Project - Foreign Esn / Meid Handset In Reliance

[ipkonfig 10]

Your Grievance is Successfully Registered. Note your

Registration No. DOTEL/E/2008/02350

for future reference.

[HetalDP 947]

This is the Reply i got from DOT

From: ADPG3 Public Grievances <adpg3dot@gmail.com>

Sir,

It is to be intimated that in accordance with TRAI's regulations for

Consumer Grievance Redressal , your service provider/operator has

already established a three-tier grievance redressal mechanism, the

details of contact persons alongwith the details of their phone

number, fax number and e-mail id are available on TRAI website(

www.trai.gov.in) under service provider & Consumer group section and

the same may be referred to for expedient redressal of your grievance.

Section Officer(Public Grievances)

Dept of Telecom. Sanchar Bhawan

--

Mohan Lal

Assistant Director (PG) -3

Department of Telecom

[Mufaddal 678]

rom: ADPG3 Public Grievances <adpg3dot@gmail.com>

Sir,

It is to be intimated that in accordance with TRAI's regulations for

Consumer Grievance Redressal , your service provider/operator has

already established a three-tier grievance redressal mechanism, the

details of contact persons alongwith the details of their phone

number, fax number and e-mail id are available on TRAI website(

www.trai.gov.in) under service provider & Consumer group section and

the same may be referred to for expedient redressal of your grievance.

Section Officer(Public Grievances)

Dept of Telecom. Sanchar Bhawan

--

Mohan Lal

Assistant Director (PG) -3

Department of Telecom

BULLSH##t

[HetalDP 947]

And this is my Answer to them

Subject: Regarding Restirctive Trade Practice from Reliance by not Allowing User Imported CDMA Handsets in Reliance Network

This is very autonomous answer I got from a Respected Ministry of India.

I have been following up with Reliance from last 3 to 4 years and nothing is getting done.

Neither they allow Foreign Handset to get activated into Reliance nor they Introduced the same handsets.

Now Reliannce have Introduced HTC Diamond Priced @ 39900

Source: http://www.topnews.in/rcom-htc-join-hands-...51-india-278884

And the Same Phone in GSM is Launched in Airtel @ 26000 this Surely means Reliance is ripping indian Consumers by making it compulsory to buy only from them. In all GSM Company we can buy any Handset from Any country and Activate it just by Inserting a SIM Card. this make GSM Handset price more Competitive. But in CDMA Reliance and TATA Dont allow such things and make the customer compulsory only to buy from them. If anybody get CDMA Handset from any other country they Refuse to Activate it in Network though its Technically feasible they dont allow us to do it.

our own Ministry have become slave of Reliance and they never Order such company to stop Such a Restrictive Trade Practice. When ever i write any mail for this Reason i only get Autonomous Machine Answer for my Mail and never get the Resolution.

hetal

[situ1962 21]

@ Hetal bhai as this matter concerns to a large no of people and also according to law, reliance and tata are supposed to allow foreign handsets to be activeted on their respective networks,one can start a P.I. In the supreme court.so why not do itwe can drop post cards to the CJ of india describing the unlawfulness of this practice.is it possible? .

[raju_a 31]

Hi hetalbhai,

Can v talk/write/complaint to the list of Consumer organisation/NGO registered with TRAI for the acceptance of foreign handsets on RM network. the contact details r as follows

Telecom Regulatory Authority of India

List of Consumer Organizations/NGO registered with TRAI

Sl.No. Name & Address of CO/NGO Registration Number Date of Regn. Name of the contact

person /phone No.

1. Voluntary Organization in Interest of Consumer Education(VOICE)

441(Basement), Jangpura

Mathurs Road

New Delhi-110014 TRAI/CO/NGO/1/2001 - NO 25.01.2001 Mr. H.K. Awasthi,Manager

(Legal)

Tel. No. 24379079/80

Fax. No. 24379081

Col. R.N. Aggarwal

Tel.No. 0120-2341955

E-mail:

colagarwal17@rediffmail.com,

cvoice@vsnl.net

legal@consumer-voice.org

website-www.consumer-voice.org

2. Consumer Care Society

593, 24th Cross Banashankari

2nd stage

Bangalore 560070

Karnatka TRAI/CO/NGO/2/2001 - NO 02.03.2001 Sh. Ravinder Nath Guru

Secretary

Tele: 080-26713616

President:- 26710450

E-mail:rnguru@hotmail.com

gururavindranath@yahoo.co.in

3. Bombay Telephone Users' Association

Room No. 7, Petit Municipal

High School, Municipal Compound, Waterfield Road,

Bandra West,

Mumbai – 400 050.(MH)

TRAI/CO/NGO/3/2001 - NO 02.03.2001 Sh. Achintya Mukherjee

Hon. Jt. Secretary

Tele: 022- 26439292

Mob:09324939292

E-mail:achint@mtnl.net.in

4. Chandigarh Telecom District Telephone Subscribers Association (CTSA)

House No.1339, Sector 15.

Punchkula, Haryana

TRAI/CO/NGO/4/2001 - NO 13.03.2001 Shri R.K.Verma, President,

Tele: (0172) - 4640464

Mob: 09888239888

09815183408

E-mail:ctsaregd@yahoo.co.in

5. Grahak Sahayak Gurgaon

B-6/6, DLF City,Phase-I,

Gurgaon-122 002(Haryana) TRAI/CO/NGO/5/2001 - NO 19.04.2001 Col. Suresh Bhatia,

Hony. General Secretary

Tel :0124- 4051570

E-mail: hnh@airtelbroadband.in

6. Surya Foundation

170, Sector-A, Pocket-C,

Vasant Kunj,

New Delhi - 110 070.

TRAI/CO/NGO/6/2001 - NO 23.04.2001 Shri M.P. Agarwala

Tel : 26893464

Mob: 9810231049

suryafnd@del2.vsnl.net.in

7. Citizen consumer and Civic Action Group (CAG)

No. 9(Old No. 5) , II Street,

Padnabha Nagar,

Adayar, Chennai - 600 020

TRAI/CO/NGO/7/2001 – NO 26.04.2001 Ms Shohba Iyer,

Deputy Director

Tel:044-24460387

Mob:9840709333

Fax: 4914358

E-mail : cag.india@gmail.com

8. Consumer Guidance Society of India,

'J' Block, Azad Maidan,

Mahapalika Marg, Opp. Cama Hospital

Mumbai - 400 001.(MH)

TRAI/CO/NGO/8/2001 – NO 21.05.2001 Chairman

Tel: 022-22621612

Fax-022-22659715

E-mail:cgsibom@mtnl.net.in

9. Consumer Protection Council

501/B, 5th Floor

Shaily Navrangpura

Ahmedabad 380 009

Gujrat TRAI/CO/NGO/9/2001 – NO 29.5.2001 Shri K.H. Kaji, Chairman

Tel: 079-27541472

Fax: 27542371

E-mail: cpc_ahmedabad@hotmail.com

10. Consumer Protection AssociationJai Somnath, Himmat Nagar Sabarkantha,

Gujarat-3833001

TRAI/CO/NGO/10/2001 – NO 20.7.2001 Dr. Niranjan Nath President

Tel: (02772) 240636

0942821340

E-mail:knj1345@rediffmail.com

11. Orissa Consumers' Association

Debajyoti Upobhokta Kalyan

Bhavan, Biswanath Lane,

Cuttack-753 002(Orissa)

TRAI/CO/NGO/11/2001 – NO 14. 8.2001 Shri K.N. Jena

Gen. Secretary

Tel: 0671-2617597

12. Kerala Consumer Service Society

'NANDNAM' Ranadive Road,

Edapally, Kochi- 682024, Kerala

TRAI/CO/NGO/12/2001 – NO 26.9.2001 Dr. T. Balachandran

President

Tel:(0484)-2330170 ,

Mob:09446473688

E-mail:balachandt@bsnl.in

13. Balakedarara Vedike ® Consumers'

Forum Brasam Building, Nehru Maidan SAGAR-577 401

Karnataka

TRAI/CO/NGO/13/2001 – NO 2.11.2001 Shri K.N. Venkatagiri Rao,

Secretary

Tel: (08183) -226473/237717®

227465(O)

Mob: 09480058303

E-mail:

arlambodara@rediffmail.com

14. All India Chamber of

Consumers 64/2/3, Cross Road no.2

Grahak Bhavan, Begbera Colony,

Jhamshedpur – 831 002

Jharkhand

TRAI/CO/NGO/14/2001 – NO 31.12.2001 Shri B.N. Panday

General Secretary

Tel. : (0657)-2494671

E-mail:

chamber-consumers@rediffmail.com

website: chanverofconsumers.org

15. Consumer Coordination Council,

A 20-21,NITS Building,

Institutional Area

sector 62, NOIDA.(UP) TRAI/CO/NGO/1/2002 – NO 14.02.2002 Chairman

Tel :95120- 2404273

E-mail : ccdel@del3.vsnl.net.in

Website: www.consumeronline.org

Bejon: 9811044424

16. Akhil Bhartiya Upbhokta Congress

133, Platinum Park,

Mata Mandir,

Bhopal – 462 003(MP) TRAI/CO/NGO/2/2002 – NO 14.02.02 Shri B.S. Sharma

Regional President

Tel.:0755- 2772286

Mob: 09425030416

17. Federation of Consumer Association

West Benga

l39, Shakespeare Sarani,

“Premlata”7th Floor,

Room No. 701

Kolkotta-700017(WB) TRAI/CO/NGO/3/2002 – NO 06.03.02 Shri Pradeep Kumar Dutta

Executive Officer

Tele Fax-033-22805927

E-mail: fcawb@cal2.vsnl.net.in

Mob: 09831046377

(Ms. Mala Bannerjee)

18. Telecom User Group of India

B-36, LGF, Kalkaji

New Delhi-110 019 TRAI/CO/NGO/4/2002 – NO 05.06.02 Shri Anil Prakash

President

Mob: 9811155846

E-mail: anilprakash@yahoo.com

19 Palakkad District Consumers Association

KITS College, Court Road

Palakkad-678001,

Kerala TRAI/CO/NGO/01/2003 – NO 13.05.03 Shri P.A. Surendran

General Secretary

Tele: 0491-522320/5706520

Mob: 9446059952

E-mail:

surendranpdca@rediffmail.com

Website: www.consumersuraksha.Bm.com

20 Consumer Unity and Trust Society

D-217, Bhaskar Marg

Bani Park

Jaipur-302016 (Rajasthan) TRAI/CO/NGO/02/2003 – NO 22.05.03 Shri S.M. Mathur

Secretary

Tel: 0141-2282821

Fax-0141-2282845

E-mail: c-cier@cuts.org

cutsjpr@sancharnet.in

Website: www.cuts.org

21 Consumer Guidance Society

D.N. 56-11-13/1

Ist. Floor, Sri Devi Complex

YVR Street,

Opp. Donka Road Patamata,

Vijayawada-520010 (A.P.) TRAI/CO/NGO/03/2003 – NO 22.05.03 Ch. Divakar Babu

Secretary

Mob: 09440390370

Tel: 0866-2583249/2543258

E-mail: Consumersociety@yahoo.com

22 Consumer Rights Education &

Awareness Trust (CREAT)

239, 5th C Main,

Remco Layout, Vijayanagar

Bangalore- 560 040(KTK) TRAI/CO/NGO/01/2004 – NO 22.02.04 Shri Y.G. Muralidharan

Secretary

Tel : 080- 23357280/23403170

Fax : 23303973

Mob: 09448145170

E-mail :creatorg@sify.com

23 Federation of Consumer

Organisations- Tamil Nadu &

Pondicherry,

"Packia Illam"-81

Alagar nagar,5th Street K.Pudur,

Madurai- 600 004

Tamil Nadu

TRAI/CO/NGO/02/2004 – NO 07.04.04 Prof. P. Duraisingam

Chairman

2/84, Melachatram Street,

Parmakudi - 623 707

Ramanthapuram Distt.

TelFax : 04564-228448

Mob : 09443381816

E-mail :fedcotdurai@yahoo.com

24 PTC India Foundation

Suite 306-307,

Competent House

7, Nangal Raya Business Centre

New Delhi- 110 046 TRAI/CO/NGO/03/2004 – NO 27.04.04 Air Commodore(Retd).

N.K. Chhibber,

Secretary General

Tel : 28522640/28521854

Fax : 28521854/28522640

E-mail:ptcif@vsnl.com

website: www.ptc.org

25 Rajkot Saher/Jilla Grahak

Suraksha Mandal,

329, Popatbhai Sorathia Bhavan,

Sadar Bazar,

Rajkot -360001(Gujrat) TRAI/CAG/01/2007 23.03.2007 Smt. Ramaben Mawani,

President

Tel :0281-2471122, 3041329 (office)

Res: 0281-2574400®

Fax : 0281 -2471122

E-mail:

mavaniramb@sancharnet.in

26 Bharat Jyoti,

Arushi House,

16/25, Sarojini Naidu Marg,

Lukhnow - 226 001(UP) TRAI/CAG/02/2007 17.04.2007 Shri Vijay Acharya

Founder President &

Director General

Tel : 0522- 2235880,

0522- 2237899

27 Citizens Awareness Group (Regd.)

#2812,Sector-38-C ,

Chandigargh TRAI/CAG/03/2007-CA 30.07.2007 Shri Surinder Verma,

President

Tel-0172-2692147

Mob: 09417008805

E-mail: contract@cagchandigargh.org Website: www.cagchandigarh.org

28 Consumer Association of Pondicherry

M.I.G -15, Housing Board,

Kurumbapet,

Pondichery-605 009. TRAI/CAG/04/2007-CA 30.07.2007 Shri P. Muthukrishnan,

General Secretary.

Tel-0413-2271429

Mob.-09443274234

E-mail: muthu_con@satyam.net.in

29 Gram Vikas Parishad Rangaloo

P. O.-Jumarmur Via- Kathiatoli,

Distt.- Nagaon-782427,

ASSAM TRAI/CAG/05/2007-CA 23.08.2007 Shri S. U. Ahmed,

General Secretary.

Tel-03672-2249027

Tel. Fax-03672-253140

Mob: 09435060538

E-mail: sirajuddin_79@hotmail.com

30 Federation of Salem District

Consumer Organization,

1-D1, Jai Nagar

OMALUR-636455.(TN) TRAI/CAG/06/2007-CA 03.09.2007 Shri K. Mugundha Boopathi,

General Secretary.

Tel-04290-237134

Mob: 09942817379

31 Upbhokta Sanrakchhan & Kalyan Samiti

Upbhokta Bhawan,

119/354, Darshan Purwa Gumti No. 5,

Kanpur Nagar-208012(UP) TRAI/CAG/07/2007-CA 03.09.2007 Shri Padam Mohan Mishra, Secretary.

Tel-0512-2217840

Mob.-09450156430, 09935545469

E-mail: consumertalk9@rediffmail.com

32 The President Consumer

Protection Association

Daleswar Road No.15,

Agartala-799007, Tripura(INDIA) TRAI/CAG/08/2007-CA 27.09.2007 Shri Amrit Lal Saha,

President

Fax-0381-2380023

Mob: 09862216817

E-mail:amritlal@sancharnet.in

33 The Secretary Islampur

Ramkrishnapally Rural Welfare

Society At. Ramkrishnapally

P.O. & P.S.- Islampur

Distt. Uttar Dinajpur-733202

(West Bengal) TRAI/CAG/09/2007-CA 28.09.2007 Shri A.A. Parvej

Secretary

Phone & Fax: 03526-257723

E-mail:irrwsngo@gmail.com

website: http://irrwsngo.tripaod.com

34 The President KAFAL Samiti

Kafal House,

Bamshera Pinder Glaicer Road

P.O. Bharari

Distt. Bageshwar(Uttaranchal)

TRAI/CAG/10/2007-CA 11.10.2007 Shri Krishna Kapkoti

Mob-09410919951, 09412680129

E-mail: kafal1@rediffmail.com

35 The Secretary Rural Women Society Kodompokpi

imphal West-II Manipur P.O. Wangol.

B.P.O. Kodompkpi-795008

TRAI/CAG/11/2007-CA 25.10.2007 Y. Shanti Devi

Secretary

Tel-0385-2442401

Mob-09862134782

E-mail: wang-dilip@yahoo.com

36 The General Secretary

Mizoram Consumers Union Hqrs.

5th Floor, Lalat Chamber

Temple Square, Tuikual 'S'

Aizawl-796001 MIZORAM

TRAI/CAG/12/2007-CA 25.10.2007 Shri Thanglura

General Secretary

Tel-0389-2324135

Fax-0389-2311514

Mob-09436140027

E-mail: mizoconsumer@yahoo.com

Website:www.mizoconsumer.org

37 Consumers Association of India

3/242, Rajendra Garden

Vettuvenkeni

Chennai- 600041(TN)

TRAI/CAG/13/2007-CA 25.10.2007 Mrs. Nirmala DesiKen

Trustee

Tel-044-22494567, 24494578

E-mail:consumerassnofindia@vsnl.net

38 National Centre for Human

Settlements & Environment

E-5/A, Girish Kunj

Arera Colony,

Bhopal-462016(M.P)

TRAI/CAG/14/2007-CA 01.11.2007 Dr. M.N Buch

Chairman

Shri. V.K. Dwivedi

Chief Admin. Officer

Tel: 0755-2465306, 2463731

Fax: 0755-2465651

E-mail:nchse@sancharnet.in

Website: www.nchse.com

39 The Secretary

Upbhokta Margdarshan Samiti "UMAS"

Upbhokta Bhawan Between Sector-9 & 12

Near H.P, Building

Choupasani Housing Board

Jodhpur- 342008(RAJASTHAN)

TRAI/CAG/01/2008-CA 08.01.2008 Shri Liyakat Ali

Secretary

Tel:(O) 0291-2701888

Tel:® 0291-2701515

Mobile: 09414247640

E-mail:liyakat_ali9@yahoo.co.in

40 The President

People Action in Development

D. No. 2- 158, Plot No. 136

T.T.D. Colony, M.R. Palli

Tirupati-517502 (A.P)

TRAI/CAG/02/2008-CA 24.03.2008 Shri P Gangadharam

President

Tel: 09441557447

E-mail:paid_ngo@yahoo.co.in

Name of Nodal Officer : Shri Mathew Palamattam, Deputy Advisor

Address : TRAI, Mahanagar Door Sanchar Bhawan,

Jawahar Lal Nehru Marg (Old Minto Road)

New Delhi-110 002

Phone : (011) 23211669

Fax : (011) 23213036

E-mail : trai@del2.vsnl.net.in

mpalamattam@trai.gov.in

[spatel 0]

Hello Hetal

I just wanted to clarify one thing, as i am not much of a technical person. So when buying a cdma phone from overseas, we must make sure that the spc esn is clear.. 000000.. right... have been trying to buy a new phone, but was worried it would not work on the cdma network here.. Please let me know. I do appreciate it.

Thanks

Sameer Patel

+919227211660

[HetalDP 947]

If we set SPC as 000000 and load Proper PRL it can be activated in Any network subject to Network allow it.

In India this can be done easily in TATA but not in Reliance

[kshah 452]

At the same time cdma implementations are so stupid that it could happen like tata where phone working today may not work tomorrow if they upgrade or change hardware.

[HetalDP 947]

Dear Mr. Patel,

This is with reference to your email regarding services for your Reliance Mobile number 93xxxxxxxx.

As per our telephonic conversation, we wish to confirm that we have made a note of your valuable feedback and the same has been escalated to the relevant department for necessary action.

We hope your query has been answered.

Thank you for being associated with us and we look forward for opportunities to serve you better.

Warm Regards,

Corporate Center

Reliance Communications Ltd.

[rahujas 16]

We have such a big thread for this topic, good.

But has any of us has approached to any Reliance official directly requesting a foreign handset to be activated on reliance?

Leave aside webworld and wwe.

someone approach to a reliance official directly and ask him to activate the handset and then lets see whats the response.

i hope they don't refuse it.

[@mitJ@in 256]

@rahujas

Which official should be contacted. I shall contact.

[rahujas 16]

@rahujas

Which official should be contacted. I shall contact.

this is what i dont know na dear...

otherwise i would have gone to him ande asked him personally.

May be some of our fellow rimwebian know any official?

[HetalDP 947]

Already Contacted 3 Person in Nashik they all were clueless.

I have Sent Email to Planning Departments of RCOM.

I am very unhappy with lukewarm Response by RimWebian for not sending Email to them.

[dkaile 1,051]

Yes with more than 20-30,000 members we should at least be sending them 2-3000 mails; I think all new members are just interested in solving their problems and when it comes to supporting Rimweb, they are all sleeping...

[ACS 130]

Yes with more than 20-30,000 members we should at least be sending them 2-3000 mails; I think all new members are just interested in solving their problems and when it comes to supporting Rimweb, they are all sleeping...

60-70% of the RimWebians may not understand this thread.

Leave alone newbies, as this itself seems far technical in nature..

[kshah 452]

Rimmed members are certainly cribing more than they actually act.

I have very little hopes that reliance will ever listen to such request, recent tata problem will make them think twice before taking decision beyond their technical abilities .

Cdma is far more complicated in terms of implementations.

[HetalDP 947]

I have fully stopped CDMA Service taken Least Chargable Local Plan and Diverted my Calls to Airtel unconditionally, Registered my New Mobile Number from HDFC to Stock News Updates.

But still i am Interested helping CDMA Community for this. I won't be interested even Reliance Start EVDO also. Becuase what the hack we gonna do if Reliance is selling Victor @ 39000 without any Great Support.

I am Happy with EDGE or Airtel @ 8kbps who want more then that to just See Email or Chat on Google or Yahoo. in Office and Home My HTC G1 detects WiFi and make it Preferred Network for Browsing.

GSM PDA are Cheaper / More Hackable / Good Quality and they are Introduced very very timely. in CDMA We get the Device when Manufacturer think they is no Hope left to sell it on GSM Network.

Hello RimWebians it in your Interest take little pain and Shoot the mail.

[Mufaddal 678]

I am very unhappy with lukewarm Response by RimWebian for not sending Email to them.

cmon rimwebians......lets do it for our cause .....this is not the problem of one particular individual......lets all get together and shoot them with a barrage of mails ......

[smyagnik 1]

mail sent.....

Your Grievance is Successfully Registered. Note your

Registration No. DOTEL/E/2008/02453

also give me email id of reliance authority where i can sent emails....

[kshah 452]

I have fully stopped CDMA Service taken Least Chargable Local Plan and Diverted my Calls to Airtel unconditionally, Registered my New Mobile Number from HDFC to Stock News Updates.

But still i am Interested helping CDMA Community for this. I won't be interested even Reliance Start EVDO also. Becuase what the hack we gonna do if Reliance is selling Victor @ 39000 without any Great Support.

I am Happy with EDGE or Airtel @ 8kbps who want more then that to just See Email or Chat on Google or Yahoo. in Office and Home My HTC G1 detects WiFi and make it Preferred Network for Browsing.

GSM PDA are Cheaper / More Hackable / Good Quality and they are Introduced very very timely. in CDMA We get the Device when Manufacturer think they is no Hope left to sell it on GSM Network.

Hello RimWebians it in your Interest take little pain and Shoot the mail.

This is how I shifted to GSM. I dierted all my calls to my new airtel number. GPRS is much slower than 1X in CDMA but certainly, its peace of mind.

[dkaile 1,051]

^^^^

I am on Reliance and not losing any sleep either; have absolute peace of mind; good handsets are now available at half the cost of gsm (a-la sadikk); my bill is nearly half of my gsm counterparts; all network and internet is working; network available in all remote locations; so cdma is not that bad after all; only thing is limited choice of handsets...

[HetalDP 947]

@dkaile

That is the sole reason we are discussing in this thread for Foreign ESN,

Its never the Network, Calling Charges, Rental Plan which fascinates me. Its the Handset and Add Facilities which Fascinates me a lot.

@ Kalpak

I am Getting Stable rate of 97 kbps this is Same as we got in Reliance + AirTel is less Blocking in Normal Browsing of Web Site or Email or Chat compared to CDMA 1x Data

[nawalsingal 1]

Successful Registration

Your Grievance is Successfully Registered. Note your

Registration No. DOTEL/E/2008/02459

for future reference.

Thanks for the idea. C'mon lets show them we aren't going to bear rcom's injustice to us lying down. Let's wake up RCOM & DOT.

[nawalsingal 1]

Yes with more than 20-30,000 members we should at least be sending them 2-3000 mails; I think all new members are just interested in solving their problems and when it comes to supporting Rimweb, they are all sleeping...

very true. thats why we all are suffering. Already sent mail to dot.will be sending to rcom also