Wanna Buy Digital Slr Camera

[HetalDP 947]

I want to buy Digital SLR Camera and have Shortlisted the Following too! I have not streached mu Budget as more Professional Camera will be so complex to Handle by my Family members !

The Camera i short listed is

Nikon D40x

Canon EOS 400D (Rebel XTi)

Please help me to finalize if somebody have more knowledge.

[ani_meher 42]

Olympus SP 560 is good too, with 18x zoom.

[amtrag 20]

Olympus SP 560 is not a SLR, it's a Point-and-shoot.

Nikon D40X is very good...as per feedback from few actual users.

[ani_meher 42]

Oopls, sorry!

[ashoksoft 83]

I use both, tho my personal fav is the Nikon D40x esp in the RAW mode, 10.2 MP of sheer shooting pleasure ... Battery life of Nikon outbeats canon by a huge shot

The only cons with the Nikon that I've faced are ... Autofocus failure in low light and infinite range and Inablity to soothingly use non asf(x) lenses due to differences in the tether ring of the lens.

cheers

karki

[dkaile 1,051]

I have surveyed lots of Digital Cameras, and I suggest you go in for Canon S5 IS, which I am personally using. Costs about 15,000/- to 17,000/-. It is not a SLR, but a Ultra Zoom but it gives you the feel and look of a SLR. Plus the greatest plus point is that it shoots great VIDEOS (30fps/VGA) with Stereo Sound, which is not possible on SLR cameras. It features 12x Optical Zoom (36mm-432mm), 8 MP, Optical Image Stabilizer, 2.5" Vari-angle LCD, ISO 1600, O cm Macro, SD HC Card compatibity (so you can go upto 32 GB Cards in near future). Only drawback while shooting videos is that you need a huge memory card. I have imported a 8GB SD HC Card from Ebay (costing about 2500/-) so I have capacity for 1 hour DVD quality Video + Great Still Quality. I think it is a better option to comparable Sony Cameras because of Image quality.

Edited January 2, 2008 by dkaile

[amtrag 20]

@Dhiraj,

Just use a DSLR once and compare the results with a Point & Shoot. You will never ever touch the likes of S5IS again!

I have used Canon Powershot A10, then Nikion L-3 and am now using Powershot A710IS. But now I am very clear that my next purchase is going to be a DSLR.

Ultra zoom is not the only criteria and higher zoom does not denote better quality. In case of DSLR, you can use telephoto lenses for the purpose of achieving high zoom.

[srikanth_kv 3]

i agree with what dhiraj kaile says

and dear amtraq, canon S5IS is not aim and shoot or point and shoot. it is prosumer camera which goes well with both professionals as well as newbies. the other cameras in this range are panasonic fmz8, and sony dsc h9,sony dsc h7. they give u excellent results .... and the OPTICAL zoom in these cameras are 12X, please note it is not digital zoom.

advantage of these cameras(panasonic fmz8, and sony dsc h9,sony dsc h7, canon s5is) is u get zoom with a range of 36mm-432mm which is never heard of in dslrs.

1. in case of dslrs u are forced to maintain 3 different zoom lenses , to cover such a range of zoom. and sum total weight of such 3 lenses might come to 2kg, and u have to carry the body of slr as well. u have to shell out rs 10000- 20000 for each of these lenses.

2. if u are cahnging lenses in dslrs ... u shud be careful .. not to let dust in side the body. and now technologies have come up with dust reducing mechanism .. which adds to cost

3. u are cramped with limited zoom range like 18 - 55 mm/ 55 mm-200mm/ 200-300 mm. mens u cant take a group photo and then take a zoom photo in one setting. u have to keep changing lenses. althogh 18-200 mm lenses aare available.. they are quite expensive

4. most of prosumers mentioned above have image stabiliszation. which is a boon at high zoom. if u are buying slr.. lenses with vibration reduction are very expensive.

5..prosumers also have face recognition .. which add to ease of taking photos

6.. prosumers can be handled by any lay man when u put it in auto mode.

7. prosumers give u all the features of slr like aperture priority.. shutter speed priority and full manual ..controls... plus standard.

i have used sony dsc h1, and have got excellent results which common men think of as slr. and it reproduces results even in the hands of any family member . and it is damn cheap compared to dslrs.

pls dont mistake me as some one who hates dslrs... i have RESPECT for them. i feel they are a must for 1. professionals who want very perfect photos which are beyond the understanding of non professionals. and 2. those aspiring to be recognised in the professional photographic world.

i want to buy them.. but to get that zoom range i have to shell 4 times the money as that of prosumer camera.

if u are thinking of urself to be in the photos and expecting ur family members to take photos for u ...pls reconsider ur decision of buying slr...

if u still want dslr u can reply.. u will get various combination of lenses with varying zooms with same body

for more tecnical details visit www.dpreview.com

u can pm me as well

[Mr_Flop 0]

I want to buy Digital SLR Camera and have Shortlisted the Following too! I have not streached mu Budget as more Professional Camera will be so complex to Handle by my Family members !

The Camera i short listed is

Nikon D40x

Canon EOS 400D (Rebel XTi)

Please help me to finalize if somebody have more knowledge.

Me also struck in the exact same decision as you

Can u tell what prices u are getting and whether you'll go for Gray market or From Auth outlet?

[ashoksoft 83]

check jjmehta.com

then reduce about 2k if you plan to pick it up in one of the camera shops at CST in mumbai

hehe

cheers

karki

[tanveer 59]

Nikon D40x.

really wonderful.

though i am not a pro but i have used it and found it to be real good.

[amtrag 20]

Dear srikanth,

Don't get me wrong here. I'm not saying that S5IS is not good. But hetaldp has specifically inquired for DSLR...he has not asked to help him choose between Prosumer digicams and DSLRs. Even the heading of this thread is about DSLRs.

Hence, I am discussing only about DSLRs.

Otherwise, I myself am using A710IS and completely agree with you on the advantages of the likes of S5IS. Infact, I deliberately avoided S3IS only becoz of it's larger size and instead bought the relatively more "pocketable" A710IS.But I would like to add thing: S5IS has everything in terms of features, but it still cannot compete with a DSLR in terms of what cameras are meant for i.e. picture quality.

Just to give an idea... here's a comparison of the sensor sizes:

S5IS : Sensor Size=1/2.5" ...sensor area = 25 sq mm (same as any Point & Shoot across diff models & brands)

D40X : Sensor Size=23.7mmX15.6mm ...sensor area = 370 sq mm (same as any entry/mid level DSLR)

So, the sensor in D40X is appx 15 times bigger in area....and size of sensor matters a lot.

[srikanth_kv 3]

hi amtraq..

i did not know about a prosumers until i bought one ... till then i only thought there were point and shoot and slrs as is the case with film cameras. so i thought of sharing about this range

i thought prosumer wud fit in well bcos of limited budget and expecting family members to take shots( where image stabilisation and face tracking will be very useful)

as u suggested pocketability is a major factor ...

i think it is the no of effective pixels which shud be compared rather than size

and pixels start losing their true sense after 5 mp ...it looks like marketing gimmik .. i have dsc-h1 with 12x optical zoom +image stabilisation nd sony point shoot without image stabilisation + 3x optical zoom. pictures in 2 megapixel in dsc look better than 8 megapixel of point shoot.

so u have to have right blend of megapixel and optics to get good pictures.

[amtrag 20]

and pixels start losing their true sense after 5 mp ...it looks like marketing gimmik .. i have dsc-h1 with 12x optical zoom +image stabilisation nd sony point shoot without image stabilisation + 3x optical zoom. pictures in 2 megapixel in dsc look better than 8 megapixel of point shoot.

so u have to have right blend of megapixel and optics to get good pictures.

Am completely with you on this. Even today, I feel that my old 1.3MP Powershot A10 (bought in yr 2000) gives better images than the 5MP Nikon L-3.

But I highlighted the point about sensor size, because in prosumer dgicams, they keep on cramming more pixels into the same area i.e. on a sensor of 1/2.5 inch, without increasing it's size. Just go through the specs of any model, and you'll observe that, strangely, size of sensor would be same right from one having 1.3 MP upto those models with 8 or 9 MPs.

Packing more pixels into same area translates into more noise & less sharper images, which they try to compensate with much better processors & softwares. They do succeed but still, there remains a lot more to be desired.

@hetaldp

Where are you?

Edited January 4, 2008 by amtrag

[HetalDP 947]

I didn't Expect this much Feed !!!

Greate The Discussion will Help Prosumer and Entry Level Professional users.

In Canon S5IS (Image Stabilising is put into the Sensor) (Sesor keeps moving against Detected Motion to take Sharp Photos in Dim Light, indoor or in Evening and Night Shots) And Yes Some Photo Taken by Canon S5IS is Better then D40x with Normal Lenses.

Nikon D40x in Other hand have to be baught keeping in mind the Exact Uses and Lenses also have to be Selected as per the Requirement Dim Light and Night mode Snapping Definately Require VR (Vibration Reduction Lenses) so 1/60 Shutter Speed in Normal Lenses and 1/500 Shutter in Mega Zoom Beyond 200 mm Lenses Definately Requires VR or VR-II for Sharp Photographs in Low Light. So Buying Nikon D40 6 Mega Pix with Better Lenses always Better then D40x with Very Entry Level Lenses.

Minolta Baught by Sony have Put Image Stabiliser (IS or VR) into Sensor so any Basis Lenses can work easily with Body which reduces cost for Lenses as if u have 3 Sets of Lenses all Lenses will not Require VR type of Motion Detection Techonlogy and Camera can take Responsibility.

Another advantage in DSLR is Filter Kits we can have Ultra Violet (UV) Filter Plorisation Filter to Reduce Glares on Front Glass which can not be There in Prosumers Camera.

Thats why after so many thoughts i Finalised D40x which is also Simple to use and will not Dent my Pocket also.

Edited January 4, 2008 by hetaldp

[HetalDP 947]

Hey Ashok are JJMehta also Provide Bills and Warrenty for the Camera. ???

[amtrag 20]

In Canon S5IS (Image Stabilising is put into the Sensor) (Sesor keeps moving against Detected Motion to take Sharp Photos in Dim Light, indoor or in Evening and Night Shots) ...

A small correction: In canon's IS series models (incl S5IS), Image Stabiliser is built in the lens. So the lens actually moves to compensate for movements

[ashoksoft 83]

Hi Hetal,

JJMehta provides bills and warranty unless it is a grey market camera and priced less than usual. In fact if you know anyone coming from Singapore, you can possibly get the same from there as the prices are way lower.

Lenses from Minolta, Tamron, Sigma, Nikkor etc.. can be obtained cheaper that prices in Mumbai (grey market incl.) if you have anyone flying down from Poland / Singapore / Bangkok.

Had got my 55-200 from poland ... sigma was freakin cheap ... got it about 9.5 k that too about a year back.

cheers

karki

[srikanth_kv 3]

i cud fit a 58 mm uv lens on my dsc h1. it does not sit on the lens but the barrel which holds lens hood. u can even fit fish eye lens according to accessories booklet .

hetal patel.... Another advantage in DSLR is Filter Kits we can have Ultra Violet (UV) Filter Plorisation Filter to Reduce Glares on Front Glass which can not be There in Prosumers Camera.

[HetalDP 947]

Still i haven't finalised any one

I am Positively looking at

Sony DSLR A200 which shortly launch on 29-Feb-2008

http://www.sony.net/Products/dslr/a200/

[Sadikk 301]

take a look at Sony H9, i got this one and smile when someone says i click like pro