deepu 0 Report post Posted November 26, 2004 NEW DELHI: In a shocking incident of abuse of cellphones by children, a student of a leading public school in the city filmed a sexually explicit visual of a girl, from the same institution, with a camera phone, which he then circulated as MMS. Both the boy and the girl, as well as eight other students of Delhi Public School, R K Puram, have been suspended for carrying cellphones to school, sources said. The school has also issued a 15-point guideline for parents and children, especially barring the students from bringing cellphones to school, the sources said. The video clip, depicting the girl in a sexual act, was messaged by the boy to his friends and it got circulated to students in other schools. Repeated attempts were made to contact the Principal Shyama Chona, but in vain. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chandramauli 0 Report post Posted November 26, 2004 (edited) a perfect example of mis-using technology .... ___ schools these days should focus more on morals .... why would students at such a young age need a cell phone to school... i think a law should be formed saying cell phones ARE gadets that are only for adults (ppl who start earning on their own, and rely on their parents money) ___ Edited November 26, 2004 by chandramauli Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
raccoon 53 Report post Posted November 26, 2004 Man has long believed that laws will curb "misdeeds". Hasn't worked till now ...else we would be in paradise! Cellphones only for adults ...because of such incidences??? Now thats like throwing the baby with the bathwater! Besides you think adults will not do something similar ...or worse? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
deepu 0 Report post Posted November 26, 2004 I agree with racoon... I have come across lots of cases where even adults misusing their camera phones... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
coolkushi 0 Report post Posted November 26, 2004 Hey Guys... that rkpuram scandal video is available all over the net... Just search and you will find it.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chandramauli 0 Report post Posted November 26, 2004 well i have come accross very very few ppl (adults) who misuse their cam phone ...but plenty students who misuse it ...not in terms of cam only. ..but thru sms/ems/mms ... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ashokjp 15 Report post Posted November 26, 2004 Good brains for bad purpose Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
StaticElectricity 8 Report post Posted November 26, 2004 oh c'mon, ban atom bombs not cellphones!! well, let me say, anyone who is earning >> age 21 (at least) tell me, how many ppl follow the rule of the driving licence? (atleast 18 ) tell me, how many ppl follow the no-alcohol under 21 limit?? no-body. putting a law, means legally breaking the law... especially cellphones, which are now such an integral part of our life. gimme an answer for this, u can ban cellphones, not their misuse, if a thing exists, the human mind is such that it will (mis)use it. there's no solution to this, if ppl want to abuse it, they will, and will by many many ingenius methods, u cant stop it, no one can. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mumbain 0 Report post Posted November 27, 2004 we all misuse modern techno it yaar... aur thodi chalta bhi hai... tell me how many dont watch porn.. yeah some would say occasionally... but they do watch... so misusing is good enough if its done on small scale and not much bad intention... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Beetle 0 Report post Posted November 27, 2004 (edited) By CODEs technique, you can send MMS from any number 093xxxxxxx@rmms.ricmail.com, now can I send Static to jail Send an explict pic to a girl/guy with <statics number>@rmms.ricmail.com Edited November 28, 2004 by Arun Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
raccoon 53 Report post Posted November 27, 2004 (edited) By CODEs technique, you can send MMS from any number 093xxxxxxx@rmms.ricmail.com, now can I send Static to jail Send an explict pic to a girl/guy with <statics number>@rmms.ricmail.comGanesh (or any other Mod) I am posting this second time, dont delete my posts. This is not CLONING. 20414[/snapback] EEPROM, as usual you have raised a very intresting point! Perhaps that poor boy never sent the alleged stuff ....perhaps he was framed? Hmm ...perhaps you framed him? Reminds me about the story of the celebrated American geek Patrick Naughton (co dev. of Sun Java) & the child porno case ...and the way he argued how porn came on his comp, unbeknown to him! As technology gets more complex, you can fix stuff so that it can get very diffiuclt to prove things 'beyond reasonable doubt'... Edited November 27, 2004 by raccoon Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Beetle 0 Report post Posted November 28, 2004 (edited) EEPROM, as usual you have raised a very intresting point! Perhaps that poor boy never sent the alleged stuff ....perhaps he was framed? Hmm ...perhaps you framed him? Reminds me about the story of the celebrated American geek Patrick Naughton (co dev. of Sun Java) & the child porno case ...and the way he argued how porn came on his comp, unbeknown to him! As technology gets more complex, you can fix stuff so that it can get very diffiuclt to prove things 'beyond reasonable doubt'... What I mentioned is a true security flaw, but unfortunately my posts were deleted. Its been happening many a times. Any ways, for those who do not know, there is a slight difference. Say my no. 09333333333 is and I send a MMS from my phone to Raccoon. He will get a MMS as from 09333333333 or from EEPROM (as in phone book). But if I send an SMS from Statics number 09342042042 by CODES technique, Racoon will get an MMS as 09242042042@rmms.ricmail.com In other words, Static is safe. But enough to send anonymous messages or send spoof mails!!! Well, this is possible in GSM also. Edited November 28, 2004 by EEPROM Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Puneet 0 Report post Posted November 28, 2004 What I mentioned is a true security flaw, but unfortunately my posts were deleted. Its been happening many a times. Any ways, for those who do not know, there is a slight difference.Say my no. 09333333333 is and I send a MMS from my phone to Raccoon. He will get a MMS as from 09333333333 or from EEPROM (as in phone book). But if I send an SMS from Statics number 09342042042 by CODES technique, Racoon will get an MMS as 09242042042@rmms.ricmail.com In other words, Static is safe. But enough to send anonymous messages or send spoof mails!!! Well, this is possible in GSM also. 20479[/snapback] In my opinion it is as much a security flaw as is all the span inundating our mailboxes these days. In case the spoofed MMS is of such nature that its sender has to be traced and booked, it can be done by tracing the MMS through the header information. we are using email so the headers have to be there, though we might not see them on the phone but they will be there on Reliance servers (though there are ways to circumvent that too ) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chandramauli 0 Report post Posted November 28, 2004 (edited) there's no solution to this, if ppl want to abuse it, they will, and will by many many ingenius methods,u cant stop it, no one can. btw ..theres a law to misusing ur cell phone and can get you in jail for abt 3 yrs ... thats a diffrent story then our govt isnt bothered much ... but we as a citizen should be responsible to avoid such humilating things tht some ppl do using their cell phones ... Edited November 29, 2004 by chandramauli Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chirag 5 Report post Posted November 28, 2004 a pretty sad thing thts struck india now as well! Delhi school sex video now on Internet By: Shradha Sukumaran November 28, 2004 Mid-day.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The Delhi schoolgirl video controversy has now blown into India’s own Paris Hilton-Rick Solomon story. The sexually-explicit footage was shot by the girl’s own classmate on his mobile phone and circulated in schools all over the city about two weeks ago. Now, the home video has surfaced on the net, in different porn sites. According to the link, nearly 29,000 surfers have already viewed the video, many of whom have posted their comments on the girl “in the white school uniform”. The clip shocked Delhi schools and parents, prompting a debate into allowing children to have camera-enabled phones. Both the girl and the boy were expelled from Delhi Public School, but the video has already passed through hundreds of students in the capital. With it now posted on the web, this Delhi schoolgirl is now infamous. Camera-enabled phones have already become controversial all over the world. Japan has taken note of phone-stalkers, the US is coming down on “up-skirt” pictures, UK has forbidden it in strip clubs and theatres, and countries like Saudi Arabia and Kuwait have banned it. Although hoteliers in Mumbai are considering banning camera-enabled cell phones from the private areas of hotels such as swimming pools, saunas, spas and changing rooms due to privacy concerns, the phones itself are only catching on in India now. According to the Asian School of Cyberlaws in Pune, it is because of this that mobile phone videos posted on pornsites is a new phenomenon. In this case, as the girl is underage, the issue also enters the realm of child pornography. “This falls into the Section 67 of the Information Technology Act. Its sentence is five years of imprisonment for the first offence, or a fine of Rs 1 lakh and ten years of imprisonment for every subsequent offence, or a fine of Rs 2 lakh,” says Vicky Jaiswal, head of education and consultation at the Asian School, adding that this sentence is irrespective of whether it is a child pornographic act. This is the sentence for electronic pornography. However, Jaiswal points out that it is difficult to keep track or monitor these clips because there are almost four crore pornographic websites. “Often, the lady in the clip has no clue that her picture is on the net.” Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ashokjp 15 Report post Posted November 28, 2004 Has he thogt of the gals life before the mischief ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ashokjp 15 Report post Posted November 28, 2004 A report by Telegraph India Scandal in school shakes up Delhi AYSWARIA VENUGOPAL New Delhi: Sex may not exactly be new in posh Delhi schools. Now there’s sex and the cellphone. Two Class XI students had sex on their school premises and shot it with a mobile phone enabled with multimedia messaging service, or MMS. Parents and teachers were shocked by news of the incident, but for the past month, a video of three to four minutes’ duration has been the most widely known secret at Delhi Public School, R.K. Puram. “I really feel sad for the girl. Maybe she was drunk or doped when it was happening. Or maybe she just got into bad company,” said a student. The video is said to have explicit footage of the two students — they should be 17 years of age — engaging in sex. The girl’s face is reportedly visible in the clip that has been circulating among students, passing from one MMS-enabled equipment — camera phone in popular parlance — to another. Some are believed to have downloaded the video from some Internet sites. Principal Shyama Chona was not available for comment, despite repeated attempts. Yesterday, she had told a TV channel that “disciplinary action had been initiated”. Both students come from affluent backgrounds — the boy is from a business family and the girl’s father is said to be in the services. The school has put up a notice warning parents and students against bringing mobile phones. Anyone caught with a cellphone on the premises will face confiscation and a Rs 1,000 penalty. It is not clear what disciplinary action has been taken against the two students. A shocked Springdales School principal and National Progressive Schools chairperson, Jyoti Bose, said society, including parents, has to confront the question of sex in schools. “There is a larger issue about the content of the MMS. Though we haven’t discussed it in our meetings but after this incident, I think it has to be addressed,” she said. Once the incident came to light, separate lunch breaks have been started at DPS RK Puram — one for students of Classes XI and XII and another for the rest of the school — so that the authorities can keep a close eye on their wards. It may, however, be too late to insulate the rest of the school from the scandal as the authorities were the last to find out. A student of the school said: “It is not as if these incidents don’t happen in other schools. Just because of what one person did all of us are being branded. I think what my mother said when she heard about it sums it all up. She told me that I should change my school.” The statement merely confirms the fact that sex does take place in Delhi’s schools — and if it’s happening in the capital, there’s no reason to believe other cities are immune — in which case changing schools will not help. Bose said: “We do not allow students below Class XI to bring mobile phones to school. Those who bring cannot use it on the school premises. I can understand the parents’ paranoia about their children, particularly as they have to use DTC (Delhi Transport Corporation) buses to get home.” Worried and well-off parents have given their children cellphones — to make contact in an emergency. But then they also send their children to school for a purpose other than sex. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Arun 795 Report post Posted November 29, 2004 And a pervert (don't want to mention his name) in this forum even posted his FTP account details here (which I deleted) asking someone to upload the video for him ! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chandramauli 0 Report post Posted November 29, 2004 common guys.. mis(use) of technology is an integral part ofl life.. cell phones should not be banned for such silly reasons.. may be its more of a positive use Camera-enabled phones have already become controversial all over the world.Japan has taken note of phone-stalkers, the US is coming down on “up-skirt” pictures, UK has forbidden it in strip clubs and theatres, and countries like Saudi Arabia and Kuwait have banned it. everything is possible if we want it not misused and avoid such pervert acts ... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
deepu 0 Report post Posted December 1, 2004 DPS porn-maker kid 'sold' clips TIMESOFINDIA.COM[ WEDNESDAY, DECEMBER 01, 2004 12:52:04 PM ] NEW DELHI: So, there's yet another interesting revelation in the infamous pornographic mobile phone video case involving two Delhi Public School students, for which both of them were expelled. The boy "sold the clip" to his batch mates for "Rs 100 each," a "close friend" reveals. The incident had happened a little over a month ago, when two eleventh standard students of DPS RK Puram, a top south Delhi school, had filmed their sex act on the boy's mobile phone "just for kicks". It was only last week that the episode was exposed in newspapers and TV channels across India after the Multimedia Messaging Service (MMS) of the 2 minutes 37 seconds clip was doing rounds all over the Capital. "They were seeing each other when they shot the film on his mobile phone a month ago," a close friend and classmate of the boy's says. "But the girl broke up with him a few days later. She said the relationship wasn't working out. In anger, he started sending out the clip via MMS and e-mail." Not for free though. "He charged Rs 100 for the clip, in which his face is hardly seen. It's only the girl clearly visible," he says. "He made a lot of money. But it wasn't for the money that he did this obviously. Money was just supposed to be by the way." "He sold the clip to at least 50 of us (batchmates). After that, the others sent it out their friends and so on. Now probably every phone in Delhi and many other parts of the country has the clip," the friend says. As a matter of fact, VCDs of the porn clip are being sold at Palika Bazaar, arguably Delhi's porn den, for a meagre Rs 40. And according to shop owners, it's getting them "great business." Both the students, the girl, daughter of an ex-army man, and the boy, who comes from a wealthy family, were expelled when the MMS, which was fast spreading, reached the Principal of the school. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Beetle 0 Report post Posted December 2, 2004 Common guys..! What happended to freedom of expression. Its a natural thing. People having sex. Sex is good. .! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sharan 0 Report post Posted December 2, 2004 Hello All, Please let me know the website where this video is available. I want to see this video. Thanks Sherry Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shabz 8 Report post Posted December 2, 2004 Yeah EEPROM you r right sex is good but it is good indoors you do not go out in public for sex and sharan we wont provide link for that video in this forum u will have ot search the net for urself to find it and there is a high possibility that u will find it Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ashokjp 15 Report post Posted December 2, 2004 Hi sharan, This is not the place to distribute illegal stuffs. So its gud u seek help somewhere else Share this post Link to post Share on other sites