deepu 0 Report post Posted August 23, 2004 If you guys want to do messaging, then use GAIM.. Its available at http://gaim.sourceforge.net You can use Login to MSN / Yahoo / AOL / ICQ services simulatneusly. What more you can login to two Yahoo accounts at the same time.... So thats the best option as far as messaging is concerned. The only problem is that you will not be able to use advanced features like voice chatting... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
swaroop 0 Report post Posted August 23, 2004 thanx for that deepu_vk.. that is a kewl software. for messaging that i ve been using for the past year or so.. and like gaim there are also other multi user account login messengers like trillian,odigo,indiatimes messenger,and ther are more.. one google search wil reveal plenty.. but gaim remains to be an open source product. if u are using gaim then guifications plugin is a must .. http://guifications.sourceforge.net Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MasterMind 0 Report post Posted August 23, 2004 Hi All... found a mail service - www.suredid.com... it works very much like gmail... though the UI looks UGLY...!!!! try it out....... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
swaroop 0 Report post Posted August 23, 2004 though the UI looks UGLY...!!!! u call that site ugly ? .i call that miserable.. sure it is fast. sure it is worse .. and one message that i have mailed to my gmail account to test. .....has bounced back.. (shows a popup when u get a mail if u are logged on ) ... what more do u want.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MasterMind 0 Report post Posted August 24, 2004 ..... I also tried sending a test message to gmail and it bounced back... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
deepu 0 Report post Posted August 27, 2004 I just got my Gmail ID. Its deepu.krishnan@gmail.com Still now has not got any invitation privilages.. But can invite some of you when I gets it... If anybody wants it can reply here........... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gadget_monk 0 Report post Posted August 27, 2004 hey can u please give me a gmail invite? my email is parth@myrealbox.com. thanks! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
deepu 0 Report post Posted August 27, 2004 hey can u please give me a gmail invite? my email is parth@myrealbox.com.thanks! Surely will give an invite you when i get it Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
deepu 0 Report post Posted August 27, 2004 This is how GMAIL looked after I first logged in Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
deepu 0 Report post Posted August 27, 2004 This is a review of GMAIL from ZDNET by MATT LONEY Google's yet-to-launch Gmail is, arguably, already as well-known as free email stalwarts such as Microsoft's Hotmail. In part, this is due to the high expectations generally placed on anything from the Google stable. But the debate over privacy issues surrounding the advertising-driven business model that Gmail will use, when it launches, is also a factor. Google has not yet set a date for the widespread availability of Gmail (this still appears to be several months away), but it has offered 1,000 trial accounts, and ZDNet has had a good look at the beta version. When it does launch, Gmail is certain to see a deluge of users signing up. Those who worry about the privacy issues will probably ignore it, but many will find that its features and convenience outweigh any security concerns. Google's new Web mail service is free and provides a gigabyte of storage, but also raises privacy concerns. We put the beta version through its paces. What do you get with Gmail? First of course, there is 1GB of space. This is significantly more than most other free email accounts, and also puts many corporate email allocations to shame. Google plans to subsidise the cost of all this space through advertising -- in the terms and conditions, you have to agree to Google serving targeted adverts. In place of banner ads or pop-ups, you get the familiar text-only Google ads ranged down the right-hand side of the window containing the email; they are not intrusive, and the ads only appear in your Gmail window -- they are not attached to emails that you send out. Below the ads come a couple of related links from Google’s search engine, picked according to the subject matter of the email. Google says that emails are scanned automatically, and that no personal information that could link subject matter to a name will be divulged to any advertiser. One issue that's raised by having 1GB of email is: how do you manage your emails and find those that are stored? Predictably, Gmail is search-based. It is also heavily thread-orientated and uses labels to classify threads, which Gmail calls 'discussions'. These are the three central themes of the service. The inbox view, showing emails and threads, which are called 'discussions' in Gmail parlance. Labels, where assigned, are shown next to the subject. Threading becomes apparent within your first few emails; instead of displaying every email by default, Gmail’s inbox view simply displays the first message of each thread, or discussion. Organisation is aided by labels. You can define as many labels as you wish, and Gmail has four types set up by default: Inbox, Starred (a simple highlighting device), Spam and Trash. Unlike folders, labels can overlap, meaning that mailing list items in your inbox from, say, Politechbot.org, can be labelled 'Politechbot', and all those concerning privacy could be labelled 'privacy'. You can then choose to display only Politechbot emails or only emails regarding privacy issues, but some emails will appear in both views. It’s a simple Boolean ‘OR’ function, and currently there's no way to apply other Boolean logic to the views. For instance, you cannot exclusively select those emails that are labelled both ‘Politechbot’ and ‘Privacy’ (‘AND’) or just those that are labelled ‘Politechbot’ but not ‘Privacy’ (‘NOT’), and so on. User-defined labels are used instead of folders for organising emails and discussions. An email can be assigned any number of labels. For finding emails, you'll probably rely heavily on Google’s search engine, which is typically and necessarily thorough. By default, it operates on content, subject and email addresses. Search options allow you to search any of these fields exclusively, identify which (if not all) labels should be searched, search for conversations that do not contain a particular word (again in a particular label if you like), and specify whether the search should be performed only on those discussions that have attachments. A useful date feature lets you search only those emails that arrived on a particular date or within a range of days, weeks or months from that date. Instead of displaying every matching email at the end of a search, Gmail displays the threads; you have to click on one to see the whole thread with matching words highlighted. Search is used for finding old emails; the advanced search is particularly useful. Alongside Search is the Filter option. This contains many of the same choices, allowing you to filter incoming emails by email address, subject, words either contained or missing in the content, and by whether they have attachments. For each filter, you can specify whether an email should skip the inbox and go straight to the archive, get a particular label assigned to it, or go straight to trash. Users can create any number of filters to organise email as it arrives. Archiving is a term that simply means an email (or discussion) ceases to show up in the inbox. It will still be included by default in searches, but that appears to be the only way to reach it -- there's no option to view the archive in Gmail. Beyond archiving, you can send emails and discussion to the Trash folder/label (which you can view). The only way to delete email forever (at least as far as the user is concerned -- Google specifically states in its terms that it will not guarantee that the data that makes up the email is ever actually wiped from its servers) is from the Trash folder. This, presumably, is Google putting weight behind its claim that Gmail users will never have to delete email again. Google has obviously paid a great deal of attention to the interface. Changing a search option has a corresponding effect on the discussions that are returned, but there is no apparent whole page refresh; only the list of returned discussions refreshes. It’s very slick in practice. Emails are organised as discussions. Performing a search returns the entire discussion, which can then be browsed. The text-only adverts are shown down the right-hand side of this view. Another nod to usability is contained in the keyboard shortcuts. These are turned off by default, but when turned on allow you to navigate between discussions, through emails within discussions, and perform most other essential functions without touching a mouse. The mail settings window has only very basic options, such as switching on keyboard shortcuts (which are set to off by default). Google has taken a characteristically simple approach with Gmail, which means, for instance, that there's no POP3 or SMTP access: you have to use Google’s Web interface. Also, the shortest username that Gmail will accept is six characters, which some people are bound to care about. In its terms and conditions, the company says the service can only be employed for personal use, but it's likely to find favour among many professionals at least as a backup email service, or as somewhere to forward all those emails with big attachments that eat up their miserly corporate space allocations. Google's new Web mail service is free and provides a gigabyte of storage, but also raises privacy concerns. We put the beta version through its paces. Terms and conditions Gmail’s terms of use are, for the most part, pretty straightforward. Because the service is free, it's provided ‘as is’ -- Google can close it without notice at any time and without any liability. Also, Google says it will close any account that's not logged into for 90 days. There is the clause regarding emails remaining in the system once they have been deleted -- but anyone who seriously believes that deleting emails in any system removes all trace should probably surrender their PC now. The really contentious part of the terms and conditions relates to adverts. Here, you agree that Google will serve ads relevant to the content of your email using a completely automated process. Nobody will read your email. However, Google has given itself a get-out by stating that no human will read the content of your email in order to target such advertisements or other information without your consent (our emphasis). What does this mean? We don’t know. We have seen companies offering spam-filtering services in the past that use people to read corporate emails, but this is not an easy game to play. Even with the highest vetting procedures, you still never really know exactly who is reading your email, and just what their motivation is for being there. If you don’t want anybody to read your Gmails, just say no. And if you don’t want a machine to read your emails, go elsewhere or use encryption. Google states in its terms that it welcomes feedback, and that the privacy policy may change before the service goes live. However, the company is unlikely to change the ad-placement policy unless it meets some unmovable obstacle in the form of legislative bodies. So far, that has not happened. In the UK, an initial complaint from Privacy International about Gmail was struck down earlier this month by Britain's Information Commissioner's Office (ICO), partly on the grounds that under EU law, an Internet service is considered lawful as long as it explicitly spells out how the user's details will be handled in the terms of service. The Information Commissioner’s view is that as long as Google is clear and transparent, there is no data protection issue. However Privacy International’s point is that because consent for emails to be read can only be given by an account holder, those who send email to a Gmail customer will have no opportunity to consent to having their email read for keywords. So what, exactly, does the privacy policy say? Google says: # 'We collect limited account information and store and maintain your account and email messages on our secure servers.' # 'We will never rent, sell or share information that personally identifies you for marketing purposes without your express permission.' # 'No human reads your email to target ads or related information to you without your consent.' The information that Google collects includes basic personal information for the account, such as first and last names, a backup email address and a 'secret question' (together with an answer) in case you forget your password. And what about when you click on an advert attached to your email? Google says that a referring URL is sent to the advertiser’s site identifying that you are visiting from Gmail, but that it does not send personally identifying information to advertisers with the referring URL. Those who care deeply about the privacy of their emails will find reason not to use this service -- but then, those individuals should arguably be encrypting all their email anyway. For the rest of us, the adverts will either be ignored or provide an interesting diversion. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vishal Gupta 4 Report post Posted August 28, 2004 GUYS! I HAVE 6 INVITES. ANYONE INTERESTED CAN CONTACT ME. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gadget_monk 0 Report post Posted August 29, 2004 hi vishal, if you have any left can you please send me an invite - parth@myrealbox.com Many thnks! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vishal Gupta 4 Report post Posted August 29, 2004 One invitation has been sent to gadget_monk Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gadget_monk 0 Report post Posted August 30, 2004 Recd it! thanks a ton vishal. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
karpar 1 Report post Posted August 30, 2004 Good one Greens! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
deepu 0 Report post Posted August 31, 2004 I think GMAIL is in final stage of testing.... ANy one has any idea when it will be publicly available to every one..... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chandramauli 0 Report post Posted September 9, 2004 WWWSUREDID.COM really a nice one to try... if u r bored up with gmail,rediffmail, ....u can try this (known as suremail and available in www.mail.suredid.com) website loads fast ..mailing is very easy infact mail site provides 1001mb space for handling mails,and also gives webspace for storing important files i tried it for storing my files ..and really it works fast.... particularly people using yahoo, gmail which takes time to load... .(this one is up to 10 times faster than any other web mail API)may feelthe difference.. ...pretty nice interface ..usage statistics .. some other main aspects are NO ads NO hard-to-load images and NO un-wanted Spam from sponsors,all service 100% FREE of charge and 100% SPAM protection. but still i wonder how long do this service exist???????? FACTS: inbox size:1001mb no spam no ads 10 times faster laoding total mailusers since JULY 31 ,2004 :11102 total mails sent throu suremail since JULY 31 ,2004:10814 i prefer it for users who use various services in net using signups... Pros : 1001 mb inbox,file storage space,mail site loads fast Cons : no widespread advertisement Customer Service : Excellent - Lightening fast Information Depth : Complete information in the world Content Timeliness : Good - Frequently updated Web Site Experience : Very easy - Totally peanuts Web Site Load Time : Wow - That's God speed Courtesy moutshut.com Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Code 0 Report post Posted October 11, 2004 WWWSUREDID.COM really a nice one to try...   if u r bored up with gmail,rediffmail, ....u can try this (known as suremail and available in www.mail.suredid.com) website loads fast ..mailing is very easy infact but still i wonder how long do this service exist???????? Did anyone notice that the service has dissapeared Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hyper 0 Report post Posted October 11, 2004 if u want a free pop3 access email. this is a good one. http://cwazy.co.uk/ also u have many domains to choose from Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
anujit 0 Report post Posted October 12, 2004 Spymac (www.spymac.com) has 1 GB space too and POP (probably IMAP support as well)! But its fairly slow. And the name is sure to scare alot of people off! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chandramauli 0 Report post Posted October 12, 2004 what is the programming language of gmail (googlemail) ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
niket 0 Report post Posted October 12, 2004 what is the programming language of gmail (googlemail) ? 15841[/snapback] At server side they most probably using C or C++ to make CGI programs. At client side Java script. But look at the source. behavior of gmail is total strange for me. can some one explain in detail Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhonyDial 0 Report post Posted October 12, 2004 I will prefer yahoo and hotmail as to other free email services Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
deepu 0 Report post Posted October 13, 2004 orkut.com seems to be created using asp.net do not know with which tool they did gmail..... it sure is different to other email providers..... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
niket 0 Report post Posted October 13, 2004 orkut.com seems to be created using asp.netdo not know with which tool they did gmail..... it sure is different to other email providers..... 16028[/snapback] It is sure at server side they are not using any script lang. Scrips are slow. But What type of programming they are using at client side.? Minimal client - server talk .. thats the secret behind Speed Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
