RIP Amanat / Damini / Nirbhaya

[ramtech 47]

I agree with most of the points raised.

I have come across some incidents where laws are misused.

SC/ST laws meant to protect SC/ST people are misused by the that society.

There are few women who harass men.Some women threaten their husbands if they dont listen to them.They infact blackmail.

Every law can be misused.It is like double edged sword.

one should have ethics and morals.And be with humanity.

People should get rid of selfish nature and think good of others.

All long as people are self centred ,

-They misuse laws

- Destroy the balance of nature and effects we are already started seeing(global warning, irregular rains, etc)

sorry its not they its WE

[city02 63]

absurd solution since we are neither a communist country like china [max death penalties] or an islamic state which hardly have a good record for women's rights!

death penalty for rape will incentivise the criminals to also kill the victims after the attack

this will not be the deterrent that most expect

no civilised society in the world has capital punishment for any rapes and there is a very good reason for it!

fast track courts with speedy closures will have a much bigger impact

compensation should be increased to rs. 1 lakh min or 1 year's salary of victim or attacker whichever is more

[yes, i'm aware that this sounds very low but the reality is that even less is actually paid out on avg!]

full medical / legal expenses without time limits to be paid by the guilty [as reimbursements] over and above compensation for pain and suffering

however, it must remain a bailable offence since innocents will get jailed until proven otherwise

it will become an easy way to blackmail men and subject to abuse of due process

there is a lot of talk about zero jurisdiction policy where rape complaint can be filed at any police station regardless of location

this is an excellent idea but should apply to all murders / homicides also nationwide

a nationwide toll free hotline could also be setup like they have abroad and educating girls in all schools:

http://www.girlshealth.gov/safety/saferelationships/daterape.cfm

'If you think that you or someone you know has been drugged and raped:

• Don’t blame yourself. The rape was not your fault.
• Talk to an adult and go to the police station or hospital right away! If you don't have an adult to talk to first, just go to the police station or hospital.
• Don’t urinate (pee) before getting help.
• Get a urine (pee) test as soon as possible. The drugs leave your system quickly. Rohypnol leaves your body 72 hours after you take it. GHB leaves the body in 12 hours.
• Don’t douche, bathe, or change clothes before getting help. Doing these things can remove possible evidence of the rape, such as semen (fluid from a man) or hair belonging to the person who assaulted you.
• Get medical care right away. Tell the doctor or nurse if you think you were drugged. He or she will give you a urine test right away because date rape drugs leave your body quickly. You will also get a medical exam to make sure you don’t have other injuries. The doctor or nurse will test you for sexually transmitted diseases (STDs), including HIV/AIDS, and offer you emergency contraception to prevent pregnancy. If the doctor or nurse does not mention testing for STDs or emergency contraception, ask for them.
• The counselor will help you figure out how to tell your parents/guardians. They may be angry or upset, but only because they care about you and don't want you to get hurt. Getting help and dealing with your emotions is the first step in healing.
• You can call a crisis center or a hotline to talk with a counselor. One national hotline is the 24-hour National Domestic Violence Hotline at 1-800-799-SAFE (1-800-799-7233) or 1-800-787-3224 (TDD). Feelings of shame, guilt, fear, and shock are normal. It is important to get counseling from a trusted professional.

Disappointing to hear this morning that so many Rape cases - one Bengal wife, UP . . . and another attempt in Delhi bus.

In-spite of so much of publicity, agitation & moves for imposing constitution changes for severe punishment, Rape crime is not eliminated but only has increased.

Best solution is Public Hanging to help to prevent further animal behavior.

[csmart 472]

Agree with Nath. There is need for stringent law but not which gives excessive power to anybody. There should be fast track courts and even police should be penalised for no action/improper investigation and other lapses and similarly complainant in case of false charges.

In current scenario, nobody has respect for law. People know that cases drag on for years before any verdict is out. Speedy trial is ensure only in cases where media is involved.

I will rather suggest having law whereby offenders are penalised based on their economic status & education. Higher the income, higher the punishment and higher compensation(for high net worth offenders, it should be paid by them) with minimum punishment and compensation. Similarly govt officers, politicians, policemen should be considered as high net worth as they are the protector of law and also enjoy lot benefits under IPC. Please don't mentioned about equality. Equality in India exists only in books and while real scenario is totally different. This is my OPINION.

Edited January 2, 2013 by csmart

[ShailShah 0]

R.I.P.

And Hope that Some Strong Law is passed by the Government so that the people are afraid to do such Disgusting things thinking of the Punishment they will have to go through !!

They do these things because nothing happens to them irrespective of whatever they do !!

[Honest 836]

May her soul rest in peace.

[Rahul Always 87]

I wonder why it took so long for people to come out on the streets to protest against an issue that has been alive for so long. Unfortunately, most political parties are only interested in gaining mileage out of this shameful incident and their protests and view points reflect that absurd reality. The present day (modern) generation gets swayed easily by happenings which have been highlighted, be it the Anna anti-corruption protests or the current agitation. However, sustaining such a movement is next to impossible since people will slowly migrate back to their normal lives over a period of time. However bitter this may sound, these agitations only retain freshness for a certain period of time. People would slowly get back to their normal lives. I cant blame anyone since everyone has a life to lead after all.

Change can only come if we truly believe that the system can change. People do want a change but no one seems willing to take that extra step.Change can only come if we truly believe that the system can change. People do want a change but no one seems willing to take that extra step.

This article from Mediacrooks sums up the matter almost perfectly. Worth a read for sure

Regards

Rahul

[funky_ace 16]

If you pick up annual crime reports you will see Delhi has most number of rape cases among all states. Thats really shameful considering New Delhi is India's capital. Its really frustrating to pick up newspaper in the morning just to spot a new rape case in Delhi most of the times. I have noticed one thing over the years that most of the rapist don't consider themselves to be part of society and hence they don't have to worry about anything like reputation\self esteem\career. They just commit the crime without thinking of the consequences, a thing people like us have to think about before doing anything big. Most of the girls getting raped are minor, and as bas as it sound, it is true.

Now coming over to the justice factor. Do you people think killing thse delinquents solve anything? It won't bring the girl back. What we need in not the death penlaty but an example. We need to set an example that would make these type of people think twice before doing anything like this.

One last thing I would like to say before ending this post. Can we really blame these criminals? Let me rephrase it. Should we blame only these criminals? I think there is more to it. Their families are just as much responisble if they praying for the well being of their sons right now. Last but not the least is the so called society. We have been too much lenient with this types of crime. We need to take proper measure to put all this BS to an end.

[rajanmehta 4,056]

India Gang Rape Victim's Father: I Want The World To Know My Daughter's Name is Jyoti Singh Pandey

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Devastated dad tells The Sunday People he hopes revealing her name will give courage to other women who have survived such attacks

She is known to the world only as India’s Daughter following her sickening gang rape and murder.

But today, with permission of her devastated father, we can reveal her name: Jyoti Singh Pandey.

Brave dad Badri, 53, told The Sunday People: “We want the world to know her real name.

“My daughter didn’t do anything wrong, she died while protecting herself.

“I am proud of her. Revealing her name will give courage to other women who have survived these attacks. They will find strength from my daughter.”

We interviewed Badri and his family in his ancestral village of Billia in the northern Indian state of Uttar Pradesh.

They have retreated there to grieve away from their Delhi home – a place that will constantly remind them of the barbaric sexual attack Jyoti, 23, was subjected to when she and a male friend were lured on to a bus.

His wife Asha, 46, was too shell-shocked to talk to us.

Badri said: “At first I wanted to see the men responsible face to face but I don’t want to any more. I just want to hear that the courts have punished them and they will be hanged.

“Death for all six of them. These men are beasts. They should be made an example of and that society will not allow such things to happen.”

Recalling the day he found out about his only daughter’s ordeal, Badri said he had just returned home after 10:30pm on December 16 from his shift at Delhi airport where he works as a loader.

His wife was worried after Jyoti, a medical school graduate, had not returned home from the cinema.

Badri said: “We started calling her mobile and her friend’s mobile but there was no answer.

“Then at 11.15pm we got a call from the hospital in Delhi telling me my daughter had been in an accident.”

Badri asked a friend to take him on a motorbike.

He said: “When I first saw her she was in the bed with her eyes closed.

“I put my hand on her forehead and called her name. She slowly opened her eyes and started crying and said she was in pain.

“I held my tears. I told her not to worry, have strength and everything will be all right.”

At the time Badri still didn’t know what had happened. A policeman finally explained. Jyoti and her friend Awindra Pandey, 28, had boarded a bus to get home but had been taken on a two-and-a-half hour ride to hell by the driver, his assistant and four passengers.

Both were battered with iron bars and Jyoti was repeatedly raped before they were stripped and dumped on a road leading to Delhi airport – yards from where Badri was working.

He said: “I immediately called my wife and sons and told them to come to the hospital. But I couldn’t tell them about the rape.”

For the first ten days Jyoti was in and out of consciousness and it was hopeful she would survive. Badri said: “Doctors did their best to save her. She spoke a few times but mostly through gestures. She had a feeding pipe in her mouth making it difficult for her to speak.

But she did write on some paper that she wanted to live, she wanted to survive and stay with us. But it was fate that had the last say in the end.”

Jyoti gave the police two statements, but Badri was too distraught to sit in as he couldn’t listen to what his daughter had been subjected to.

“My wife was with her through the statements but she cried so much after hearing it all,” Badri said.

“She then told me what happened. I don’t have the words to describe the incident. All I can say is they’re not human, not even animals. They’re not of this world.

“It was just gruesome and I hope no one ever goes through what she had to endure.

“She cried a lot, she was in a lot of pain. And as soon as she saw her mother and brothers she cried again.

“But after that she was a courageous girl, even trying to console us and give us hope that everything will be all right.”

Doctors were forced to remove Jyoti’s intestines and as her conditioned worsened, they flew her to Singapore for specialist care on Boxing Day.

Badri said: “I told her everything would be OK and we’ll soon be back home. She was excited when we talked about going home and she smiled.

“I put my hand on her forehead, she asked me if I’d had any dinner and then she gestured for me to go to sleep. I held her hand and kissed it. I told her to take rest and not to worry and she closed her eyes.”

As Jyoti battled for life, thousands took to the streets to demand the hanging of the six accused and a new anti-rape law. But three days later on December 29 she had a fatal heart attack.

Badri said: “I so desperately wanted her to survive, even though she would have to live with a memory of that attack and get through her trauma.

“We’re so devastated that she’s gone. There’s a huge void in our lives. She was the centre of our universe. Our lives revolved around her.

“Her absence is so painful, a future without her is unimaginable.”

Badri said Jyoti’s friend Awindra was not her boyfriend – just a very brave friend who tried to save her.

He said: “There was no question of her marrying because we belong to different castes.

“She never expressed a desire to marry. She was concentrating on her studies and wanted a job first.”

Badri also revealed that Jyoti often mentioned how much Awindra tried to save her.

“She kept telling her mother he tried his best to help but they kept beating him with a rod.”

Badri now cherishes the memories of his daughter. He remembers her dream of being a doctor.

He said: “I told her I can’t afford to pay for her to do such subjects but she was determined. She wanted to be a doctor and earn lots of money and go overseas a lot.”

When Badri first moved to Delhi in 1983 he earned just 150 Rupees a month – the equivalent of £1.70 today.

But he sold some land to pay for his daughter’s studies and saved as much as possible from his 5,700 Rupees (£65) a month he now earns.

Badri said: “It’s hard living in Delhi on my wages, very hard. But Jyoti always said she would change all of that. She wanted to change our lives once she got a job.”

Jyoti had only just finished her four-year course in physiotherapy at college outside Delhi. She was doing an internship when she was attacked.

Her brothers, Gaurav Singh, 20, and Saurav Singh, 15, were close to their big sister and cannot image how they will cope.

Gaurav said: “Life is going to be so difficult without her. Without her guidance I don’t know what to do or how to go about life again.”

Badri and all the family have been touched by the way the nation has supported them.

He said: “The people of India have given us strength to cope up with our loss. I feel she’s not just my daughter but also India’s daughter.

“I used to read about rape incidents in the newspapers but never digested it much. We’re so thankful to the people who came out to protest against the barbarity.”

DNA tests have linked five men and a 17-year-old from the bus with rape and murder. The men will appear at the District Court in the Saket area of the Indian capital tomorrow. The 17-year-old will be tried separately as a juvenile.

Badri now hopes mothers and fathers will teach their sons to respect women.

He said: “The police cannot handle this on their own. But parents need to keep an eye on their children too.”

Badri’s face lit up when he spoke of Jyoti’s dreams and invited us to look through his family album. Each photo showed his beautiful daughter smiling. In most she is wears western clothes, which she favoured over the traditional sari. She also always wore her long, dark shiny hair down and flowing – never tied up.

In respect with Badri’s wishes he has asked us not to picture her.

Releasing a photo of her is for another day.

Indian law prohibits naming a rape victim unless she authorises it or, if she is dead, her family agrees to it.

At the moment it is enough for the devastated family to sanction the release to the world of their precious daughter’s name.

[shadow 119]

If you pick up annual crime reports you will see Delhi has most number of rape cases among all states. Thats really shameful considering New Delhi is India's capital.

registered cases, unofficially every state has almost same rates

[phonegeek 588]

If you pick up annual crime reports you will see Delhi has most number of rape cases among all states. Thats really shameful considering New Delhi is India's capital.

registered cases, unofficially every state has almost same rates

Source?

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[city02 63]

officially london has 6 times more reported rapes than delhi

but anyone would agree london is a much safer city for women than our capital

at least the police will arrive in 5-10 min to help anyone

If you pick up annual crime reports you will see Delhi has most number of rape cases among all states. Thats really shameful considering New Delhi is India's capital.

registered cases, unofficially every state has almost same rates

[tanveer 59]

Besides the majority if cases are not reported in Delhi or for that matter in any city in India.