siva1983in 1 Report post Posted November 30, 2010 But license-wise, There are 2 different types of operators in Chennai & RoTN (1) Operators who work in unified license -- BSNL, TTSL(Indicom+Docomo), Idea, Videocon, Unior etc.,(sorry..I don't have complete list) (2) Operators who work in 2 different licences for Chennai & RoTN separately -- Aircel, Airtel, Vodafone etc.,(sorry...I don't have complete list). You might have noticed roaming symbol for these operators when you move to Chennai from RoTN or vice-versa. As per ur partial list above u say bsnl works in unified license that means like what u have said above we must not get a roaming symbol when u travel inbetween chennai and RoTn. But the fact is v get roaming symbol for bsnl also. Initially bsnl, airtel,aircel, vodafone (then bplmobile / hutch) started with seperate licenses for chennai and RoTN.. They have different codes (like INA 40 / INA 94 (airtel)... diff. for chennai and RoTN). Even though their licenses could have been merged on paper i.e. on records, technically they r 2 diff. networks. So v will see roaming symbol. Whereas the new operators started for entire tn(incl. chennai) with a single network.. single code. So no roaming symbol. So what i come to say is there is no connection between the roaming symbol and unified license incase of older operators. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sougatadc 358 Report post Posted November 30, 2010 Post MNP launch, Tata Indicom is now luring subscribers from other networks (albeit for Haryana circle only for the time being). They have shown a list of reasons why a subscriber should switch over to Tata Indicom. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gmkarthikeyhan 2 Report post Posted November 30, 2010 Just checked with CC MNP will come to Chennai on 13th December 2010 and for RoTN, it will come on the 18th December 2010 But Kumar sir, TN and Chennai was made single circle long ago and I have seen posts of Kesav in old MNP thread that "DoT has got back the extra LRN (or whatever) number from BSNL and TataIndicom, so that Chennai and RoTN users will have same LRN number".. If that is the case, MNP launching date for both Chennai and RoTN should be same, right??? Or I am missing something??? Dear Friends, It's bit tricky situation in Tamilnadu. As for as the tariff is concerned, it's mandatory that tariff should be like a unified circle.This fact is known to everyone. But license-wise, There are 2 different types of operators in Chennai & RoTN (1) Operators who work in unified license -- BSNL, TTSL(Indicom+Docomo), Idea, Videocon, Unior etc.,(sorry..I don't have complete list) (2) Operators who work in 2 different licences for Chennai & RoTN separately -- Aircel, Airtel, Vodafone etc.,(sorry...I don't have complete list). You might have noticed roaming symbol for these operators when you move to Chennai from RoTN or vice-versa. According to DoT, RoTN number can be shifted only to another RoTN/Unified license holder. Chennai number can be shifted only to another Chennai/Unified license holder. Unified number can be shifted to another Chennai/RoTN/Unified license holder. To given an idea on what is not possible, Chennai Aircel number cannot be shifted to RoTN Airtel. But whether phone works in RoTN Airtel or Chennai Airtel is going to have no difference for the subscriber. WOW Awesome Reply;-) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KumaarShah 143 Report post Posted November 30, 2010 @kanagadeepan, I had called up CC and their reply is what I had posted here. Maybe they may have meant with regard to CDMA as I had called from my postpaid CDMA number. And the other reasons given by kesav are too good. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ankurcshah 112 Report post Posted November 30, 2010 Any Idea when it's coming in TamilNadu? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Honest 836 Report post Posted November 30, 2010 ^^^ My dear friend, for Tamil Nadu its 18th December 2010 (Except Chennai). 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rkburra 1 Report post Posted November 30, 2010 Are you sure? I am using RGSM number of Mumbai circle in Pune. I want to change the RGSM to other operator like Docomo in Pune. I am glad MNP is arriving in Mumbai and Maharashtra in the first week of December. There is also a good news for people from Mumbai and Maharashtra. I read a newspaper report saying that Mumbai and Maharashtra will be merged as a single mobile region from December end. BSNL has already done it but others have been asked to do so by December end. So no more roaming charges when moving from Mumbai to Maha and vice versa. Let me try to unearth the timetable with the inputs from members. Maharastra -- 4 December Punjab -- 5 December Mumbai -- 7 December Delhi -- 11 December Andhra Pradesh -- 17 December Bihar&Jharkhand -- 19 December Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Saurav 22 Report post Posted November 30, 2010 Reliance must break its silence now atleast on their Website. They have also mentioned anything even for Harayana. They must mention procedure for MNP from RCDMA to RGSM and Vice Versa. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Arun 795 Report post Posted November 30, 2010 AirTel's MNP page: http://www.airtel.in/airtelMNP/index.html Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kesav 127 Report post Posted December 1, 2010 (edited) But license-wise, There are 2 different types of operators in Chennai & RoTN (1) Operators who work in unified license -- BSNL, TTSL(Indicom+Docomo), Idea, Videocon, Unior etc.,(sorry..I don't have complete list) (2) Operators who work in 2 different licences for Chennai & RoTN separately -- Aircel, Airtel, Vodafone etc.,(sorry...I don't have complete list). You might have noticed roaming symbol for these operators when you move to Chennai from RoTN or vice-versa. As per ur partial list above u say bsnl works in unified license that means like what u have said above we must not get a roaming symbol when u travel inbetween chennai and RoTn. But the fact is v get roaming symbol for bsnl also. Initially bsnl, airtel,aircel, vodafone (then bplmobile / hutch) started with seperate licenses for chennai and RoTN.. They have different codes (like INA 40 / INA 94 (airtel)... diff. for chennai and RoTN). Even though their licenses could have been merged on paper i.e. on records, technically they r 2 diff. networks. So v will see roaming symbol. Whereas the new operators started for entire tn(incl. chennai) with a single network.. single code. So no roaming symbol. So what i come to say is there is no connection between the roaming symbol and unified license incase of older operators. Possible Siva, I stand corrected. I thought roaming symbol could help in identifying the type of license but as you said if it fails for BSNL then I think it's not a good solution for identifying the license. The below are few facts. All new operators are in unified license. BSNL and TTSL are 2 old operators( whom I know for sure) who have migrated to unified license. Edited December 1, 2010 by kesav Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
me_saket 73 Report post Posted December 1, 2010 Does anybody tried MNP? Any one from haryana? IS CDMA to GSM and vice cersa is working succesfully? Why no offer from New operator MTS? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kshah 452 Report post Posted December 1, 2010 I think operators will not give any exotic offeres immediately with the assumption that people who are switching operators will be opportunists and may cause domino effect. So they may offer one time incentive like refund of MNP charges or small amount credit for longer period like 6 or 12 months. I am sure people who switch are amongst truly dissatisfied lot. And fact will be that they will remain dissatisfied even with new operator as no one is going to. Change due to MNP. Life time validity is major factor why peple will be hesistant to change operators. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Anupe 14 Report post Posted December 1, 2010 (edited) I had spoken to CC of Airtel to enquire about MNP for Kerala yesterday but they couldnt provide me with a date. I got it instead from Reliance, who actually called me back to give me the information. What was most hilarious though was that from this morning, I was inundated with a series of missed calls early in the day itself, and finally when I answered one of them, it turned out to be from Airtel CC, desperately trying to contact me to see if there was anyway I was "unhappy" with their service and if I had called them asking about MNP because I wanted to move away from their network. They were literally licking my boots, saying that they would do anything to ensure that I am a pleased customer and that I am valuable to them, blah blah... it was quite funny indeed, since I had called them just to get information about the MNP roll out date in our state! Edited December 1, 2010 by Anupe Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kesav 127 Report post Posted December 1, 2010 (edited) Does anybody tried MNP? Any one from haryana? IS CDMA to GSM and vice cersa is working succesfully? Why no offer from New operator MTS? MTS is currently in switch-off mode due to impending cancellation of their licenses in the circles where they've not started their service. Currently their focus is to save those licenses by providing mandated roll-out obligation coverage in those circles. MNP is not their focus at the moment. Edited December 1, 2010 by kesav Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ravi_patent 28 Report post Posted December 2, 2010 that(mts sleep) may be logically correct ,but with the support of their govt's both mts and uninor will never allow for cancellations for the policy lapses(inablity to of verify criterion of licence seeking companies as admitted by sibal) of indian govt.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
supernova 47 Report post Posted December 2, 2010 Does anybody tried MNP? Any one from haryana? IS CDMA to GSM and vice cersa is working succesfully? Why no offer from New operator MTS? yes. CDMA to GSM and vice cersa is working succesfully Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Saurav 22 Report post Posted December 2, 2010 @ Supernova What time does it actually takes for Migration of RGSM to RCDMA and process? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kesav 127 Report post Posted December 2, 2010 (edited) that(mts sleep) may be logically correct ,but with the support of their govt's both mts and uninor will never allow for cancellations for the policy lapses(inablity to of verify criterion of licence seeking companies as admitted by sibal) of indian govt.. MTS problem is one dimensional. It has a problem only in roll-out obligation which can be achieved by pleading with DoT for extra time. DoT has to make a call whether to accept that plea or not. Uninor problem is two dimensional. One with roll-out obligation and another with eligibility criteria at the point of getting licenses. Eligibility criteria cannot be corrected retrospectively. If it's proven that they didn't meet eligibility criteria then there exist no other choice other than to cancel the licenses of Uninor. The players who are behind them in the queue will push for cancellation. It's purely players mistake for submitting wrong documents. It's mistake on the part of Telenor for not having done proper due diligence before acquisition. DoT only can help in migration of uninor subscribers to other players in a smooth manner. Edited December 2, 2010 by kesav Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
supernova 47 Report post Posted December 2, 2010 whole process is of 5-7 days .. many confusions and flaws going on Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ashish_1985 13 Report post Posted December 3, 2010 Today again second time i recd call from vodafone ask ing me the reason i ported my vodafone number. One of the executive at vodafone gallery confirmed me tht MNP is going to be launched in mumbai on third week of jan. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
getsmack 1 Report post Posted December 3, 2010 Today again second time i recd call from vodafone ask ing me the reason i ported my vodafone number. One of the executive at vodafone gallery confirmed me tht MNP is going to be launched in mumbai on third week of jan. I guess the MNP in Maharashtra has again been postponed till Jan'11...got an update from Reliance...is this true? this shucks... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Saurav 22 Report post Posted December 3, 2010 For Punjab also they are saying same thing. I think RCOM played a Joke with customers as they were the only to share these dates. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kesav 127 Report post Posted December 3, 2010 (edited) TRAI directs service providers to treat the SMS sent to short code number 1900 as ordinary SMS for the purpose of charging and the rate for such SMS shall not exceed the tariff applicable for ordinary SMS under the tariff plan opted by the subscriber http://www.trai.gov.in/WriteReadData/trai/upload/Directives/141/directions3dec10erdiv.pdf Edited December 3, 2010 by kesav Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ravi_patent 28 Report post Posted December 3, 2010 good move by trai...someone said here that airtel was charging 10 bucks Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
me_saket 73 Report post Posted December 3, 2010 reliance has suceesfully testes MNP in maharashtra on 2nd dec. SO MNP may start soon Share this post Link to post Share on other sites