manivannan 0 Report post Posted December 23, 2004 (edited) I have an LG 5130 handset and bought a USB cable from a third-party via Baazee.com (seller:Nisha@IndCables.com). The cable works for PC sync (only for contacts etc. not for pictures or ringtones). But I am not able to install the RConnect dialer software. I am using Windows XP without Service pack 2. The software fails immediately after installing the USB driver (3.0). When I connect the phone after that step and install the driver given with the cable the RConnect software is not able to establish the connection with the phone. The phone modem is not listed under Modems (Control Panel -> Phones and Modems) either. I have tried uninstall/reinstall several times. The USB port is working fine. The cable seems to be ok (it transfers data for syncing contacts). What else could be wrong ? Can anyone please help ? Thanks, mani Edited December 23, 2004 by manivannan Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vamshik 0 Report post Posted December 24, 2004 I had a similar problem too. This cable was made for 7130 and it works for 5130 also. The R connect software recognizes if you connect 7130 and it also installs modem drivers, but when you connect 5130 it refuses to recognnize. I had a lot of problems while I was trying this out with my 5130. I normally dont use R connect as I have a cable internet at home so I gave up. Try getting 7130 if anyone around you has, to install the modem drivers and it shd work for 5130 too .. Check this and lemme know if it worked ... Vamshi Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jaineshpranay 0 Report post Posted December 27, 2004 i m having the same prob as i bought USB cable for LG RD5130,but i fail to install the driver ,can any one help me jainesh I had a similar problem too. This cable was made for 7130 and it works for 5130 also. The R connect software recognizes if you connect 7130 and it also installs modem drivers, but when you connect 5130 it refuses to recognnize.I had a lot of problems while I was trying this out with my 5130. I normally dont use R connect as I have a cable internet at home so I gave up. Try getting 7130 if anyone around you has, to install the modem drivers and it shd work for 5130 too .. Check this and lemme know if it worked ... Vamshi 22727[/snapback] Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
amke721 0 Report post Posted December 27, 2004 Man even i am having the same problem that you have said for my lg 2030. The third party cable seems to be ok too. I even tried going to the web world but they told me that there must be a problem with the software as its not authorised. Well then i contacted one of my electronic enggineer friend who is a expert at this and he told me that reliance uses some kind of a software protection mechanism and a duplicate copy of software does not work!!!! So know i am stuck with the unusable cable. I hope that there is some sort of crack available to make this work OR any other methods any one here knows. Please tell me if any one knows about this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
manivannan 0 Report post Posted December 30, 2004 (edited) Has anyone successfully installed RConnect with the same handset/cable/OS combination as above ? Do the third-party USB cables work at all ? Edited December 30, 2004 by manivannan Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
manivannan 0 Report post Posted January 28, 2005 As a continuation of my previous posting... I got my cable changed by the seller. Now I got a USB cable from a company called Enter Multimedia. The RConnect dialer installation failed at the same step as above (Phone was not added as a modem). But I installed a standard 33,600 bit modem to the same port in which the phone is connected. When I tried to dial (744) the phone displays "Modem data" but dialing does not succeed. The dialer says that the modem or the remote computer is out of order. How to fix this problem ? Can anyone please help ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vishal Gupta 4 Report post Posted January 28, 2005 May be LG 5130 also add some Extra Initialization String in its Modem settings while installing RConnect s/w, as it adds in case of FWP? cauz if we install a modem for FWP using windows add hardware wizard and not add that extra string, then FWP also shows such thing Modem Data on its screen. So if someone else also using RConnect with LG 5130, can confirm this by going into Modem settings and see under Extra Initialization String!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shuva_nandi 0 Report post Posted January 30, 2005 I am also facing the same the problem with 5130. Someone please find a remedy. Is the same problem happening with a reliance authorised cable ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dacodecz 0 Report post Posted January 31, 2005 Man even i am having the same problem that you have said for my lg 2030. The third party cable seems to be ok too. I even tried going to the web world but they told me that there must be a problem with the software as its not authorised.       Well then i contacted one of my electronic enggineer friend who is a expert at this and he told me that reliance uses some kind of a software protection mechanism and a duplicate copy of software does not work!!!!        So know i am stuck with the unusable cable. I hope that there is some sort of crack available to make this work OR any other methods any one here knows.    Please tell me if any one knows about this 22969[/snapback] Dear friend, Reliance not uses any sort of hardware protection mechanism at all in it's rconnect software. Rconnect software merely create a internet account and serve frontend for it, and also provide some data transfer statsics, the only unusual thing it do is that it send some phone specific modem initialization string when it try to connect the internet. Well it would be really helpfull if you can provide some more details about the chipset being used in your usb to serial converter, what driver you're using for it and what virtual com port it creates after getting installed. Remember these phones dont have native usb interface it can only be connected to serial port and this usb cables just provides the same. From phone end, it can never know what sort of serial port it's trying to talk to. BTW all lg cdma modem are peeky about AT command set, they even dont have all the AT commands implemented as defined by the CDMA standard and from my experience it seems that os of the phone who is responsible for providing virtual modem services is'nt robust enough to handle the situation when your application try to send it some un-implemented AT command. So from my opinion stick to the modem initialization strings as provided in the reliance software and while configuring you modem always select the com port as provided by the usb cable. If it all fails then you can be sure that your cable is broken, vendor may have used some cheap cable or internal parts and there may be some timing probelms because of cheap crystal they have opt for. Feel free for further query. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
manivannan 0 Report post Posted January 31, 2005 (edited) Thanks Dacodecz. Can anyone using 5130 and USB cable with Windows XP please provide details of the extra modem-initialization commands ? (Go to Control Panel -> Phones & Modems; Select the Modems tab; Locate the Reliance Phone modem and click on Properties. Select the Advanced tab and copy the text from the box "Extra Initialization Commands". Please let me know if this box is empty. Edited January 31, 2005 by manivannan Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shuva_nandi 0 Report post Posted January 31, 2005 Has anyone used R-connect with 5130.... with a third party cable. Since all of us here are stuck with third party cable only. Has anyone faced the difficulty using a reliance authorised cable as well. I tried to install in Win 98, where also the same problem is happening. Please tell me how to check whether the cable is faulty or there is some problem with the drivers or software ? I am using a cable from Netcom.... with files downloaded from www.relianceinfo.com . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Arun 795 Report post Posted January 31, 2005 I don't think there is any problem with the software/driver from relianceinfo.com , it must be the third party cable that is the problem as I know a person using RD 5130 R-Connect with original data cable on Windows XP, without any problem. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dacodecz 0 Report post Posted February 1, 2005 Can anyone using 5130 and USB cable with Windows XP please provide details of the extra modem-initialization commands ? (Go to Control Panel -> Phones & Modems; Select the Modems tab; Locate the Reliance Phone modem and click on Properties. Select the Advanced tab and copy the text from the box "Extra Initialization Commands". Please let me know if this box is empty. 25706[/snapback] Dear manivannan, I am afraid you will find none, because it's send directly to the RAS of ms OS through the TAPI api by the rconnect software, they don't maintain persistant information in the standard places. Ummm any api snooper for the ms OS can give you the details about the initialization string. Sorry I dont have LG 5130 phone, BTW I guess "ATZ;AT+CTA=30" would be enough if they are using qualcomm's chipset, as in RD 2030/2130. Another thing is the strict timing requirements needed by the modem, by this I mean modem takes some time to responsd when you send some AT command, now if your modem is not following the standard timing requirements then you really gonna have some headache configuring it. Can you post your modem log, you can find it in c:/windows or c:/winnt directory, it must be somthing like "ModemLog_Standard 28800 bps Modem.txt". [ms OS == win95,98,2K,XP] Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vishal Gupta 4 Report post Posted February 1, 2005 As i said in my previous post that FWP also shows Modem Data if we don't add some Extra Initialization String in modem settings! May be LG 5130 also add some Extra Initialization String in its Modem settings while installing RConnect s/w, as it adds in case of FWP?cauz if we install a modem for FWP using windows add hardware wizard and not add that extra string, then FWP also shows such thing Modem Data on its screen. So if someone else also using RConnect with LG 5130, can confirm this by going into Modem settings and see under Extra Initialization String!!! The Extra Initialization String for FWP r: AT+CRM=1;$LGPKT=3 U can try this for LG 5130 also! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
manivannan 0 Report post Posted February 3, 2005 (edited) Thanks Dacodecz and Vishal. I tried the modem initialization strings suggested by both of you. Vishal's string didn't work. The dialer reported a hardware failure and quit. Dacodecz' string led to the same old "Modem data" problem. I have copied the modem-log immediately after trying the string suggested by Dacodecz here: 02-03-2005 14:33:37.510 - File: C:\WINDOWS\System32\tapisrv.dll, Version 5.1.2600 02-03-2005 14:33:37.510 - File: C:\WINDOWS\System32\unimdmat.dll, Version 5.1.2600 02-03-2005 14:33:37.510 - File: C:\WINDOWS\System32\drivers\modem.sys, Version 5.1.2600 02-03-2005 14:33:37.510 - File: C:\WINDOWS\System32\mdminst.dll, Version 5.1.2600 02-03-2005 14:33:37.510 - Modem inf path: mdmgen.inf 02-03-2005 14:33:37.510 - Matching hardware ID: mdmgen336 02-03-2005 14:33:37.840 - Initializing modem. 02-03-2005 14:33:37.840 - CTS is low while initializing modem. 02-03-2005 14:33:38.000 - Recv: AT<cr> 02-03-2005 14:33:38.000 - Recv: <cr><lf>OK<cr><lf> 02-03-2005 14:33:38.010 - Send: ATE0V1<cr> 02-03-2005 14:33:38.010 - Command Echo 02-03-2005 14:33:38.010 - Interpreted response: OK 02-03-2005 14:33:38.020 - Recv: <cr><lf>OK<cr><lf> 02-03-2005 14:33:38.020 - Sending user initialization commands. 02-03-2005 14:33:38.481 - Recv: <cr><lf>OK<cr><lf> 02-03-2005 14:33:38.481 - Session Statistics: 02-03-2005 14:33:38.481 - Reads: 13 bytes 02-03-2005 14:33:38.481 - Writes: 27 bytes I do not see anything wrong in this log. But the dialer reports the error (code 777) "modem or other hardware in the remote computer is out of order" and quits. Please see if you can help. Edited February 3, 2005 by manivannan Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dacodecz 0 Report post Posted February 7, 2005 Thanks Dacodecz and Vishal.I tried the modem initialization strings suggested by both of you. Vishal's string didn't work. The dialer reported a hardware failure and quit. Dacodecz' string led to the same old "Modem data" problem. I have copied the modem-log immediately after trying the string suggested by Dacodecz here: 02-03-2005 14:33:37.510 - File: C:\WINDOWS\System32\tapisrv.dll, Version 5.1.2600 02-03-2005 14:33:37.510 - File: C:\WINDOWS\System32\unimdmat.dll, Version 5.1.2600 02-03-2005 14:33:37.510 - File: C:\WINDOWS\System32\drivers\modem.sys, Version 5.1.2600 02-03-2005 14:33:37.510 - File: C:\WINDOWS\System32\mdminst.dll, Version 5.1.2600 02-03-2005 14:33:37.510 - Modem inf path: mdmgen.inf 02-03-2005 14:33:37.510 - Matching hardware ID: mdmgen336 02-03-2005 14:33:37.840 - Initializing modem. 02-03-2005 14:33:37.840 - CTS is low while initializing modem. 02-03-2005 14:33:38.000 - Recv: AT<cr> 02-03-2005 14:33:38.000 - Recv: <cr><lf>OK<cr><lf> 02-03-2005 14:33:38.010 - Send: ATE0V1<cr> 02-03-2005 14:33:38.010 - Command Echo 02-03-2005 14:33:38.010 - Interpreted response: OK 02-03-2005 14:33:38.020 - Recv: <cr><lf>OK<cr><lf> 02-03-2005 14:33:38.020 - Sending user initialization commands. 02-03-2005 14:33:38.481 - Recv: <cr><lf>OK<cr><lf> 02-03-2005 14:33:38.481 - Session Statistics: 02-03-2005 14:33:38.481 -Â Â Â Â Â Â Reads: 13 bytes 02-03-2005 14:33:38.481 -Â Â Â Â Â Â Writes: 27 bytes I do not see anything wrong in this log. But the dialer reports the error (code 777) "modem or other hardware in the remote computer is out of order" and quits. Please see if you can help. 25945[/snapback] Dear manivannan, Hey is it the complete log you are getting ? BTW try this and tell me what it says, in windows open hyperterminal, configure it to talk to the com port your modem is connected on, and then in client area type any key, if communication between your pc and modem is ok than it would say online in the status bar. Now type the commands and see what it says back, while typing command keep the phone infront of you so you can see what is going on. Type it one by one, after each command press enter and see what modem respond to that command. ATZ ATE1V AT&V0 AT&V1 AT+CTA=30 ATDT#777 Watch your phone and see what moden respond for this command. Plz post back the results. Cheers ............. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
manivannan 0 Report post Posted February 8, 2005 Hi Dacodecz, I tried the HyperTerminal experiment you suggested. I connected to the COM port to which the modem had been connected and issued the commands. The modem's responses have been posted in the attached file "Dacodecz_Response.txt". I guess my cable is working fine then. What do you say ? mani Dacodecz_Response.txt Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
manivannan 0 Report post Posted February 8, 2005 Hi Dacodecz, I forgot to mention this in my previous post. The last command I tried is ATDT#744. To this command, I did not get any text on the terminal; but the phone displayed "Modem data" as usual. Btw, which number should we dial to connect using RConnect #777 or #744 ? After issuing this command ATDT#744 I tried to capture the text coming from the modem in a file using the "Capture Text" option under "Transfer" menu in HyperTerminal. But I only got a blank file. mani Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dskumar 13 Report post Posted February 8, 2005 Hi Manivannan, I know these are basics, but did u check the Data Baud rate ? Is it correctly at 115,200. Because for me the Baud rate was set to USB, which I had to change to 115,200 for LG 5130 Also, if your modem driver is installed, did you try connecting using windows dial-up rather than using the r-connect software ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
manivannan 0 Report post Posted February 9, 2005 Hi Kumar, Thanks for your post. I have tried all those basic options. Seems there is some conflict between the driver for my cable and Windows XP. Now I am trying to install the modem in linux. If interested read this thread: Linux Driver for Prolific 2303 mani Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dskumar 13 Report post Posted February 9, 2005 Hi Manivannan, Great to know that you use linux. I use a different flavour of linux - Mandrake 10.1 - But I just tried the instructions posted in the rim forum for pcq2004 : http://www.rimweb.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=2318 and alterd it slightly et voila. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
manivannan 0 Report post Posted February 9, 2005 Hi Kumar, In the phone settings, do we have to anything in addition to setting the baud rate to 115200 ? Should we change the data settings to "Data in" and put the phone in "modem mode" before trying to connect ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dskumar 13 Report post Posted February 9, 2005 Hi Manivannan, No, I dont think that would be necessary. All I did was, Just configured my linux box as per the instructions in the forum , I have pasted here the extract from the message posted by deepu , not to take away from her any credits : To access the Net from your Reliance LG phone, first you need to configure the data modem present in the phone so that it can be used as a dial-up modem. For this, from your phone menu go to Settings >Phone>Data Settings> Data Baud, and set the Data Baud to 115200. Issue the following commands to configure the phone's modem. # modprobe usbcore # modprobe usbserial # modprobe ftdi_sio After this, your phone will act as a serial modem. To check if your settings would indeed work, issue this command from the same window. # usbview This opens a window showing all connected USB devices. If the window shows an entry called 'USB---Serial', it means your CDMA LG phone has been detected successfully. By default, Linux uses /dev/usb/ttyUSB0 as the device file of the phone. However, you can create a symbolic link for it, which is easier to remember. We created the link /dev/modem for this as follows. # ln -s /dev/usb/ttyUSB0 /dev/modem And used this link in all subsequent configurations, instead of keying in the entire /dev/usb/tty USB0 path. Configuring PPP dialer Next, you need to configure the PPP dialer on your Linux machine so that it can dial out to the Internet. To do this, edit the /etc/ppp/option file and fill the dialer configuration as given below. lock asyncmap 0 crtscts modem defaultroute usepeerdns onauth ***** /dev/modem 115200 The onauth alone, I had to change to noauth and after that I did this too . But May be this step is not necessary : Go to the /root directory and create a file called .ppprc, which should contain the following. user <Your-Reliance-Phone no> password <Your-Reliance-Phone no> Now After this, fire up x, Go to KDE. open KPPP , click on configure. Under the modems tab, click Query modem. If your modem setup is successful, you should be able to query though, all the AT values will be empty. And then, in the Accounts tab, click on new, choose Manual settings , u could add any name. In the number, type #777 and click on add. The method of authentication should be PAP / CHAP. And Thats it. Hope it works. Happy surfing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
manivannan 0 Report post Posted February 10, 2005 A Miracle! My cable suddenly started working with Windows XP. I did not install RConnect dialer; But set up a standard 33600 bps modem configured to the COM port to which my phone is connected. I have been trying the same for many days and failing. But yesterday it started working suddenly. I don't know why it didn't work all these days and why it started working now. I will investigate this further and post the findings here to help others. Thanks to all who extended their support to me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dacodecz 0 Report post Posted February 11, 2005 A Miracle!My cable suddenly started working with Windows XP. I did not install RConnect dialer; But set up a standard 33600 bps modem configured to the COM port to which my phone is connected. I have been trying the same for many days and failing. But yesterday it started working suddenly. I don't know why it didn't work all these days and why it started working now. I will investigate this further and post the findings here to help others. Thanks to all who extended their support to me. 26383[/snapback] Dear manivannan, Congratulations :-), Ok now when your set up your linux box properly also, then compare the performance of r-connect and tell us which one *sux* :-) (no pun intended). Cheers .............. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites