me_saket 73 Report post Posted July 7, 2009 ^^^here goes the calculation total minutes i spoke = 30 minutes and 58 seconds total minutes saved = 5 minutes and 2 seconds since call charge is 1p/1 sec i was charged Rs 18.58 and i saved Rs 3.02 if pulse rate is 1 min and call charge is 60p/1min [1p/1sec] then i will be charged Rs 21.6 for 36 minutes of usage.. hence proved 21.6 = 18.58 + 3.02 i saved 13.9815 % [21.6*13.9815/100 = 3.02] Thanks ramesh. All rimweberian Now it is time to chage ur service provider to docomo, As it is giving CLEARly saving of Appox 14% in ur usage. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
faizone 15 Report post Posted July 7, 2009 Still no update from the Docomo CC about my signal problem. The SLA deadline passed at 8pm this Sunday and its Tuesday today.. They are still working, atleast it seems so... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
me_saket 73 Report post Posted July 7, 2009 I was going through the tata docomo website especially the recharge voucher section under the Kerala circle. I did a small calculation: 1 rupee of talktime offers a talktime of 100 seconds A recharge of 101 e-recharge offers a taltime of 91.6 So Rs. 91.6 offers a talktime of 9160 seconds So it means that for Rs. 100 you are offered a taltime of 9160 second. Cost per second actually incurred is Rs. 100*100/9160= 1.091ps/sec When u calcualte on a minutely basis, i.e 1.091*60 secs= 65.4 approx 65ps/min which is comparable to the rates offered by other operators. I calculated for the Rs. 10 e recharge as well and that gave me a per minute call rate of 84 ps/min. But the main advantage offered by Tata is the per second pulse rate. I think per second pulse rate steals the show. It was a totally new and unexpected concept. u got confused with service tax. Any operator is giving TT after deducating service tax only. if u see rcom gsm, it is also giving TT of Rs88, and u can talk Rs88/0.60perminute = 147minutes= 8866 seconds(if all call end at exactly 60th second) which is ofcource not higher than docomo's 9160seconds so always do calculation after deducting ST. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bhargavachandra 3 Report post Posted July 7, 2009 ^^^here goes the calculation total minutes i spoke = 30 minutes and 58 seconds total minutes saved = 5 minutes and 2 seconds since call charge is 1p/1 sec i was charged Rs 18.58 and i saved Rs 3.02 if pulse rate is 1 min and call charge is 60p/1min [1p/1sec] then i will be charged Rs 21.6 for 36 minutes of usage.. hence proved 21.6 = 18.58 + 3.02 i saved 13.9815 % [21.6*13.9815/100 = 3.02] That was a nice calculation and analysis, Mr. Ramesh!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bhargavachandra 3 Report post Posted July 7, 2009 I was going through the tata docomo website especially the recharge voucher section under the Kerala circle. I did a small calculation: 1 rupee of talktime offers a talktime of 100 seconds A recharge of 101 e-recharge offers a taltime of 91.6 So Rs. 91.6 offers a talktime of 9160 seconds So it means that for Rs. 100 you are offered a taltime of 9160 second. Cost per second actually incurred is Rs. 100*100/9160= 1.091ps/sec When u calcualte on a minutely basis, i.e 1.091*60 secs= 65.4 approx 65ps/min which is comparable to the rates offered by other operators. I calculated for the Rs. 10 e recharge as well and that gave me a per minute call rate of 84 ps/min. But the main advantage offered by Tata is the per second pulse rate. I think per second pulse rate steals the show. It was a totally new and unexpected concept. That was a nice analysis, Mr. Vinayak Pai ! But in my circle (Andhra Pradesh) other GSM operators (don't know about BSNL) are not providing 60 Paise/Min. tariff as a base-line tariff. If I want to get 60 Paise/min tariff, then I'll have to subscribe to a add-on pack which would cost anywhere between 30 to 50 depending on the operator. I hope sometime very soon every operator has to offer 60 Paise/Min as a base-line tariff. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kshah 452 Report post Posted July 7, 2009 Comparision between second and minute based charges is not possible. What if some operator give you half the price per minute but 1 hour as pulse rate? Imagine your billing???? I was going through the tata docomo website especially the recharge voucher section under the Kerala circle. I did a small calculation: 1 rupee of talktime offers a talktime of 100 seconds A recharge of 101 e-recharge offers a taltime of 91.6 So Rs. 91.6 offers a talktime of 9160 seconds So it means that for Rs. 100 you are offered a taltime of 9160 second. Cost per second actually incurred is Rs. 100*100/9160= 1.091ps/sec When u calcualte on a minutely basis, i.e 1.091*60 secs= 65.4 approx 65ps/min which is comparable to the rates offered by other operators. I calculated for the Rs. 10 e recharge as well and that gave me a per minute call rate of 84 ps/min. But the main advantage offered by Tata is the per second pulse rate. I think per second pulse rate steals the show. It was a totally new and unexpected concept. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bhargavachandra 3 Report post Posted July 7, 2009 Dear Mr. Shashank, Any updates on Karnataka launch.....? How is the IVR doing.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
prabakar 0 Report post Posted July 7, 2009 Both Savramesh & Vvinayakpai have ignored the amount spent on rate cutter. Least rate cutter is Rs 21 for 3 months by RGSM .And how it can be divided for calls ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bhargavachandra 3 Report post Posted July 7, 2009 (edited) Both Savramesh & Vvinayakpai have ignored the amount spent on rate cutter. Least rate cutter is Rs 21 for 3 months by RGSM .And how it can be divided for calls ? Dear Mr. Prabakar, In the analysis done by Mr. Ramesh, there is no need for a rate cutter because he has mentioned only local calls. As we all know, Tata DoCoMo offers per-second pulse and all local calls are charged 1paise/min (adding up as 60paise/min) without any add-on plan whatsoever. Even assuming that he mentioned STD calls the equation will be same as Mr. Ramesh's connection will be charged 1paise/second whether he calls a local or STD number, without any add-on plan whatsoever. The situations where we need an add-on pack in Tata DoCoMo is: #1. When we want to call local 'on-net' (all Tata mobiles) at 1paise/2sec (adding up as 30paise/min), we can subscribe to local on-net pack. #2. If we buy the connection after promotional offer period, we'lll be charged 2paise/sec for a STD call and we can add-on a STD pack to get 1paise/sec for STD also. #3. If we buy the connection in the promotion period, but exceeded the first 27,000 seconds limit, we can again subscribe to STD add-on. Comments are welcome... Edited July 7, 2009 by bhargavachandra Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shashank 8 Report post Posted July 7, 2009 Don't know why they are taking so long to launch in Karnataka.. I find their IVR pretty confusing..Anyways hope they improve it as they launch their services.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
savramesh 37 Report post Posted July 7, 2009 Don't know why they are taking so long to launch in Karnataka..I find their IVR pretty confusing..Anyways hope they improve it as they launch their services.. may be they dont want to be like RGSM launch.. so delaying till everything is perfect from their end.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
savramesh 37 Report post Posted July 7, 2009 (edited) A detailed Calculation % of std calls 84.39 % % of local calls 15.61 % Charged by docomo 1p/1sec for local and std = Rs 18.58 If pulse is 1min and charge is 60p/1min then i will be charged = Rs 21.60 Amount saved by docomo = 21.60 - 18.58 = Rs 3.02 % saved = 3.02/21.6*100 = 13.9815 % If local is Re1/1min and std is Rs1.5/1min then i will be charged = Rs 50.50 [basic tariff of all operators without rate cutters] Amount saved while comparing with basic tariff = 50.50 - 18.58 = Rs 31.92 % saved = 31.92/50.50*100 = 63.2079 % I will record all call charges for one month.. then we shall have a calculation with a rate cutter.. Edited July 7, 2009 by savramesh Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vvinayakpai 26 Report post Posted July 7, 2009 A late launch is fine as long as it does not repeat the same mistakes commited by RCOM GSM. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bhargavachandra 3 Report post Posted July 7, 2009 A detailed Calculation% of std calls 84.39 % % of local calls 15.61 % Charged by docomo 1p/1sec for local and std = Rs 18.58 If pulse is 1min and charge is 60p/1min then i will be charged = Rs 21.60 Amount saved by docomo = 21.60 - 18.58 = Rs 3.02 % saved = 3.02/21.6*100 = 13.9815 % If local is Re1/1min and std is Rs1.5/1min then i will be charged = Rs 50.50 [basic tariff of all operators without rate cutters] Amount saved while comparing with basic tariff = 50.50 - 18.58 = Rs 31.92 % saved = 31.92/50.50*100 = 63.2079 % I will record all call charges for one month.. then we shall have a calculation with a rate cutter.. Wonderful explanation, Mr. Ramesh! Extensive details and all possible combinations rolled into a single post. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lostjournal 7 Report post Posted July 7, 2009 DoCoMo TV Commercials : Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bhargavachandra 3 Report post Posted July 7, 2009 (edited) DoCoMo TV Commercials : Thank you so much for the Video links, Mr. Sonam Kumar! Edited July 7, 2009 by bhargavachandra Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
savramesh 37 Report post Posted July 7, 2009 DoCoMo TV Commercials : Thanks a lot......... exactly what i wanted Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bhargavachandra 3 Report post Posted July 7, 2009 (edited) Dear Members, A new tool has been added to the website. Click here for the link. Please ignore this if you are already aware of this feature. Edited July 7, 2009 by bhargavachandra Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
savramesh 37 Report post Posted July 7, 2009 One more video Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
me_saket 73 Report post Posted July 7, 2009 NEW GPRS plan introduced GPRS Internet Browsing No Rental Flat charging Plan 1p/1kb on Tata home network 10p/10kb on Tata and non-tata roaming network. Rs 99 Per month with 100 MB Free data usage 1p/1kb on Tata home network. 10p/10kb on Tata and non-tata roaming network. u can find it in postpaid section Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lostjournal 7 Report post Posted July 7, 2009 NEW GPRS plan introducedGPRS Internet Browsing No Rental Flat charging Plan 1p/1kb on Tata home network 10p/10kb on Tata and non-tata roaming network. Rs 99 Per month with 100 MB Free data usage 1p/1kb on Tata home network. 10p/10kb on Tata and non-tata roaming network. u can find it in postpaid section That is there for past 3-4 days. But the postpaid services are still not open to the consumers here in Kerala. Also no such plans for prepaid where majority of the customers are.. Somehow I feel tata plans to make money through VAS as their call rates are dead cheap. I tried I-Channel. Unfortunately my phone is not supported(nokia e71). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
me_saket 73 Report post Posted July 7, 2009 DoCoMo TV Commercials : One more video THANK YOU TO BOTH. I LIKED CAT, BALANCE VERY MUCH, I WATCH THAT ATLEAST 10TIMES. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vvinayakpai 26 Report post Posted July 8, 2009 (edited) At the launch of Tata Docomo, it was said that the South Indian circles would go live within a fortnight from the day the Chennai services were launched (Refer to the first article in this topic). If that deadline is to be met, Tata will have to launch their services in Puducherry, AP and Karnataka by July 8th, 2009 Keeping fingers crossed and expecting the Karnataka launch very soon Edited July 8, 2009 by vvinayakpai Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ravi_patent 28 Report post Posted July 8, 2009 Dear Pai the waiting may be worth waiting for! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
anshu_s09 18 Report post Posted July 8, 2009 yes lets hope waitng to be worth for still remember RGSM........... launched all over inida, without network and call conectivity.................. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
