ravi_patent 28 Report post Posted December 13, 2008 this is something all operators fight tooth and nail. http://www.businessline.in/cgi-bin/print.p...amp;prd=bl& New Delhi, Dec. 12 The Telecom Regulatory Authority of India on Friday said that it was looking to move towards a tariff regime where mobile operators charge on a per second basis instead of the current practice of charging every minute. If this is implemented it will result in huge savings for mobile users who currently have to pay for an entire minute even if they talked for just 30 seconds. All the operators at present charge on a per minute basis, which means that each time a user dials he will have to necessarily pay for the entire minute. This system of charging proves to be particularly expensive given the number of times the call drops specially in metros such as Delhi and Mumbai. The telecom regulator said that though mobile tariffs are under forbearance it will have to look at a per second pulse rate due to the operators not addressing the issue of calls dropping. “Consumers must get what they pay for. Given the frequent call drops we should perhaps have per second based pricing,” said Mr Nripendra Misra, Chairman, TRAI, on the sidelines of the India Telecom Summit 2008. Mr Misra also urged the operators to cut SMS charges. “I urge telecom companies to keep in mind the principle of forbearance. But forbearance has not been followed at times. I tell companies, please listen to our persuasion. The request on SMS has been pending with them for a year,” he said. Operators currently charge at the rate of Rs 1.20 per message. However, according to industry analysts, there is no cost accruing to the operator in providing this service. The regulator said that the operators should respond within a week by cutting SMS rates. Mobile operators said that the TRAI intervention was not necessary given that tariffs are being determined through the market mechanism. “I do not think TRAI needs to prescribe any new tariffs. We are already offering the lowest tariffs in the world. There are nearly 7-8 operators in each circle which makes it really competitive,” said Mr T.V. Ramachandran, Director-General, Cellular Operators Association of India. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
situ1962 21 Report post Posted December 13, 2008 Really IT'S a good note by TRAI.considering the call drops and also for usage of shorter than a full minute people have to pay more and the extra money goes to the operator's pocket.this must be stopped and charging per second is a very good move.this should be implemented as soon as possible. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sumatrix 1 Report post Posted December 13, 2008 Previously tata indicom had a true paid service which used to be billed on per second basis. But later they discontinued it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Greatest 55 Report post Posted December 13, 2008 ^^^ really a nice one... trai should implement it... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HetalDP 947 Report post Posted December 13, 2008 1 Paise / Second would be NICE and Twenty Paise / SMS without Package would be NICE Just visit TRAI Site and Send your Recommendation Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
srk006 21 Report post Posted December 13, 2008 Wonderful thought. Let it be implemented ASAP @HetalDP I had one doubt.. Do they actually take a recommendation from ordinary people? or just experts in the domain? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Honest 836 Report post Posted December 13, 2008 Yes my dear friends, it will be great if all operators are bound to bill as per second usage. As now a days Call Drops are very frequent and many of these silly operators are not taking care of the same. They are just busy filling up their pockets. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Honest 836 Report post Posted December 13, 2008 TRAI to intervene if SMS tariff not slashed Economic Times l 13 Dec l New Delhi TRAI chairman Nripendra Misra has warned telecom operators that the regulator would be forced to intervene if they did not slash SMS charges and address issues related to call drops. “The request for SMS tariff reduction has been pending with the operators since almost a year. This is the time when we feel the need to intervene. If telcos do not act, we will float a consultation paper soon in this regard,” Mr Misra told reporters on the sidelines of an industry meet. TRAI had earlier made several appeals to the telecom operators to reduce SMS tariffs in a phased manner, but operators have so far failed to reduce SMS tariffs. Along with the SMS tariff issue, TRAI will also look into the current billing system, which is done on a per minute basis. This implies if a call is disconnected in 15 seconds, the user will pay on a per second basis only. At present, billing is done on a per minute basis — that is, even a 15 second call is treated as a 1-minute call and billed for the same. “Caller must pay for the time used for the service and not for the whole minute,” Mr Misra said. TRAI sources say that the regulator has been forced to take up this issue on account of the increasing number of call drops experienced by customers. Call drops, which happens when the call is disconnected due to network related issues such as congestion and spectrum crunch, is amongst the major problems experienced by consumers. Lashing out at the operators over call drops, Mr Mishra said, “The issue is a matter of concern and has to be addressed soon. The consumer cannot be allowed to suffer due to this.” The regulator also plans to come out with another consultation paper this month on call termination charges. The government last month had asked the regulator to review the five-year-old termination charges for fixed and mobile telephony. An operator on whose network a call originates pays termination charge to the operator on whose network the call terminates. Currently, a 30 paise charge is levied on operators as termination charges. The present termination charge of 30 paise a minute per call for mobile telephony is considered high, especially by the new players. This is because, was fixed five years ago and since then cost parameters have changed considerably. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dj 25 Report post Posted December 13, 2008 Both very very welcome initiatives... Bsnl for one has a 15 sec billing pulse FYI Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
@ksh@T 20 Report post Posted December 13, 2008 well if theese are implemented the bills for customers are gonna reduce sharply . . . . i appraise trai for this thought . . tata had started true paid in beginning to gain customers but when they had gained they stopped it! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sumatrix 1 Report post Posted December 13, 2008 well if theese are implemented the bills for customers are gonna reduce sharply . . . . i appraise trai for this thought . . tata had started true paid in beginning to gain customers but when they had gained they stopped it! ya but the true paid charges were a bit on the higher side. They had a charge of 3p per second which translated to 1.8 re for a local call Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sadikk 301 Report post Posted December 13, 2008 "Bahot der kar di meherbaa aate aate". I wan thinking this in beginning of 2007. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Honest 836 Report post Posted December 13, 2008 "Bahot der kar di meherbaa aate aate" Der Aaye Durust Aaye. Woh paidal (Walking Walking) Chalkar Aa Rahe Thhe Na, Isliye Itna Time Lag Gaya Meherbaa Ko Aatey Aatey. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vmsanghrajka 0 Report post Posted December 14, 2008 (edited) TRAI chairman Nripendra Misra has warned telecom operators that the regulator would be forced to intervene if they did not slash SMS charges and address issues related to call drops. Vodafone in response to this threat has slashed its SMS price for prepaid customers in Mumbai circle from Rs. 1.50 to Re. 1.. Edited December 14, 2008 by vmsanghrajka Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Greatest 55 Report post Posted December 14, 2008 ^^^ looks like the heat has started among the players... lets just hope for the best..!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
santhoshavanoor 7 Report post Posted December 14, 2008 Yeah... Hurrai... Finally TRAI came on route... What's the problem of implementing per second billing with operators? They will loose money... I agree that in India mobile call charges are cheaper... But we required freedom.... Now its the time to cut the prices for broadband also.. When mobile operators will change their tariffs? They will not do it quickly... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ipkonfig 10 Report post Posted December 14, 2008 TRAI chairman Nripendra Misra has warned telecom operators that the regulator would be forced to intervene if they did not slash SMS charges and address issues related to call drops. Vodafone in response to this threat has slashed its SMS price for prepaid customers in Mumbai circle from Rs. 1.50 to Re. 1.. 1.50/- for an outgoing SMS? Thats daylight looting. I thought the 80 paise charged by BSNL is expensive. Even 1/- is too much for an sms. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Honest 836 Report post Posted December 14, 2008 TRAI chairman Nripendra Misra has warned telecom operators that the regulator would be forced to intervene if they did not slash SMS charges and address issues related to call drops. Vodafone in response to this threat has slashed its SMS price for prepaid customers in Mumbai circle from Rs. 1.50 to Re. 1.. Still Re. 1/- for a SMS is high my dear friends. They should reduce it to a minimum of 0.30 paise. When they can allow calls at 0.15 or 0.30 paise, then why not SMS ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KumaarShah 143 Report post Posted December 14, 2008 If per second billing is introduced, it may lead to higher tariffs than the ones currently on. Do you think RCOM will introduce 1ps per 2secs for Platinum customers or Onnet calls or how about 1 ps for 4 secs for an ONNET call at Re 0.15 pm currently? I feel this move will induce the operators to jack up prices eventually. It may boomerang. But then maybe competition from 11 operators within a circle may help maintain the balances. Lets wait and watch.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sadikk 301 Report post Posted December 14, 2008 Woh paidal (Walking Walking) Chalkar Aa Rahe Thhe Na LOL that was funny. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sumatrix 1 Report post Posted December 14, 2008 Paidal aaya atleast aaya toh sahi.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
