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RCOM will never copy Tata Indicoms plans, they only follow the market leaders and peers - Airtel and Vodafone. Stop dreaming, friends for such tariffs in RCOM.

^^^ Vindicates my oft repeated stand that MNP, Dual Mode Technology, and 3G will take much longer time to see the light in India. All the above three will fructify only by 2009 is my guess. Sorry for being pessimistic.

deadly plan, hope rcom follows.

@ drali, You have one more person to examine thoroughly. Ha HA ha.

^^^ Is it that pin should be must or should not be? You are right that different plans have different STD rates and hence I presume you say that pin dialing should be must. And what about different cards for STD and ISD? RCOM should be able to allow on one single card. Hope they follow the industry standards, or maybe they want to be like Maggi sauces - 'its different'

Why is RCOM not allowing pinless dialling and also all calls - local, std and ISD on their calling cards? You have to buy separate cards for either local and std on one card and another card for making isd calls. By pinless, i mean that one need not dial *375 or whatever for making calls. In any case, only RCOM is giving freedom to use calling cards while roaming also. I do not know if other operators are allowing this.

You can also take Rs 999 FWP plan which gives all India Free ONNET calls on Reliance network and all other offnet calls at Re 1 per minute. No free talktime.

http://www.samsung.com/in/products/cdma/cd...=Specifications All pics and specs are available here. Looks like an extremely good fone. Someone please post here their experiences.

Hey, Dr. Ali, I tried it and was able to do it without any mistake. Am I alright or is something wrong with me? I also noticed that if you write the 6 in an anti-clockwise direction, then only your foot will change direction. But if you write the 6 in a clockwise direction, then your foot does not change direction. Try it and revert.

^^^ It was stipulated earlier that whoever wishes to retain their number and wants to switch operators, can do so by paying a fee of Rs 200, AFAIK. But then, if he again wants to switch operators, does he have to keep paying the fee? IMHO, MNP will be scuttled once again as the GSM gangsters will definitely feel the heat, unbearable. And the time frame for implementation is far too long - by end 2008. Too, too long for comfort.

^^^ What is RCOMs position? Are they still sleeping on this issue? or are they also readying their networks for 3G? or do they not want EVDO at all? Do they want to go in only for 3G in GSM, (if and when they actually get it)?

GSM players have no right to challenge dual technology: DoT Press Trust of India 13 Nov, 2007, 1802 hrs IST NEW DELHI: The government on Tuesday submitted before sectoral tribunal TDSAT that its decision to allow dual technology is a matter of policy decision and cellular operators have no right to challenge it. "It is submitted that it is a matter of policy decision which has been taken in the larger public interest and having regard to the interest of consumers who would be benefited by the increased competition," the Department of Telecom (DoT) said in an affidavit filed through Solicitor General Of India, Goolam E Vahanvati. "The petitioners has no right to oppose or challenge this policy decision," the affidavit said. The Cellular Operators Association of India (COAI), the representative body of existing GSM players, challenging the decision to allow dual technology in the sectoral tribunal accused the government of favouring a particular CDMA operator to enter GSM arena and also questioned the manner in which it was done. Clarifying its stand over the spectrum allocation and permitting dual technology, the government said that it would give priority to the pending applications of the various players in 23 circles. "Such applications pertain to all the existing 23 service areas. These application would be decided on the basis of the norms that would be finalised after the receipt of the committee report," said the DoT in its 8-page affidavit filed by its Assistant Director. It also cleared that its second priority for allocation would be to the UAS licences issued in 2006. "The second category pertains to UAS licence issued in the month of December 2006, who have not been alloted initial start up spectrum ... the effective date of these licences vary from December 5, 2006 to December 14, 2006," it said, adding that this category would get the start up spectrum after the first category is dealt with. On the use of dual technology the government said, "thereafter, the companies to which 'in principle approval' to use GSM technology under the existing UASL, has been issued on October 18, 2007 would be considered for grant of start up spectrum." The government also said the COAI is giving wrong impression that the parties who have made payment, thereunder would get priority over the existing operators over request for additional spectrum. "Such an impression is not correct," said DoT to the Telecom Disputes Settlement and Appellate Tribunal. Yesterday, during the proceedings, the TDSAT Chairman Justice Arun Kumar had directed the government to file an affidavit within 24 hours having all facts and developments pertaining to spectrum allocation. The tribunal has listed the matter on December 12, for next hearing, while giving a go ahead to the committee constituted by DoT for allocation. Link Courtesy: http://economictimes.indiatimes.com Look who fears genuine competition in telecom 13 Nov, 2007, 0500 hrs IST, Anil Kumar The existing GSM operators are enjoying spectrum of up to 2x10 MHz in excess of cumulative maximum limit of 4.5 MHz for metros and 4.4 MHz for circles set under their original contracts. It was increased to 6.2 MHz in 2004. Most of them have got licences and spectrum without any payment of ‘entry fees’. In 1999, they secured substantial financial benefit from the government under ‘migration package’. They delayed MTNL’s GSM services by three years through litigation. They even objected to the launch of WLL-Limited Mobile service of MTNL. They have not taken even a single initiative to reduce tariffs and instead cartelised and hiked tariffs. They never favoured bidding for spectrum allocation. They had expected that whatever spectrum is vacated by defence ministry would be entirely allocated to its members for expansions. In fact, in their July 6 response to Trai they had advocated preferential treatment for themselves. Airtel and Vodafone had demanded spectrum as high as 2x22.5 MHz for expanding their existing 2G networks alone. These propagandists, represented by the Cellular Operators Association of India (COAI), are now strategically engaged in maligning government policy so that the allocation of spectrum being vacated by ministry of defence is delayed. They have been spreading canards that the government will lose Rs 50,000 crore in case it does not invite fresh bidding for ‘entry fees’ for allocation of spectrum. Trai’s recommendations of August 28 came as a shock to them. Trai not only corrected the anomaly in the existing spectrum allocation criteria but also recommended cross-technology spectrum allocation. Later, the Telecommunication Engineering Centre (TEC), an independent organisation under the department of telecommunications (DoT), further tightened the criteria. Both, TEC and Trai reports have shown that the existing operators have excess spectrum. That being the case, the available spectrum can be given to all those existing licensees who are waiting for initial tranche of spectrum, including Reliance and Tata, who have applied for additional spectrum in GSM band. Predictably, COAI is upset. Well strategised plans of spectrum hoarding by its members have gone awry. COAI has recently moved TDSAT challenging the new spectrum allocation criteria of the government. Legally, COAI is on a weak footing to take on DoT’s decision on permitting cross-technology spectrum allocation for licences, which are already technology neutral. Advocacy of preferential treatment in terms of spectrum allocation for existing players places it in a precarious condition as this would mean inclusion of Reliance and Tatas as well, which it does not want. COAI has now built-up an argument of spectrum allocation through fresh bidding which is aimed at thwarting competition. It has launched a campaign that allocation of spectrum without fresh bidding for ‘entry fees’ would mean loss of up to Rs 50,000 crore. This is an absurd figure. In June 2001, the licence of Delhi was awarded for an entry fee of Rs 170.70 crore through bidding, but with teledensity in Delhi now touching 97%, the chances of getting better ‘entry fees’ is very remote. Similarly, in June 2001, when pan-India licences were awarded for Rs 1,568.57 crore through bidding, at that time the teledensity was at about 3.5% and there was less of competition. With a teledensity of near 22% and more number of active operators, the chances of getting better ‘entry fees’ is unlikely. In any case, the focus of the policymakers should be on faster rollouts, which will ensure much higher level of revenue in the form of licence fees and taxes. Teledensity will shoot up from the present level of about 22% to over 50% in three years. Of course, there will be efficient utilisation of spectrum in the shortest possible time. Realty check on spectrum congestion Is there congestion due to spectrum shortage throughout India? The answer is ‘No’. Only a small number of pockets in Delhi and Mumbai face congestion due to spectrum, e.g., in Delhi there may be only three such pockets — Nehru Place, Rajendra Place and CP. Trai and TEC have suggested technical solutions to deal with such congestion without earmarking additional spectrum for such pockets. New spectrum allocation criteria The old subscriber-linked spectrum allocation policy was flawed, as it allocated higher quantum of spectrum for areas which have lesser population density. For example, Orissa has a population density 283 times lower than Kolkata, but for both the places, the spectrum allocation criteria was the same. Cross technology spectrum allocation Can an operator be condemned with his initial choice of technology for all times to come? The answer is ‘No’. In any case DoT needs to give spectrum to the existing CDMA players, and under a technology neutral licence it should not matter to the government if further allocation is in the GSM or CDMA band, as long as the operator uses the allocated spectrum efficiently. COAI expects that CDMA players seeking further spectrum in GSM band should obtain a new licence, which is nothing but an absurd thinking. Anti-competitive behaviour Tariff reductions have always been initiated by either PSU operators (MTNL & BSNL) or CDMA operators (Reliance & Tata). Reliance’s ‘monsoon hungama’ on July 1, 2003, under which phones were provided for Rs 501, forced GSM operators to slash tariffs. Similarly, the lifetime scheme was triggered by Tata’s ‘Non-Stop Mobile’ scheme initiative in October 2005 under which free incoming calls were provided for two years without recharge. MTNL has made Delhi-Mumbai calls local and BSNL ushered in all-India calling at Rupee One. We are yet to see any consumer-friendly initiatives from GSM operators. On the contrary, they have hiked tariff by 20% to 32.5% matching each others’ tariff. The cartelisation is evident from the fact that on the same date i.e., August 16, 2007, all the three private GSM operators of Delhi (Bharti Airtel, Vodafone and Idea) informed Trai about the hike which was effected by them from the same date i.e., August 13, 2007. This hike is making them richer by Rs 300 crore every month. (The author is a commentator on telecom) Link Courtesy: http://economictimes.indiatimes.com

Why do they need to give any more free lunches? They are not new to the industry now. They are running into their 5th year now, so they are not crawling now, they are already running. Dont expect any more free lunches. There is no such thing as 'customer loyalty' nowadays. If one is unhappy, he can simply switch operators.

If 3G is introduced early, then all handset manufacturers will have similar ideas to exploit fully India's potential. Even Motorola/LG/etc have some great 3G handsets. Let us also hope that Nokia patches up with Qualcomm and introduces some really great 3G handsets.

Hope and pray to all gods that ADA eventually develops better muscle financially, as well as as politically to push through his ambitious plans to start GSM services. There will be numerous hurdles before this dream turns into reality.It is a very good move on ADAs part to have directly written a letter to the PM detailing about the GSM gangsters' shenanigans. The GSM gangsters will definitely use every trick in the book to prevent RCOM from realising its dreams. And as RCOM subscribers, we will eventually have the best of both CDMA and GSM. Eagerly waiting for this to happen. At long last, we will enjoy the fruits of our patience. If at all RCOM is successful in its efforts, it will create eventually a very big monopoly or maybe a duopoly. In that eventuality, subscribers may suffer. MNP introduction is a little tricky with one report saying it will be introduced by this year-end and yet another report says by 4th quarter of 2008!!! Which date is correct? AFAIK, the GSM gangsters will try every dirty trick to stall MNP as they have done successfully in the not so recent past. Yet another problem MNP introduction may create - ONNET calling and SMS packs may cease to exist. One will not be able to find out if a 92/94/97/98/99 series number belongs to RCOM network or vice versa and take advantage of free calling/SMS'ing. Maybe some solution will eventually have to be worked out. Once again the telecom industry will display some crackers. It had become so boring. Now the real fireworks will begin and lets see who wins the war now.

'Long-term cell users risk brain tumour' 9 Oct 2007, 0250 hrs IST,Kounteya Sinha ,TNN NEW DELHI: Chances of developing a brain tumour doubles for those who are hooked to their mobile phones. This has been found in a study conducted by Swedish scientists, which indicates that an hour a day on a mobile phone for a decade is enough to increase the risk. According to Professor Lennart Hardell of the University Hospital in Orebro and Professor Kjell Hansson Mild of Umea University, long-term mobile users had double the chance of getting a tumour on the side of the brain where they held the handset for over 10 years. The team called for special caution regarding children. They said children should be discouraged from using mobiles because their thinner skulls and developing nervous systems made them especially vulnerable. This finding could come as news for the Indian health ministry which has just embarked on the nation's first long-term government study looking at what excessive mobile phone use can do to people's health. Cell phone use is India has rocketed in the past few years. India is now home to over 200 million mobile phone users with six million being added each month. Cell phone usage has been suspect for some time for the health hazards it poses. While studies have shown that people who use cell phones for long periods face the risk of developing malignant brain tumours, others said it could lead to hearing impairment and sleep disorders. The latest Swedish study analysed the results of 11 previous studies carried out around the world. It examined long-term users because cancer can take more than a decade to develop. The researchers said almost all studies in the past had discovered an increased risk of cancer. The study, published in the latest issue of the journal 'Occupational Environmental Medicine', said that those who used their phones for at least a decade were 20% more likely to contract acoustic neuromas (a type of brain tumour) and 30% more likely to get malignant gliomas (a common brain tumour). "Long-term users were twice as likely to get the gliomas and two-and-a-half times more likely to get the acoustic neuromas than other people," the study said. The Indian study is expected to show results in the next five months. Indian Council of Medical Research (ICMR) is conducting the study in five centres including PGI, Chandigarh. Individual trials are being conducted to look at how mobile phones can cause sleep disorders, memory lapses and hearing impairment. TOI had recently reported about what psychiatrists call ringxiety — a phenomenon in which users imagine their phone ringing or feel it vibrate when it actually doesn't. Link: http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Cell_ta...how/2441054.cms If this post is in the wrong topic, admins/mods may please move it.

w/o WAP, RSurf, MMS, at Rs 6500 or lower, it is still worth it. People who do not want these facilities can go in for this model. As for me, I will still stick to my 6265.

As far as I Know, R Connect is not possible on this handset. If anyone succeeds in getting RConnect connected, please post here the methods. I am unable to even use PCSync as the data cable i have was bought from eBay for my 350R. I have both USB and also serial port cables for my 350R. Even the earlier 5340 was not connecting for RConnect or for PCSync also. As for my two 350Rs, only one connected to Bitpim while the other one stubbornly refused to connect. I gave up after wasting my time for almost two months. LG is totally unreliable in this matter or maybe you should buy the original data cables from them. But their ridiculous prices puts one off.

Man, it is not possible at all. Do you know of LG LSP 350R FWP? this also has the same irritating sound and which is atleast ten times if not more louder than RD 3000. Get used to the sound or keep the vibrate profile on or change your handset. The choice is yours. The next LG handset you buy, please check thoroughly for these silly problems.

Is such an adaptor available? When I bought my mini SD card, no such adaptors were available. Of course an SD adaptor was available for using a miniSD card in a SD slot. How much does one miniSD adaptor cost?

California Settlement Allows Sprint Customers to Use Their Phones on Other Networks by the oracle on October 30, 2007 at 12:35 am As part of a class action settlement, Sprint has said it will allow customers who are at the end of the contract to unlock the phones. The phone holders from August 18, 1999 to July 16, 2007 are eligible to receive the unlocking codes - no work as why these dates were chosen. The thing to note however, is that this is, for now, a California only phenomenon, as this is where the lawsuit took place. Another thing of note is that most of the customers will have to move to another state to use their phone, as the only other CDMA carrier in California is Verizon, which doesn’t allow ‘foreign’ phones on their network. Actually, there are pockets of Alltel in Northern California, but the areas of service are extremely small. Perhaps this will spark the owners of unlocked Sprint phones to start a class action against Verizon, so the Sprint phones can be used on the Verizon network. If this starts a trend, perhaps we could see CDMA phones, the superior technology, with RIMs, the equivalent of the SIM card, which are found in the GSM phones, that have the superior convenience. It would be very nice to be able to carry a phone fitting the occasion, with just the change of a RIM card. (Use your Treo at work, where you need the extra features offered, and a Motorola V60 when not working, as all you need is phone capability.) The question of phone locking to a particular carrier has been getting a much more discriminating look, as many iPhone users are wishing the phone was not tied to AT&T. Suits are pending against T-Mobile right now, which is very odd, because T-Mobile is probably the most user friendly customer service in existence. While working for T-Mobile, I saw many customers using phones purchased from other services, and also from overseas, being used without problems on the T-Mobile network. I suppose the customers might be railing against the policy of making the customer purchase a T-Mobile SIM for use on their network. With the litigation taking place in every region of the country, it is only a matter of time before the phones are interchangeable between carriers of the same type service, but, the users will probably rail once again, when the phones are no longer financed by the carrier. For those unaware, the phone that the carrier ‘gives away free’ is part of the loyalty agreement you sign by agreeing to service for a prescribed period. Many times the ‘free’ phone, would otherwise cost up to $200. Trade-offs will be made, so thought before action might be in order.

Only minus - no RUIM. any one here can solve this to take RUIMs? The pricing also is in 4 digits as noted from the attached product note. Can we use java apps on a motorola phone? Like the games, apps, utils etc that we use on a Nokia 6265/6275 phone? what abt download sites from where we can d/l progs as for Nokia?

Mukesh Ambani not world's richest man, says Reliance 30 Oct 2007, 1449 hrs IST,AFP Reliance Industries denied that Mukesh Ambani has become the world's richest man NEW DELHI: Reliance Industries moved swiftly on Tuesday to deny a report that company chief Mukesh Ambani has become the world's richest man thanks to a surge in stock market. An agency report putting his wealth at $63.2 billion hailed his rise as another triumph for the nation's booming economy. But Reliance said Ambani was not quite so rich after all, with a net worth of somewhere in the region of $50 billion. The multi-billionaire was listed by Forbes magazine earlier this year in 14th place among the world's richest people with an estimated wealth of $20.1 billion, way behind Microsoft's Bill Gates on $56 billion. The breakneck rise in benchmark Sensex index, which rocketed to 20,000 points on Monday, after gaining nearly 4,000 points in six weeks, meant 49-year-old Ambani was now worth 63.2 billion. "They are completely wrong. They have done double calculations," Reliance spokesman Tushar Pania said, explaining that Ambani, 49, does not have a direct share in Reliance Petroleum. Ambani's wealth was calculated on the strength of his holdings in Reliance Industries and group companies Reliance Petroleum and Reliance Industrial Infrastructure Limited. Link: http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/A_day_l...how/2502073.cms

7k seems to be a very good price for this LG beauty.

I used Hathway for almost three years and the moment BSNL came up with 2mbps plans, I shifted to BSNL in Jan this year. Till date AFAIK, Hathway does not have 2mbps plans. They are still having only 256/512 kbps plans. On the other hand, Youtele does offer 2 mbps services, though I do not know how their services would rate. I would suggest you to go in for BSNL/Airtel/Reliance/Youtele/Hathway in that order. Check in your area and with your neighbours before you opt for any service provider.