Hutch Barred From Using Ptt

[@ksh@T 20]

Dear friends,

Hutch has been barred from using the PTT service which TRAI has akkeged that it is not in its licence and there is very difficulty in keeping the tracks of the calls......

Which in the form could not be traced and is beneficial for terrorists

My dear friends shouldnt wee suggest that they must also ban PTT of TATA....

and fine them HEFTY amt......

when Ambani Bhai can be fined then Y dont them....

desijallad

[vb86 0]

this happened quite a while back

[@ksh@T 20]

BUT friends dont u think TRAI shd also take action on TATA

desijallad

[anujit 0]

They stopped Tata a long long while back.

[@ksh@T 20]

ok...thats a new NEWS for me and i didnt knew it but was TATA fined for breaking the Licence conditions as RIM was?

desijallad

[anujit 0]

Tata wasnt fined. Just made to stop the service.

Tata is way way way to honest and ethical.

Although there is a prospective Rs. 50 crore fine against them for screw*i*n*g with their landline/wll numbers in Rajasthan (or was it Gujrat).

Either ways Tata isnt like RIM. Actually no other company is!

[@ksh@T 20]

please tell me i am lvng in rajasthan and dont know nothing abt that.....

desijallad

[Bablus 66]

i know.. this question sounds stupid here

but i am really wondering what is Push to Talk

we all press (push) the green button to talk

so whats new in this..

and how does this affect the tariff (if at all)

someone pls answer

[anujit 0]

You can effectively make "STD calls" with other Indicom subscribers without paying ADC!

And we know the "babu mentality" is still very strong here - no people shouldnt talk to each other who knows what they'll discuss!

Officially its - Security Risks! And the Haryana police is planning on lathi charging anyone with PTT phones!

[ashoksoft 83]

LOL ! Lathi charge from where ? if i use it inside my house ?

[Vishal Gupta 4]

i know.. this question sounds stupid here

but i am really wondering what is Push to Talk

we all press (push) the green button to talk

so whats new in this..

and how does this affect the tariff (if at all)

someone pls answer

Push to talk, commonly abbreviated as PTT, is a method of conversing on half-duplex communication lines, by pushing a button in order to send, allowing voice communication to be transmitted from you, and releasing to let voice communication be received.

One of the earliest mobile telephone protocols. It was the mobile equivalent of operator-assisted land telephone service. The protocol was as follows: The mobile telephone user pressed and held their PTT (Push-To-Talk) button for several seconds to get the mobile operator's attention. When they released PTT, an operator would reply (transmit on their channel) and ask them the number then wanted. The user would key up (PTT) and tell the operator the number they wished. The operator would dial and connect the land line, and the conversation would proceed. When there was no activity for awhile or the land line hung up, the operator could reuse the channel. This was used at least into the 1980's in Canada. This was replaced by MTS.

The term has come to be more commonly known as referring to a feature that is available on certain more recent mobile phone models. It allows the mobile phone, when in a special mode, to function as a digital two-way radio in push-to-talk operation (in a fashion similar to the "trunking" feature of newer commercial and public-safety two-way radios). Only one person at a time can talk, by pressing a PTT button, and one or several others can listen instantly. The service connects mobile phone users with each other within seconds. Currently, PTT users have to belong to the same mobile operator's (carrier's) network in order to talk to one another. PTT commonly does not use up the regular airtime minutes that are available for general voice calls, it uses the GPRS connection, on which the amount of data transmitted is billed, and not the minutes of conversation. Nextel Communications introduced mobile push to talk several years ago using iDEN and is currently the leader in this industry. iDEN technology is also used by SouthernLinc in the southeastern US, and as well as several other carriers worldwide.

Recently, Verizon Wireless and Sprint PCS in the United States, Advanced Info Service (AIS) in Thailand, Telstra in Australia and also Bell Mobility (known as 10-4 service) (CDMA) and Telus Mobility (known as MIKE) (iDEN) in Canada launched their push to talk services. And more operators all over the world have announced intentions to launch similar services.

Verizon is using for its service the Motorola v60p mobile phone, a modified version of the v60 that has the push to talk feature. Sprint PCS is using several models of Sanyo phones equipped with similar technology. Telstra and AIS are using the Nokia 5140 mobile phone and their GPRS networks.

The Motorola and Nokia versions of PTT are based on 2.5G packet-switched networks (CDMA by Motorola, GPRS by Nokia) and use SIP and RTP protocols. These particular versions of PTT are called "Push to Talk over Cellular", which is abbreviated "PoC". The Open Mobile Alliance is defining PoC as part of the IMS - IP Multimedia System - framework, and the standard is expected to be finalized in late 2004. A pre-standard version of PoC is also defined by the industry consortium made up of Motorola, Nokia, Ericsson, Siemens AG, AT&T Wireless, and Cingular Wireless with the aim of creating a commercial offering enabling inter-operability between vendors.

Push to Talk users are often criticized for using their phones in an inappropriate manner, which includes yelling into their phones during times and in places unsuited to having such a public conversation. Most Nextel iDEN phones have a feature that allows the user to have their PTT Conversation only over earpiece of the phone instead of over the loudspeaker.

[@ksh@T 20]

Man i had asked 1 question in middle of the topic which was washed @ the end......can i know what hapened to TATA in Rajasthan

[anujit 0]

Here you are Akash:

Tata Tele spat: BSNL pegs Gujarat loss at Rs 80 lakh

Mithun Roy / Ahmedabad July 12, 2005

State-owned Bharat Sanchar Nigam (BSNL) says it lost Rs 80 lakh in Gujarat owing to Tata Teleservices’ (TTSL) violation of Telecom Regulatory Authority of India (Trai) guidelines.

BSNL says TTSL used the znumbering level 55, 56 and 57, which are marked for WLL (wireless in local loop) services. “TTSL uses the fixed numbering level to provide WLL telephone services, in complete violation of Trai guidelines. We lost revenue of Rs 80 lakh as there is a different pulse rate for fixed line and WLL services,” D K Agrawal, principal general manager, BSNL, Gujarat circle, said.

BSNL says TTSL was thus enjoying the benefits of a fixed line service operator even as it was offering services called ‘Walky’, which was essentially a limited mobile service.

Asked what initial actions BSNL had taken, Agrawal said: “BSNL has decided to treat all calls to level 55, 56 and 57 of TTSL as limited mobile and a 45-seconds pulse rate is applicable as per a unified access service provider, limited and fully mobile with immediate effect.”

According to BSNL, the language of the TTSL advertisement and brochures goes: ‘Tata Indicom Walky combines the best features of the mobile phones and the landline. It gives you features like freedom of mobility, caller line identifications, short messaging service, phone book and missed call details, while retaining the extremely low tariffs of a landline’.

As the interconnect usage charges (IUC) applicable for limited mobile services are different from fixed line wireless services, there appears to be an attempt by TTSL to evade the IUC charges, including access deficit charges (ADC), payable to BSNL for limited mobile services by providing limited mobile services in the disguise of fixed services.

The BSNL called upon TTSL to immediately pay the entire amount of IUC as per clause 6.4.9 of the interconnect agreement for all its calls of limited mobile service through its Walky scheme handed-over to BSNL on the BSNL trunk groups meant for fixed line traffic for the period of last two months, i.e. from November 14, 2004 to January 13, 2005.

Thus, the difference of the IUC charges, including the ADC in this regard should be paid by TTSL immediately. The ADC paid by BSNL to TTSL for the calls originated by limited mobile and cellular/fully mobile subscribers of BSNL and terminated on the numbering levels of Walky should be refunded to BSNL.

Further, the traffic information of the inter circle STD calls originated from/received in the numbering levels of Walky and terminated in / originated from the network of other limited mobile and fully mobile service providers and the incoming and outgoing ILD calls to / from the numbering levels of Walky are to be given to the respective BSNL circle offices for billing of ADC payable to BSNL for such calls.

TTSL was also called upon to immediately stop the operation of its Walky service using numbering levels of fixed services without paying the IUC charges including ADC, which is applicable for limited mobile services, as the same is contrary to the license conditions, IUC regulations and also to the agreed terms and conditions of the interconnection agreement.

It is also understood that the details of the amount to be paid by TTSL to BSNL should also be furnished enabling BSNL to confirm and verify the correctness thereof in terms of the Interconnection agreement.

On the other hand, Ajay Pandey, president, regulatory affairs, TTSL, said: “In our opinion, we did not violate any TRAI guidelines as per the claims made by BSNL.” Telecom Dispute Settlement and Appellate Tribunal is going to give final judgment on Monday as now it becomes a nationwide issue, Pandey added.

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