zeus 0 Report post Posted September 19, 2004 we know netway is about to be launched in a few months .. So how much speed are u lookin for ? .. for me , anything below a 1mbps connction will be a big big dissappointment .. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
city02 63 Report post Posted September 20, 2004 OK, then be prepared for the 'big big dissappointment'! It's highly unlikely to be able to provide more than 128-256 Kbits on a sustained basis (16-32 Kbytes) while the peak might touch 300-400 Kbits in bursts. which provider can give even 0.5 Mb/s today? i think your expectations are quite disconnected from reality ... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ganesh 0 Report post Posted September 20, 2004 City02, tata indicom vsnl internet and dishnet broadband line gives 512Kbps in chennai, and beleive me it really gives that speed Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zeus 0 Report post Posted September 20, 2004 It's highly unlikely to be able to provide more than 128-256 Kbits on a sustained basis (16-32 Kbytes) while the peak might touch 300-400 Kbits in bursts. wtf .. 300 - 400 kbps is not broadband .. at that speed they can't offer interactive TV & all that vid on demand stuff ... man, it has to be much more than that .. Only the people who have tested it so far can tell us what are the REAL speeds .. but if what you are saying is true , then i gotta say that BROAD band in India s**ks bigtime .. really Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
karpar 1 Report post Posted September 20, 2004 Yes, there was an article on this too... So, what say we emigrate??? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
biosbhai 0 Report post Posted September 21, 2004 broadband is the most misused term in India. They might be offering 256 kbps or 512 kbps connections, but the download limits simply ****!! Whats the point in having such high speed connections if u cant download stuff to enjoy such speed? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chirag 5 Report post Posted September 21, 2004 A guy from TATA indicom BroadBand visited me the other day. And on inquiring abt speeds he said "You would get speeds upto 512 kbps" .. I hate tht word "upto"! Coz its not "atleast"! He confirmed saying that u will get it in the range of 64 to 512 kbps. So i shove him off, and kept hooked on to the CableNet I have! all these ppl have misused the BroadBand term! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ashokjp 15 Report post Posted September 21, 2004 Ya its the same all over.. All say a maximum of 256 or 512 or 115 kbps But the truth is you wont be gettin even the half of it Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ganesh 0 Report post Posted September 22, 2004 rconnect is better Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zeus 0 Report post Posted September 22, 2004 300 - 400 is not considered broadband in many countries .. going by their definition b/band is an always on connection providing atleast a data transer rate of 1.5 mbps & here in india , its 256 k i think ... that s**ks coz a lot of isp's promising 256 actually provide 64-80k on average .. One of my uncles who managed to visit Japan sometime ago had a 30 mbps connection on WIRELESS ... holy **** , thas equivalent to 20 T1's ... lol , these Japanis r always 10 steps ahead Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AmanJ 1 Report post Posted September 24, 2004 http://www.thehindubusinessline.com/2004/0...92401580500.htm VSNL enters broadband retail space Kripa Raman Mumbai , Sept. 23 VSNL appears to have stolen a march over other large corporate contenders in the race to the broadband home retail space. The company has already gone commercial with its Tata Indicom offer in select pockets in Mumbai and Pune, and not just with the DSL service that came with the acquisition of Dishnet DSL some time back but with its own metro-ethernet project. Brochures describing its offers are already being distributed in neighbourhoods across the two cities. It was Reliance Infocomm that was most strongly associated with any metro-ethernet project, the company having laid fibre to connect a million buildings across the country. VSNL's metro-ethernet project will soon have under it some 40,000 km of optic fibre, both owned and leased, connecting 30-40 cities in the country. "We have taken 20,000 km of fibre on lease in perpetuity, almost. We have another 15,000-20,000 km of our own, such as that laid by Tata Power in Mumbai. Wherever we cannot lease, we are laying fibre of our own," said a senior company official. In Mumbai alone, the company has over 700 km of fibre, the official added. "We have started here in a phased manner from June 2004." While DSL customers are mostly post-paid customers, the metro-ethernet broadband service being offered has several prepaid tariff packages. A full-fledged commercial launch spanning 30 to 40 cities is around the corner, said the official. Both volume-based (based on volumes downloaded) and time-based broadband packages are available, the maximum download speed being 512 kbps. Initial installation charges amount to around Rs 2,000; this is currently lower than the initial charges of Rs 3,000-4,000 that cable Internet providers ask for. "Should a small home enterprise require to connect more than one PC to our broadband service, we will provide a router for which an additional Rs 8,000 is charged," said the official. Broadband packages start from Rs 397 (including taxes) for downloads up to 200 MB, the charge being around Rs. 1.80 per MB. The time-based offers also start at Rs 397 (including taxes) for 20 broadband hours. An official with Reliance Infocomm said that though his company was not yet ready with its home retail offer, its own broadband plans would be "incomparable" with that of the others. "We are not just talking of Net access; we are going to offer content and value-added services. We are building up libraries of content and lots of applications, and also, we are not talking of access speeds of 512 kbps but of speeds on gigabyte scale." "There are ways of reaching the Internet home even without the PC, the sky would be the limit," said a senior official with Reliance Infocomm. so u guys shouldnt b concerned about speeds after reading this post Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zeus 0 Report post Posted September 24, 2004 thanks bro .. i was lookin all over to find some news ... well , i keep my fingers crossed till Netway strikes ... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
city02 63 Report post Posted September 25, 2004 Hope everyone distinguishes between connection speed (max/theoretical), burst speed (actual max), and sustained speed (actual avg). The providers always focus on the connection speed while the consumers need the sustained throughput. e.g., on a 56 K modem the conn is 53 K, the bursts are around 45-50 K, and the sustained is usually 30-40 K. Since most broadband deployments have shared bandwidth at some level, the speed is given for a single user online. As the number of users goes up, the available 'pipe' will get smaller. Normally one can expect about 5-10% of users to be online together with about 15-20% online during peak hours... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
biosbhai 0 Report post Posted September 26, 2004 Any indication of download limits? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
setu_garg 0 Report post Posted September 28, 2004 Broadband definition according to TRAI: Speed >= 256 KBPS Data transfer: unlimited. The main problem with so called broadband providers in India is that they put everything in "upto". Speeds "upto" 512 KBPS. Actually, the speed fluctuates. making the avg speed much lower. Lets see how reliance scores. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
abhay 0 Report post Posted October 7, 2004 ppl reliance is not wrong @ its path. it says it will giv 1mbps it means it. but there are few catches 1) 1mbps (mega BITS per second) = 128 (mega BYTES per second). which is 1 mbps / 8 = 128 MBps 2) it would giv that speed for internal consumption like video on demand, audio on demand , cable tv , etc etc etc which by the way dont need external (international bandwidth) only local infrastructure should be good. which of reliance is the best in india and one of the best in the world. 3) i have been tracking NETWAY® since 6 months ( as far as i remember n i came to know that its @ par with some italy's biggest isp n cable service provider (whose service is ranked amoung the top 10's in the world) so "reliance automatically comes under top 9 best isp's in the wold " because the roll out that italy's isp has is very very small than what reliance has done 4) hmm the internet acess speed which i have been seeing ppl are most eager to know about !!! well i dont think so india has that much international bandwidth that the bandwidth would be provided to residential users @ such a cheap rate that reliance is offering. 5) it can provide superb bandwidth for servies like lan gaming , video on demand , audio ,local n long distance video conferencing and other excting stuff because they work on reliance's own network and NOT ON INTERNATIONAL BANDWIDTH and mind it @ 128 MBps of dedicated connection things do work faster ps all of the isps research done through internet so blame the internet not me if the facts are wrong Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
abhay 0 Report post Posted October 7, 2004 internet bandwidth would be around 256 kbps which is 4 times faster than the dialup mtnl which i'm using currently mr ambani i want to be the first coustomer to use this service 256 kbps is what i'm craving for. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Utsav 0 Report post Posted October 7, 2004 What about the rate? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
abhay 0 Report post Posted October 7, 2004 rates would be around 500 to 1500 as the ppl in the forum are saying. i dont know much abour it. but its for sure that reliance is launching this service for household users so it would be v stupid to keep the rates very high keeping in mind that most ppl in india consider the rates first then the service. wtf .. 300 - 400 kbps is not broadband .. at that speed they can't offer interactive TV & all that vid on demand stuff ... man, it has to be much more than that .. Only the people who have tested it so far can tell us what are the REAL speeds .. but if what you are saying is true , then i gotta say that BROAD band in India s**ks bigtime .. really 14011[/snapback] dude try acessing a playing movie from a simple lan it works. & here we are talking about super fast servers, gigabit lancard (network infrastructure), optical fiber cables, n other network technnologies. try acessing news from normal r world a service provided with reliance india mobiles it works fine. and if works fine with wireless here with lastmile connectivily (wireline sevice) one can garantee better and cheaper communication's (as far as i know ) so i dont think there would be ne kind of problems with other services other than internet connection . gotta wait and know what reliance is offering in that space. dude let the competition come in broadband space also... then we can see the real deduction in rates & real increase in speeds n services. its just reliance thats truly comming up in this sector now.. i think it will be like mobile revolution that reliance created in india. first reliance entred with cdma n cheap rates then others also had to lower down their rates n improve their services to survive the compitition the same would be for boradband services Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
