available bands permit a total of 57.5 MHz. The remainder has to be in bands for which the abovementioned technology equipment is available. Space, therefore, has to be created in these bands by forced time-bound vacation of the bands with due financial compensation. Similar scenarios exist for other areas. The planning exercise, therefore, has to go beyond identifying available slots and even beyond persuading existing users to vacate some bands, and must insist on vacation of bands through incentives and direction. It could be achieved. Since the government is on record stating that up to 40 MHz of spectrum is available in the 3G band of 2.1 GHz, why hold up the process of allocation and the 3G policy? This delay is also holding up USF attempts to provide broadband in rural areas. In rural India, identification of the 450 MHz spectrum, particularly suitable for provisioning cost effective services in such areas, becomes a prime objective of the revised NFAP. This band has already been deployed for broadband capable equipment (upwards of 3.1 mbps) in several countries, and in each case, the available contiguous band is less than 5 MHz. Recently, Asia Pacific Telecommunity has requested the ITU to make this band available for IMT2000 (3G) services. It is an agenda item in the upcoming WARC. So, why should our NFAP not be proactive about it, especially since it identifies the entire 440-470 MHz band for fixed/mobile operations? A government directive can do the needful, if some assignments already exist. A similar approach is needed for the 1,800 MHz band, where the entire 75 MHz band has to be vacated with clear incentives of alternate bands for the Armed Forces and monetary compensation by the industry. These arguments apply to several other bands such as 2.5-2.69 GHz, 3.4-3.5 GHz and 5 GHz, some of which are needed for the upcoming WiMax technology. It’s time to act. —The author is former member of Trai. These are his personal views Link: http://www.financialexpress.com/news/Our-f...n-plan/210745/0

^^^ The last STV voucher of Rs 90 should ring alarm bells for RCOM. They do not have any offering in this segment. Their STV 49 offers all local calls at re0.49 pm and onnet calls at Re 0.33 pm but STD calls remain still prohibitively priced at Rs 2.99 for LT and Rs 2.65 for other customers.

oh! and thanks! I thought we are in for a repeat 'classic' case!

Again chinese? Another classic in the making?

Try ebay.in for all your requirements.....

^^^ From the futurebazaar site, we get to know that the D88 phone's specs are very attractive. Then why is the phone not selling that much? Any user on RIMweb can please post here the problems faced by this phone? That is apart from what Aakash Gupta has already pointed out in post #22 above. Can we use the phone's WAP browser like we use it on Nokia 6265 etc? Can we install all Java apps on this fone also? And how is the PC Sync of this phone? Can we connect the fone to a PC to send SMSs etc?

^^^ What exactly is meant by GSM compatible? Does it mean that if you put a RUIM in a GSM phone, the GSM phone should be ale to read the data on the RUIM? If so, my RUIM when put in my GSM LG C3400 phone, reads my SMSs and also my contacts. Does compatibility mean the handset or RUIM?

^^^ But most of the RUIM enabled handsets offered by either Tata or RCOM are network locked. The only exception are the ones launched by Samsung directly. Correct me If I am wrong.

The following site has data updated upto 12.12.2007: http://www.informationmadness.com/cms/inde...0&Itemid=49 Note: This website address has already been posted earlier ion this forum elsewhere. Enjoyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy

The following site has data updated upto 12.12.2007: http://www.informationmadness.com/cms/inde...0&Itemid=49 Note: This website address has already been posted earlier on this forum elsewhere. Enjoyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy....

^^^ Calls to any network at any time of day or night - mobile or landline or fwp or fwt!!!! Enjoyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy

^^^ Thanks, Honest. In todays newspape there is an ad by TATA which states customers from TN/Chennai can opt for this pack to call any network STD to customers in AP, Karnataka and Kerala. So AP is now covered. RCOM also should introduce this plan because at Re 0.50 pm, it is too good to resist.

^^^ I dont think the above is possible at all. You will have to buy a separate SIM and a separate RUIM. Then again, all the other operators will object, so it cannot be introduced at all. This is my opinion.

Any idea why AP has been left out?

wow! looks cool! but at around 30k+, is it not overpriced?

^^^ If I am not wrong, this plan is already available with many operators. The only difference is the daily rentals. I feel RCOM is better as it offers roaming also at Re 1 pm. Correct me if I am wrong.

Ok and thanks. But then all your calls will cost you 1 buck? even local calls? or only offnet local calls and all calls STD?

8900 was the price informed by supernova on this forum in another topic on the same handset. Mods/Admins, please merge the two topics if necessary.

applicable for all india customers or only for bangalore customers?

Enough spectrum after issuance to RCom: Govt tells TDSAT 9 Jan, 2008, 1803 hrs IST, PTI NEW DELHI: Government on Wednesday said that enough spectrum would be available for existing as well as new players after allotting the radio frequency to Reliance Communication for its GSM operations. Appearing before telecom tribunal TDSAT on behalf of the government, Solicitor General G E Vahanvati rubbished GSM operators' claims that no spectrum would be left if alloted to Anil Ambani group's RCom. "It's absolutely nonsense that after giving spectrum to RCom no spectrum would be left. We will show this to you during the next hearing on January 24," Solicitor General said. He assured that the government would utilise the available spectrum in an efficient manner. The government reply came when TDSAT chairman Arun Kumar asked about a report on spectrum by Telecom Engineering Centre and the expert committee set up by it. Meanwhile, Telecom Disputes Settlement and Appellate Tribunal (TDSAT) adjourned the hearing on GSM operators' petition on spectrum allocation and crossover technology amid confusion over a High Court order on the issue. Hearing a petition filed by GSM operators' lobby COAI against TDSAT directions allowing DoT to allocate spectrum and issue licences, the Delhi High Court on January 3 had directed some telcos to file their replies. In its earlier order, TDSAT had directed only DoT to file its reply. Consequently, the tribunal accepted the reply filed by DoT and refused to submit the reply filed by other telcos. Link: http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/News/N...how/2686947.cms

^^^ There seems to be some ghost in your phone,man. Go to the nearest tantrik and do some pooja. Else you will be in serious trouble. Just imagine, it could also blast some day or the other. jus jokin' man. But nevertheless get it checked up at the LGASC for any problems.

more details on this phone here http://www.yulong.com.cn/products/288.html It has also been discussed on our forum here http://www.rimweb.in/forums/index.php?showtopic=11201 Mods/Admins may please merge these two topics if necessary.

I don't think there is any other option. BTW how much does a replacement RUIM cost? Rs 15 or Rs 25 or Rs 150? Are the rates according to the handset one has?

Ha Ha, Hilarious, no?