Updated: Apple Sues Samsung - Apple Wins Patent Case

[sgiitk 32]

It seems that Apple are suing Samsung for copying the look and feel of the iPhone in the Galaxy series. So who is scared out of their skins?

[ami1 237]

Finally, proof that Android & Samsung Galaxy are now really successful.

Apple can't beat them technically or with its great marketing so it now upto the lawyers !

[HetalDP 947]

Making same Unibody Aluminium Products is not Innovation, Copying what people like is of course, i find Chinese copy cat more innovative then Nokia now a days

[HetalDP 947]

This fight is going to be interesting. I really like both companies, but consider this:

Ranking of Companies by US Patents Awarded in 2010:

1. IBM (5,896)

2. Samsung (4,551)

3. Microsoft (3,094)

4. Panasonic (2,482)

5. Toshiba (2,246)

6. Sony (2,150)

7. Intel (1,653)

8. LG (1,490)

9. HP (1,480)

.... AND

46. Apple (563)

Source: IFI Claims Patent Services

Obviously, Apple doesn't have the R&D infrastructure of many of these, but may be it should, esp given its growing prowess in the market. And of course, this lawsuit is only specific to smartphone technology, and this data covers all patents, minor and major, etc.

Nevertheless, it is a good reminder that while Apple does make the "sexy" products, it's not exactly the most inventive or creative technology company out there that everyone seemingly "copies" all the time.

And yes, I think patents are a good metric for corporate ingenuity; Apple seems to think so as well (in this lawsuit).

[Note: In general, IP must be registered in each country, so the table above doesn't begin to show what these companies have internationally]

[sgiitk 32]

It is a David and Goliath scenario. Apple against a Chaebol! Fascinating.

[ami1 237]

It seems apple is suing mostly over trademark look & feel of the hardware and software UI & some Design patents - saying that galaxy phones/tabs are flat with rounded corners and rows or app icons etc all of which look like apple products ! !

No great tech invention patent or anything. This looks quite desperate on apple's part. Here are some images from their lawsuit:-

images are from here & here

[HetalDP 947]

Apple Buy SSD Memory,LPDRAM RAM, LCD for Laptops, LED, A4 and A5 Processors, NAND for iPhone from Samsung

Another Law Suit in Back is comming Apple hold Zero Patents in GSM LTE 3G love this game, Apple sues everybody will get f**k once upon

[rajanmehta 4,056]

Apple thinks it has patents over everything slim, white & with inviting curves...

Thank God!!! The patents do not extend on living things...

Otherwise we would have paid through the nose everytime watching Katrina Kaif in "Sheila Ki Jawani" or Slice Ad "Sabar ka fal mitha hota hai"

Apple paid $ 6 billion in 2010 to Samsung for parts purchase & accounted for 4% of Samsung revenues. May be it wants a nice volume discount.

If Samsung wants to play hardball, it can disrupt Apple's production & supply chains.

[digitalnirvana 646]

I remember using a LG phone called Arena you can google it was exact same in looks as iphone3g but Apple did not sue them, now this action smacks of desperation, they are frightened.

[Genius 817]

Otherwise we would have paid through the nose everytime watching Katrina Kaif in "Sheila Ki Jawani" or Slice Ad "Sabar ka fal mitha hota hai"

Just putting emotions to Rajans words;

and hey you all are jealous of iphone - let it come with data in reliance

I still believe its hard to decide which comes first - but there is still no android to beat ios or iphone - now there is a major concern of security in android - due to black market but in ios installous and app cake rules without such issues

Edited April 19, 2011 by Genius

[Karthik R 246]

Technology companies often sue each other over patent infringement, a practice referred to as competition through litigation. Many big companies also stockpile patents in order to fend off infringement claims from competing companies.

The basic concept of this defense is "mutual patent destruction." In other words, if you sue me into oblivion, I'll do the same to you.

[KanagaDeepan 1,084]

If Samsung wants to play hardball, it can disrupt Apple's production & supply chains.

Hmmm.... Very interesting...

[sgiitk 32]

Look at Post 17 in http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/gadgets-computers-software/99886-apple-sues-samsung-2.html

The Samsung F700 released in Feb 2007 (four months before the iPhone) is very similar. So sammy can sue back!

I wonder whether Apple expects a better takeover deal once Steve Jobs quits. Definitely, the suitor will not be Steve Ballmer!

Edited April 20, 2011 by sgiitk

[shrik 9]

A new arrow will need to be added to this diagram from Oct 2010

Look at Post 17 in http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/gadgets-computers-software/99886-apple-sues-samsung-2.html

The Samsung F700 released in Feb 2007 (four months before the iPhone) is very similar. So sammy can sue back!

This post from appleinsider claims the dates in the "LOL@Apple" graphic are wrong, and that Samsung unvieled the F700 a month after the iPhone.

Edited April 20, 2011 by shrik

[sgiitk 32]

@shrik; brilliant. I have posted this on many forums - motoring where I am active.

[rajanmehta 4,056]

@shrik Nice visual potrait. +1

You should post more at forums. That Statistical Arguement in one of the MNP Topic was thoughtful.

[Genius 817]

Shrik nice digi bro

[ami1 237]

This post from appleinsider claims the dates in the "LOL@Apple" graphic are wrong, and that Samsung unvieled the F700 a month after the iPhone.

There's also Palm LifeDrive which 'inspired' apple:

[sgiitk 32]

Thanks ami1. I stand corrceted, may be after Jobs Steve Ballmer will have his big chance to make a dent in the mobile world!

[ami1 237]

Here is another infographic on the law suits in telecom/technology sector :

[rajanmehta 4,056]

Here is Apple's Full Court Complaint Document Against Samsung Filed in United States District Court - Northern District Of California

ApplevSamsung_April2011.pdf

[rajanmehta 4,056]

Samsung returns the favor, sues Apple in Germany, Korea, Japan

[Karthik R 246]

Samsung retaliates - files 10 patent infringements against Apple.

- Engadget

This shouldn't come as a surprise to anyone: in the latest chapter of the Apple-Samsung dispute over their smartphones' resemblance, the latter company has just retaliated by filing lawsuits against Apple in three countries. Sammy's load of ammo include five patent infringements in South Korea, two in Japan, and three in Germany, though we've yet to hear more details about these claims. Now we just sit back and enjoy the show - popcorn, anyone?

[rajanmehta 4,056]

Apple sued over iPad, iPhone tracking

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SAN FRANCISCO: Apple Inc was accused of invasion of privacy and computer fraud by two customers who claim in a lawsuit that the company is secretly recording movements of iPhone and iPad users.

Vikram Ajjampur, an iPhone user in Florida, and William Devito, a New York iPad customer, sued April 22 in federal court in Tampa, Florida, seeking a judge's order barring the alleged data collection.

The complaint cited a report last week by two computer programmers claiming that Apple's iOS4 operating system is logging latitude-longitude coordinates along with the time a spot is visited. The programmers said Apple devices are collecting about a year's worth of location data. Apple hasn't commented on the matter since the April 20 report was released.

"We take issue specifically with the notion that Apple is now basically tracking people everywhere they go," Aaron Mayer, an attorney for the plaintiffs, said today in a telephone interview. "If you are a federal marshal, you have to have a warrant to do this kind of thing, and Apple is doing it without one."

Illinois Attorney General Lisa Madigan asked to meet with Apple and Google Inc. executives to discuss reports that their products collect information about users' locations. Madigan wrote to both companies asking what information they store, its purposes and for how long, according to a statement by her office today.

Regulators investigating

French, German, Italian and South Korean regulators are investigating the alleged location collection feature on Apple devices following publication of the report by Alasdair Allan, a senior research follow in Astronomy at University of Exeter in England, and Pete Warden, a former Apple software engineer, authorities in those countries disclosed last week.

Steve Dowling, a spokesman for Cupertino, California-based Apple, didn't immediately return a call seeking comment on the suit.

The plaintiffs are seeking to represent a group of U.S. customers whose iPhones and iPads have the operating system that allegedly collects location data, Mayer said. About one-third to one-half of the country's 60 million iPhone users could be part of the class, he said.

Ajjampur and Devito are also asking for refunds because they wouldn't have bought their products had they known about the feature, Mayer said. The complaint says the alleged location collection violates federal computer fraud laws and consumer fraud and deceptive trade practice laws in many states. The lawsuit seeks unspecified punitive damages for alleged negligent misrepresentation.

The Apple customers said they were unaware of the tracking system and never consented to it. Even if they disable the global-positioning function on their devices, the tracking system keeps working, according to the complaint.

[shrik 9]

I was going through the US patent complaint of Samsung vs Apple, and feel that some of these patents seem to be for mundane tasks that one takes for granted. eg:

31. As users travel across time zones, the ability of a mobile device to update to the local time is important for tracking appointments and meetings. Samsung's technology provides a means for a mobile device to control and display world time.