Amd64 ! . Is It Good.. ?

[swaroop 0]

Hey guys..

i m plannin to upgrade my system

and i have 2 choices..

either i take AMD64 2800+ processor + MSI K8M Neo-V Mother board.. the descriptions of which are given on [ Tech Tree ]

Or i can take a 32bit architecture of AMD Athlon or Intel HT technology.

Which one you would suggest is better for current needs... [coz there aint much 64 bit computing applications which we regularly use] .

The october CHIP magz doesnt highlight AMD64 much better than its 32 bit edition.

and i have planned to take a graphics card.. either..

Power Color ATI Radeon 9800(SE) (128mb) - costing near 10k

XFX Geforce FX 5700LE(256mb) - costing near 7k..

any1z got suggestion(s) ...which i should go f0r....

[biosbhai 0]

get AMD64 as it is very good for gaming.

also get that 9800SE. it is much better than 5700LE, especially for games like HL2.

5700LE --> NEVER BUY!!!!! its as bad as FX5200 (only slightly better)

[Ganesh 0]

AMD64 ROCKS.its highly stable and cooler than AMD32. go for it.

and i prefer the powercolor thingy

[ssr 10]

I am also planing to upgrade sys this week. but i heard news that prices will going to reduce further on 1st (already this week about 100 to 500 Rs. Price got redueced) Is that correct.

Also can anyone sujjest a good graphics card with in5K

[Ganesh 0]

what's ur total budget rakesh?

[swaroop 0]

sorry for late reply guys.. but i had gone 2 the h/w market(Nehru Place- New Delhi) and found this graphics card 5700LE is not available here...

but another model 59xx is available for around 7500 Bucks ..

But i have found another card XFX Geforce FX 6600-256mb for 9875 Rs.

But it is a PCI Express Card ( a better one than AGP ) .

I couldnt find a good mobo for AMD64 with PCI Express.

So i have decided to go for

Intel Pentium IV 2.8 GHz HT -> 7300 Rs

Intel 915 mobo -> 5375 Rs

Kingston 512 Mb RAM -> 4150 Rs (techtree says the ram is cheaper now.but i couldnt find it).

XFX GeforceFX 6600(256mb) -> 9875 Rs

The combo of AMD64 with a mother board of MSI k8t Neo Platinum is of 14-15k.

i suppose it doesnt have PCI Express so i m goin for 2.8 IntelPentium HT.

3.x has serios prescott heating problems.. so the prices for 2.8 have gone up!.

I have added up and my budget for upgrade is 30k.

any1 knows of any good mother board with PCI Express support for AMD64? .

And thanx a lot guys for helping me ..

[swaroop 0]

I am also planing to upgrade sys this week. but i heard news that prices will going to reduce further  on 1st (already this week about 100 to 500 Rs. Price got redueced) Is that correct.

Where did uhear this ? .in which h/w market in which city ? .

Also can anyone sujjest a good graphics card with in5K

plz make sure u read this link b4 u go for any graphics card. [ TechTree Reviews on Graphics Cards ]

And i could not find any review on the Graphics Card XFX GeforceFX 6600(256mb) .. only there is a review on 6600GT(this costs around 14k at NP-Delhi).

[biosbhai 0]

any1 knows of any good mother board with PCI Express support for AMD64? .

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Nvidia Nforce 4 chipset motherboards are the ones u need.

Asus A8N-SLI

[ssr 10]

I am planing to buy

CPU: AMD 64 3000+(Socket 939)

MB: MSI neo2 platinum or some SLI MB(PCIE)

RAM: 512 to 1GB (Donot know which type of ram to buy)

Graphics: not desided depending upon MB

Currently i want good Graphics card with in 5k bz after some time i will purchase top end card(good means all games must run )

PCIE mb's are not available in bangalore.

I donot know about graphics cards.

My buget is 20 to 25k

Edited December 28, 2004 by ss_rakesh

[Ganesh 0]

Well, for 25k, it will be tough to build a gaming pc.if you have a monitor,kb etc with you then 25K can be allright

[ssr 10]

Yes i am having everything i just want to upgrade CPU, MB, RAM, Graphics card.

[Ganesh 0]

I think PCIE cards are available in market under 5K to start with.atleast in chennai i found those at ritchie street.

[ssr 10]

I think PCIE cards are available in market under 5K to start with.atleast in chennai i found those at ritchie street.

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What is that card?

[swaroop 0]

I am planing to buy

CPU: AMD 64 3000+(Socket 939)

MB:  MSI neo2 platinum or some SLI MB(PCIE)

RAM: 512 to 1GB (Donot know which type of ram to buy)

Graphics: not desided depending upon MB

Can u give the prices and links to any reviews of the above ? .

[Ganesh 0]

i have done something else.i brought an AMD2600+ barton last week.after researching for about 3 weeks i found the best package.

i simply overclocked amd2600+ by 20mhz fsb and i got the performance of 3000+ without any harm.i am running at a 225Mhz advantage now.

I got the krypton c18G motherboard with an onboard GEForceMx440.i can share upto 128MB frame buffer for that.I got another 8X expansion slot for future.512MB ram for OS and another 128MB stick for the display card making a total of 640MB of ram.The total package costed me only 12500

what i mentioned here in the current setup is the best price vs performance balance

[swaroop 0]

i have done something else.i brought an AMD2600+ barton last week.after researching for about 3 weeks i found the best package.

i simply overclocked amd2600+ by 20mhz fsb and i got the performance of 3000+ without any harm.i am running at a 225Mhz advantage now.

I got the krypton c18G motherboard with an onboard GEForceMx440.i can share upto 128MB frame buffer for that.

Thanx for the info Ganesh.. one of my fren also got the same mobo+procz. He did not share any video ram. I'll let him know that this can be done..

Nvidia Nforce 4 chipset motherboards are the ones u need.

Asus A8N-SLI

Thanx BiosBhai.. i wil see if this mobo is available in the market....

Edited December 28, 2004 by swaroop

[ssr 10]

i have done something else.i brought an AMD2600+ barton last week.after researching for about 3 weeks i found the best package.

i simply overclocked amd2600+ by 20mhz fsb and i got the performance of 3000+ without any harm.i am running at a 225Mhz advantage now.

grt

As for as i know AMD2600+ will run around 1.9 GHz.

so currently at what speed it is working?

what is its temparature?

How many fans u have installed?

R u used any cooling solutions?

Edited December 29, 2004 by ss_rakesh

[biosbhai 0]

I am planing to buy

CPU: AMD 64 3000+(Socket 939)

MB:  MSI neo2 platinum or some SLI MB(PCIE)

RAM: 512 to 1GB (Donot know which type of ram to buy)

Graphics: not desided depending upon MB

Currently i want good Graphics card with in 5k bz after some time i will purchase top end card(good means all games must run )

PCIE mb's are not available in bangalore.

I donot know about graphics cards.

My buget is 20 to 25k

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1 GB RAM -> 8k

socket 939 3000+ -> 8k (i think)

MSI Neo2 Platinum mobo --> 6k (not sure)

Ati Radeon 9600 Pro -> 8k

I hope u can lower the RAM to 512 MB to fit the upgrade into 25k

[swaroop 0]

i suppose DDR2 512mb is available in the market for around 7k !.

would it be better by any chance ? .

[Ganesh 0]

rakesh,

i overclocked the fsb through 20Mhz.that means with a multiplier of 11.5,

i am getting an advantage of 20*11.5=230Mhz.

original speed is 1917

o'clocked speed is then 2147.

i am getting the speed of 3000+ now.

i am using the stock fan and one additional chasis fan only.

my temps run around 43 degrees idle and 49-52 in full load

[biosbhai 0]

i suppose DDR2 512mb is available in the market for around 7k !.

would it be better by any chance ? .

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try to get DDR2 with 3-3-3 timings. DDR2 with 4-4-4 timings are slower than DDR1

[swaroop 0]

Guys.. i have finally taken the system that ive always wanted. thanq guys for guiding me through..

the prices are also given below.

--> Pentium IV 2.8 HT - 1MB L2Cache - Prescott ( i havent got any heating problems.its      just the choice of the cabinet that matters). 
    Cost = 6750/-
--> Intel 915GAV Original Mobo -> 5.1 onboard sound.
     [ 925 board was too costly and it is not good presently for price/performance ratio - this is what the dealer told me ] 
    Cost = 5375/-.
--> XFX Geforce 6600 256MB .. Memory addressing 128bit..
    Cost = 8950/-
--> Kingston 512MB 400Mhz RAM - best in the market. 
    Cost = 4150/-
--> Creative Inspire 4.1 Speakers
    Cost = 2590
--> NavTech Cabinet [ auto cooling depending on temperature set - 350W SMPS] 
    Cost = 1450

These are the games i have played since Yesterday

FARCRY -> Runs on highest settings 1024X768X32 .. works gr8t.. mind blowing graphics.
Counter Strike Source [HL2 based]-> I still am not able to figure out the problem that my back speakers ( 2 out of 4) are not working when i select 4.1 sound in the settings. I have got 86FPS on 1024X768 with highest settings. 
Counter Strike v1.6 -> Runs perfectly on the highest settings ...
NFS UnderGround2 -> Runs in 1024X768 with all the settings at full intensity..

the graphics card is great.. if some1 has real intentions of great gaming now.. this is the card that i suggest him..

And finally the best thing ..

3dMark03 test results gave a great score of 3563 !

And i know that this thread started with me asking if AMD64 is good !

These are the reasons that i had not preferred it.. PCI Express support for mobo's for AMD64 is very less and the only motherboard i guess in the market is ASUS A8N SLI.

[sLI -> the support to use 2 same clock speed graphics cards for dual performance.]

It was too expensive ..I dont remember the price of this latest mobo.but its around 15k(mobo only) .

So i had to drop the idea and go for Intel 915GAV board.

Thanx 2 my frens Setu (who is a member of this forum) and Chirag (he aint here).. they really helped me !!

So that is it.. more to come from me.. let me play more games first yaar !

Edited December 30, 2004 by swaroop

[Ganesh 0]

WOW, thats a great new PC.i am planning to get a 128MB graphics card. any thoughts

[swaroop 0]

WOW, thats a great new PC.i am planning to get a 128MB graphics card. any thoughts

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there is a 128MB version of the GeForce 6600 in both AGP and PCI Express. The PCI Express is available for around 7500/-

But i would suggest u to go for the 256mb card instead..

[Ganesh 0]

Out of budget