ravi_patent 28 Report post Posted May 29, 2010 http://www.sakaaltimes.com/SakaalTimesBeta/20100528/4952124951197941098.htm Following the auction of spectrum for GSM mobile service providers, government of India is likely to undertake a similar exercise for releasing spectrum to CDMA service providers. Recently, the country witnessed first 3G spectrum auction for GSM service providers. The availability of spectrum will enable mobile operators to provide new services like TV on mobile, games, and music, while also improving voice quality and reducing call drops. “Currently, we are offering second generation (2G) services, which are on par with 3G service. But like GSM operators, we too are looking at further upgrading our services, for which we have to migrate to next generation technology, which is 3G. We are in talks with the government. We expect that a similar auction of spectrum for CDMA operators will happen in next six months to one year,” Deputy Chief Executive Officer, Sistema Shyam Tele Services Limited (SSTL) T Narasimhan told Sakal Times. SSTL, a joint venture between Sistema of Russia and the Shyam Group of India owns the CDMA mobile telephony brand MTS. The government has earned Rs 67,719 crore as its share of the revenue from the spectrum bid. In all, 71 3G slots were allocated over 22 telecom divisions in the country. However, Narasimhan said that for CDMA spectrum auction, the government may not earn such high amount. “The CDMA players are much lesser in number than GSM players, the number of bidders will be very less. This in turn may result in lesser revenues for the government. However, everything depends upon the spectrum available. We will go for very high speed services up to 7 mbps,” he said. The availability of more spectrum for CDMA players not only means enhanced services, but also saving more capital expenditure. “CDMA by its definition is better spectrum efficient technology. In case of data card, 2G GSM can't give more than 200 kbps speed, hence the user will not get broadband experience. CDMA 2G speed is 3.1 mbps. After availability of spectrum, GSM downloading speed can go up to 5 mbps. CDMA speed can reach up to 7 mbps. So the CDMA players will always have an upper edge over GSM service providers,” Chief Operating Officer of Mumbai, Maharashtra and Goa, SSTL, Suubodh Kumar Srivastava said. GOING HIGH Shrivastata said that the CDMA players are currently operating on 800 Mhz bandwidth and are looking at functioning at 1900 Mhz after release of spectrum Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Greatest 55 Report post Posted May 29, 2010 7mbps... good for people like us in rimweb... Good find ravi.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
parin 857 Report post Posted May 29, 2010 That'sa good news but if reliance allows foreign handsets to get EVDO facilities it would be better for rimweb guys Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kesav 127 Report post Posted May 29, 2010 (edited) Come on TRAI and DoT, it's your duty to release 3G spectrum to CDMA operators. It must happen in sync with realease of 3G spectrum for GSM operators (i.e. 1st September 2010). Eagerly Eagerly waiting for EvDO Rev. B in India Edited May 29, 2010 by kesav Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
::Hitesh:: 1,763 Report post Posted May 29, 2010 7Mbps Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
D0N 0 Report post Posted May 29, 2010 “CDMA by its definition is better spectrum efficient technology. In case of data card, 2G GSM can't give more than 200 kbps speed, hence the user will not get broadband experience. CDMA 2G speed is 3.1 mbps. After availability of spectrum, GSM downloading speed can go up to 5 mbps. CDMA speed can reach up to 7 mbps. So the CDMA players will always have an upper edge over GSM service providers,” Chief Operating Officer of Mumbai, Maharashtra and Goa, SSTL, Suubodh Kumar Srivastava said. EV-DO Rev. B provides higher rates per carrier (up to 4.9 Mbit/s on the downlink per carrier). I wonder how they will attain 7 mbps as Qualcomm has ended the development of the proposed next generation of CDMA tech (Ultra Mobile Broadband or UMB) in November 2008, as most CDMA carriers chose to adopt the competing 3GPP Long Term Evolution (LTE) standard. (Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolution-Data_Optimized ) Can some of the experts comment on the same? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
imshyam 0 Report post Posted May 29, 2010 Wohaaa 7 MBPS ! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pasumark 51 Report post Posted May 30, 2010 another Dream Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
raccoon 53 Report post Posted May 30, 2010 Don't drool so much before you know the details guys! It will probably come with a 1 - 2 GB FAIR USAGE Policy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KAPILKDEV 68 Report post Posted May 30, 2010 Waiting for CDMA 3G Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
::Hitesh:: 1,763 Report post Posted May 30, 2010 3g=evdo rev 0/A 4g= evdo rev B Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kesav 127 Report post Posted June 1, 2010 “CDMA by its definition is better spectrum efficient technology. In case of data card, 2G GSM can't give more than 200 kbps speed, hence the user will not get broadband experience. CDMA 2G speed is 3.1 mbps. After availability of spectrum, GSM downloading speed can go up to 5 mbps. CDMA speed can reach up to 7 mbps. So the CDMA players will always have an upper edge over GSM service providers,” Chief Operating Officer of Mumbai, Maharashtra and Goa, SSTL, Suubodh Kumar Srivastava said. EV-DO Rev. B provides higher rates per carrier (up to 4.9 Mbit/s on the downlink per carrier). I wonder how they will attain 7 mbps as Qualcomm has ended the development of the proposed next generation of CDMA tech (Ultra Mobile Broadband or UMB) in November 2008, as most CDMA carriers chose to adopt the competing 3GPP Long Term Evolution (LTE) standard. (Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolution-Data_Optimized ) Can some of the experts comment on the same? my dear friend don't confuse between EvDO Rev. B and UMB (Ultra Mobile Broadband). Rev. B is 3G but UMB is 4G. UMB was initially thought to be competitor for LTE(an another 4G technology). Qualcomm has dropped only UMB and certainly not Rev. B The following 2 articles will give you more confidence. ZTE claims successful deployment of world’s first Commercial EV-DO Rev’B network ZTE Corp today claimed that it has successfully deployed the world’s first commercial EV-DO (Evolution Data Optimized) Rev.B network for Indonesia’s CDMA operator Smart Telecom. Qualcomm was also involved in the project. The network went live in Bali and 48 CDMA base stations have been deployed in the first phase. The networks are capable of offering average download speed of 8.6Mbps to a peak download speed of 9.3Mbps. For the project, ZTE has used its SDR (Software Defined Radio) platform-based EV-DO Rev.B solution. “EV-DO Rev.B network is now commercially available, and only in the Bali Denpasar area,” said Mr. Sutikno Widjaja, President Director of Smart Telecom. “Within Q1 2010, all existing base stations in Bali will be upgraded to EV-DO Rev.B and by the end of 2010, Rev.B is expected to be available throughout all major cities in Indonesia. To date, Smart has 32 cities covered with its previous evolution, EV-DO Rev.A which provides the most reliable wireless broadband services at download speed of up to 3.1 Mbps.” “It’s an honour for ZTE to cooperate with Smart Telecom to deploy the first EV-DO Rev.B technology in Indonesia, and the world,” said Mr. Cuiyi, President, Asia Pacific Region, ZTE Corporation. “I would like to extend my warmest congratulations to Smart Telecom on becoming the world’s first operator providing commercial EV-DO Rev.B services to its customers. Largely attributable to Smart Telecom’s strong track record for technology development and deployment and its reputation for high levels of service, Indonesian people are now benefiting from experience the most advanced EV-DO data services in the world.” “Together with Smart Telecom, we're glad to launch the world’s first commercial EV-DO Rev.B network in Indonesia. The network will offer unparalleled high-speed broadband data access services to Smart Telecom’s subscribers,” said Mr. Hou Zhengzhi, Managing Director, President of ZTE Mobile Telecom, when receiving the plaque of appreciation, under witness of officials from Economy Division of Communications and Information Department of Indonesia and Local Book of Record (MURI) of Indonesia. source :: http://www.telecomtiger.com/fullstory.aspx?storyid=8178 Sprint, Verizon rolling out EV-DO Rev. B? There’s some interesting statements coming out of Telecom Pragmatics this morning, as the research firm is saying that Sprint (NYSE: S) and Verizon (NYSE: VZ) aren’t putting all its eggs in the 4G basket and plan to roll out 3G based on EV-DO Rev. B technology. Unlike 4G networks, EV-DO Rev. B could use the existing infrastructure to deliver a little bit faster mobile data than what Sprint and Verizon currently offer with 3G. The research firm’s study said the carriers may roll out its 4G networks in certain parts of the country while using the updated 3G for other parts. The only problem with this, according to Telecom Pragmatics, is that is could require different chips in handsets to work. I’m still waiting on official word from Sprint and Verizon but this makes a certain degree of sense. The companies are hard at work pushing out 4G services and networks – Sprint is currently using WiMax and Verizon is making an aggressive push to roll out a next-generation mobile data network based on Long-Term Evolution. Sprint is about to roll out the first U.S. smartphone capable of taking advantage with the EVO 4G and Verizon could have up to five LTE handsets by this time next year. But it takes a lot of time and money to cover the United States with ubiquitous mobile data – the 3G rollout essentially began a decade ago and we’re not at 100% coverage yet. It’s only prudent for Sprint, Verizon and other carriers to have a backup network if you leave a 4G region. Additionally, it would be smart of these companies to leverage its existing 3G infrastructures and investments as much as possible. So, whatever the technology behind it is, 3G is not going away anytime soon. It’s always so much more fun to think about 10 Mbps on the go because it opens up a world of possibilities. Check out our 4G mobile shootout for some more information of the next generation of mobile data networks. (Update Just heard word from Verizon’s Brenda Raney and, like I suspected, there’s no official confirmation or denial of EV-DO Rev. B. Love the response though. source:: http://www.intomobile.com/2010/05/18/sprint-verizon-rolling-out-ev-do-rev-b.html Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
csmart 472 Report post Posted June 1, 2010 but then will RCOM/Tata will spend or bid for CDMA? they have already paid a lot for GSM.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kesav 127 Report post Posted June 1, 2010 Certainly they'll. Since only 3 operators(MTS,TATA,Reliance) are in the queque, they may get it at very cheaper rate. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
commonman 228 Report post Posted June 1, 2010 (edited) considering that MTS and TATA already have a network sharing agreement, the chances of the three forming a cartel and bidding very low is very much possible. Edited June 1, 2010 by commonman Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kesav 127 Report post Posted June 2, 2010 RComm writes to Raja, says Trai plan to dent CDMA growth The country’s second-largest telecom service provider, Reliance Communications, (RComm) has written to the minister of communications and IT, A Raja, saying the recent recommendations by Trai do not create a level-playing field between GSM and CDMA service providers. RComm provides services both in GSM and CDMA technologies. “By not recommending the evolution path and having lower limits of spectrum for CDMA operators, the authority has created a non level playing field and has overlooked the growth aspirations of CDMA operators. This is not in line with the technology neutrality policy of the government followed so far,” A N Sethuraman, group president, said in a letter. The company said that Trai has not provided details of vacation of spectrum in 800, 450, and 1900 Mhz bands which would provide extra spectrum for meeting the requirements of 2G and EVDO of CDMA operators. It added, “In spite of our various requests, the DoT has not included the auctioning of 800 Mhz band for EVDO operations which is a forward path for the CDMA operators.” source :: http://www.financialexpress.com/news/RComm-writes-to-Raja--says-Trai-plan-to-dent-CDMA-growth/628006/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kesav 127 Report post Posted June 15, 2010 We're at the end of successful auction of 3G & 4G spectrum. Now it's time for the TRAI and DoT to act on policy matters. In case of DoT, there are recommendations lying in its table on VoIP provided by TRAI. DoT...Can you please dust it before it becomes fodder for termites. TRAI.....It's high time for you to provide recommendations on auctioning extra carriers for EVDO. It'll help CDMA players to start EVDO Rev. B. Regulations are like medicine. It's important for it be dosed at right time at right quantity. Hope TRAI and DoT listening..... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HetalDP 947 Report post Posted June 15, 2010 Well Rev B means Combining Multiple Channel Carrier to one and Achieve Higher Speed Here Reliance TATA MTS will only enable one more 1.25 mhz Carrier and Handset will Connect Dual ( 1.25 x2 ) so achiving Double the Speed it like using Two Broadband Connection with Bandwidth Combined Technology nothing New. Same this Happens to HSPA and other Network. ( Multiple Carrier Connect ) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites