abhay 0 Report post Posted October 18, 2005 (edited) hey guys yesterday i read a huge article on how GOOGLE is a big threat to microsoft and how google was almost 90% of the times sucessful in destroying all of microsofts plans! and again today a article in economic times saying Google poses threat to telecom, IT cos so i couldnt resists ending up starting this thread i need your views on these article! personally i do support google (or any open source/anti microsoft company in that case) about this wireless internet thing of google if it realises i think it will create a new wave WORLD OVER as reliance did after entering (remember the stating days of RIM) in indian telecom sector (but unlike reliance google's wave will be offcourse bigger) Edited October 18, 2005 by abhay Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Greens 21 Report post Posted October 19, 2005 Shall we expect an OS from Google to kill Windows!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kshah 452 Report post Posted October 19, 2005 good info Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
abhay 0 Report post Posted October 19, 2005 (edited) Shall we expect an OS from Google to kill Windows!!! 44360[/snapback] yup & and you know what i think "google office" is not that far away Edited October 19, 2005 by abhay Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
anujit 0 Report post Posted October 19, 2005 Google office is already here as Open Office (Sun's open source office system). And it would be silly for Google to develop an OS within the next 3-5 years given the complexity of it, making drivers work, getting apps ported to it etc etc etc. A simpler option would be to just have an interface that covers Windows from head to toe. The desktop search bar, Gbrowser etc are the right steps in this direction.... ... Unless of course they can "reinvent" the concept of the network PC (free WiFi in SF is the right steps in this direction). In which case all hell might break loose! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ashoksoft 83 Report post Posted October 19, 2005 Really true. ... and the day Google gets out with things ... one thing is for sure ... it is surely gonna be more reliable! Cheers Ashok Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
abhay 0 Report post Posted October 27, 2005 Google funds open source drive Google funds open source drive Google has diverted a small portion of its cash reserves towards funding open source projects. Specifically, the search giant has announced a $350,000 contribution to a joint open source initiative between Oregon State University and Portland State University. The grant, says Google, is intended to encourage open source software and hardware development and provide computing infrastructure for open source projects worldwide. 'We're extremely excited about the Oregon university open source initiative and thankful for Google's generous support,' said the state governor, Ted Kulongoski. 'This initiative will help our universities build on their leadership role in fostering the next generation of open source technologies, projects and experts in Oregon and around the world.' The donation is part of a number of Google open source initiatives - it also highlighted a $2m donation to a 'Summer of Code' programme, offering students an opportunity to work on technical projects. Organizations such as Apache and Samba and projects such as Nmap, Gaim and Internet2 took part in the programme, reports Chris DiBona, Google's Open Source Program Manager, on GoogleBlog. The new recruits reportedly 'made major improvements to the Nmap Security Scanner, including a more powerful graphical interface and a next-generation remote operating system detection framework,' he quotes Nmap's lead developer, Fyodor Vaskovich Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
abhay 0 Report post Posted October 27, 2005 (edited) Microsoft joins book search planMicrosoft has joined a Yahoo-backed effort to digitise the world's books and other works to make them searchable and accessible to anyone online. The software giant said it would work with the Open Content Alliance (OCA), set up by the Internet Archive, to initially put 150,000 works online. The move comes as Google faces growing legal pressure from publishers over its own global digital library plans. Microsoft said it would initially focus on works already in the public domain. This way, it hopes to avoid similar legal issues over copyright. Google said in a statement that it welcomed the move to make more information accessible to anyone online. hey whats with bill gates is he scared of google or what ? everything that google dose microsoft follows google search --> mirosoft search google email --> microsoft also increases its mail capacity (and now plans to make a microsoft version of gmail lmao lmao) google desktop --> msn desktop what the hell hs got into him man! Gates Welcomes Google CompetitionGoogle is fierce competition for Microsoft, but the software giant does not fear the race and plans to upgrade his search technology in the next six months, Microsoft CEO Bill Gates said in remarks published today. On his first-ever trip to Israel, Gates answered questions about Microsoft's fierce competition with Mountain View, California-based Google. "We are not afraid of Google, but there is intense competition between us. Google is our main competitor, brilliant people work there, but Internet search engines are still in a terrible state compared to where they could be," Gates was quoted as saying. Microsoft and Yahoo already have been investing heavily in search, hoping to narrow Google's lead in the field. Google processed 45 percent of U.S search requests in September, outdistancing 23 percent for Yahoo and 12 percent for Microsoft's MSN, according to Nielsen/NetRatings. In addition, the latest Microsoft and Yahoo Alliance on digital book libraries are expected to challenge Google in digitizing many of the world's great books. Gates denied the Redmond, Washington-based Microsoft intends to acquire Google or other leading Internet companies. Microsoft has recently formed partnerships with Yahoo and RealNetworks , and is reportedly interested in buying a stake in Time Warner's AOL service. Google also has teamed up with with Comcast , the largest U.S. cable company, to explore buying a minority stake in AOL. ya by copying everything that google dose now lets c what m$ dose ! will he alos fund open source like BIG G Edited October 27, 2005 by abhay Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
linuxguy 0 Report post Posted October 27, 2005 Haha. It's very funny to see Google giving out 2600MB of space while M$ is still stuck at 250MB. Atleast Yahoo! got their act together and gave our 1000MB of space but initially they too started out with 100MB. One good thing about competition is that it really kicks the butt of monopoly! M$ used to give out ****Y!!! 2MB boxes and now they give out 250MB!!! Thats a phenomenal rise of 125 TIMES the original space Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
abhay 0 Report post Posted October 27, 2005 Haha. It's very funny to see Google giving out 2600MB of space while M$ is still stuck at 250MB. Atleast Yahoo! got their act together and gave our 1000MB of space but initially they too started out with 100MB. One good thing about competition is that it really kicks the butt of monopoly! M$ used to give out ****Y!!! 2MB boxes and now they give out 250MB!!! Thats a phenomenal rise of 125 TIMES the original space 45187[/snapback] very true linux guy but i still have 25 mb some some of my hotmail a/c's and they **** big time Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
anujit 0 Report post Posted October 27, 2005 Abhay: M$ has never come up with an orignial idea. Be it Dos, Windows, IE, Media Players, Browsers, Tools, most s/w features etc etc etc etc etc etc etc. What they do is take an existing idea get customer feedback and try to improve it based on that feedback and then release it back to the public. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
linuxguy 0 Report post Posted October 28, 2005 Hmm...I wonder what will happen if Google comes into India and starts Google ISP Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
abhay 0 Report post Posted October 28, 2005 (edited) Hmm...I wonder what will happen if Google comes into India and starts Google ISP 45231[/snapback] its highly impossible for google to start a isp in india! 1) google is buying the unused OFC from many countries which were laid down during .com boom but were of a waste when .com crashed 2)in inda only 4 companies as far as i know are major players in OFC's or pan india connectivity a) reliance B ) bharti c) bsnl d) hutch no one will be willing to sell their cables to google so that google can ***k em up 3) FDI limit :- so the comapny would not be totally a google company 4) if it dose even think of having a isp in india right now ! it will take years for google to actully implement it and by that time our very own isp's would be providing a connection @par with US companies! so it would be very tough for google to break into the market 5) if google comes to india right now @ this very moment and has all the connetivity it needs i dont think right now any company in india can match up with its plans not even reliance! i did not want to start another topic for this! here is come unrelated triva about GMAIL & EMAIL & offcource about the origin of '@' in email http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2005/10/gue...-turned-34.html Edited October 28, 2005 by abhay Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
linuxguy 0 Report post Posted October 29, 2005 abhay you are a pessimist. Google can setup WiMax all throughout the country No need of OFCs Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ashoksoft 83 Report post Posted October 29, 2005 yeah WiFi thro the length and breadth of the country ... and that too with the prevelant conditions in india ... yeah that is a real reality ! dream big ... dream linux! Cheers Ashok Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
linuxguy 0 Report post Posted October 29, 2005 Everything starts with a dream. When it becomes a reality it is no longer a dream Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
abhay 0 Report post Posted October 29, 2005 abhay you are a pessimist. Google can setup WiMax all throughout the country No need of OFCs 45319[/snapback] go throuh my 5'th poin again dude 5) if google comes to india right now @ this very moment and has all the connetivity it needs i dont think right now any company in india can match up with its plans not even reliance! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
abhay 0 Report post Posted October 31, 2005 (edited) IBM, Google Join Search ForcesBM has announced a new plug-in for its enterprise search technology, which will facilitate integration with Google Desktop for Enterprise. A free downloadable application; this will enable employees of companies to search for information on their computers. Together with the Google Desktop for Enterprise interface, the IBM WebSphere Information Integrator OmniFind Edition will enable finding and retrieval of varied content located on personal computers. Google had earlier announced, that Google Desktop for Enterprise is equipped to search the full text of IBM Lotus Notes mail messages stored on a local PC. As it is, IBM's enterprise search technology enables users to access information across the enterprise, ranging from content management systems such as IBM DB2 Content Manager, EMC Documentum and FileNet, to relational databases including IBM DB2 Universal Database, Oracle or Microsoft SQL Server, etc. The integration promises to further extend the reach of WebSphere Information Integrator OmniFind Edition, through the Google Desktop for Enterprise interface, to find information on users' computers. Dave Girouard, general manager, Google Enterprise, said, "Google Desktop for Enterprise helps users navigate the growing sea of information on their PC, including their overflowing inbox, documents, presentations, PDF files, and web pages they've visited. We're pleased IBM is integrating its search solution with Google Desktop for Enterprise, enabling its customers to use multiple software solutions to reach a broader set of enterprise data sources." Jon Prial, vice president - content management and discovery, IBM, said, "With this announcement, we are providing IBM enterprise search customers, additional tools to help them more easily find information wherever it is, now including the desktop. WebSphere Information Integrator OmniFind Edition is the first mainstream, enterprise scale solution that enables users to search, based on concepts and facts, not just keywords, to find the exact information they are looking for across the enterprise. This, coupled with Google Desktop for Enterprise, creates a powerful search combination across the desktop and a variety of enterprise sources." Google Desktop for Enterprise is available for download, at no cost, from http://desktop.google.com/enterprise; IBM WebSphere Information Integrator OmniFind Edition Plug-In for Google Desktop for Enterprise, can be downloaded free of cost, from the IBM DeveloperWorks site. hey guys dont u c google + ibm + sun will be developing some kind of strategic alliance how cool google + ibm + sun V/S M$ + yahoo + intel now lets c where dose this ends up in some more elaborate news MSN: Book Search to the Rescue There's a reason why Microsoft is sleeping with the enemy, Yahoo, for its book search project. The reason is its fast declining market share in the online "eyeballs" market. Ever since Microsoft got into the Web Portals game, they have been targeting Yahoo's market share; they even cloned Yahoo's look and feel for their MSN homepage, and after aggressive promotions, and by setting Internet Explorer's default home page to MSN, were pretty successful in their own right, gradually becoming the world's second largest network of sites when it comes to traffic (with MSN, Hotmail, and Microsoft.com). That was encouraging, and Microsoft was fairly bullish about their expectations of where they would be in years to come, until Google landed to spoil the party. According to Alexa, Internet's most reliable source for traffic ranks, Yahoo, at the #1 spot, reaches out to about 298,250 million users; MSN, at #2, reaches out to 272,150 million; and Google, at #3, reaches out to 226,150 million users. But that's not where it stops. Google's reach has been growing at a pace of 18 per cent per annum, while MSN has seen a decline at a rate of 12 per cent, and Yahoo is declining at 8 per cent. At this rate, Google would displace MSN from its #2 spot by mid-next year. Google has been trying to expand its own "Google Print" book search project, by offering the world's top libraries to scan all the books they hold, but publishers and authors have objected to the idea, and despite the fact that what Google is doing will in the end benefit the authors, and not violate any copyrights, they don't seem to be ready to hear Google's argument. On the other hand, Microsoft has decided to join the Open Content Alliance (OCA), a group founded by Yahoo and a few other organizations, and work with them to scan and digitize publicly available print materials (old books, periodicals etc. on which copyrights have expired) for now, until it can use its clout to gather rights to scan and make available more recent, copyrighted works. Whether this is a good move or not, only time will tell, but this series of events makes one thing very clear; Microsoft will go to "any extent" to keep the competition at bay, even if that means partnering with those that were considered its enemies in the past. Desperation brings out the worst (or the best) in some, we'll just have to wait and watch which one it is in case of Microsoft. haha m$'s share is declining ! hey by the way google was number 1 when did it reach to position 3 Edited October 31, 2005 by abhay Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ashoksoft 83 Report post Posted October 31, 2005 The consumer defines the company. MSN / Yahoo offered services with a feel and a deal wishing that a few customers would buy their services. Google stepped up... as a research company ... just aiming at growth. Look at the kind of service u see in their search engine, mail, mapping (google earth), Desktop Search (google desktop) and what not .... and considering the rate of growth in the last couple of months, I will not be surprised the day I switch on a comp and see Google OS booting... and well if their tie ups with SUN is to be seen ... well "G! OpenOffice" might be the next product. BTW Google also has been foraying into Mobile development, and considering the kind of geeks they are hiring (they flung my resume down the drain .... I am sure) well it will not be long when they offer competition in the hardware arena too! Cheers Ashok Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
abhay 0 Report post Posted November 1, 2005 (edited) i had seen the kind of resumes they were expecting ! and the strangest part was i never knew that these kind of people actully existed lol! Edited November 1, 2005 by abhay Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
niket 0 Report post Posted November 1, 2005 Shall we expect an OS from Google to kill Windows!!! 44360[/snapback] Shall we expect an OS from Google to kill Windows!!! 44360[/snapback] yup & and you know what i think "google office" is not that far away 44368[/snapback] see some links..below to know why we are expecting google office. http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=05/09/29/000223&tid=126 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_websites_using_Ajax most of the guys are using gmail. but little may know is based on all new concept AJAX originially developed by microsoft. at time of release IE 4.0 M$ guys introduced this concept. this will eventually alter the way we using internet currently. WEB2.0 is waiting at horizon. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
abhay 0 Report post Posted November 4, 2005 Google Kicks Off Print Google is posting online its first batch of "public domain" books and documents, to be indexed in its search engine. The company had announced its library-scanning "Google Print Project" late last year. The material being put-up consists of books and government documents that are not protected by copyright, and are not entangled in battles over how much material can be scanned and indexed from five major libraries - the New York Public Library, the libraries of the University of Michigan and the University of Oxford, plus the libraries at Harvard and Stanford. Google's "public domain" works comprise Henry James novels, Civil War histories, Congressional acts, biographies of wealthy New Yorkers, and other volumes not covered by copyright. Google says that in the thousands of years that human beings have been producing written works, most people have little or no access to this vast collection. The search giant claims, that its "Google Print Project" is designed to make available these huge archives of knowledge, via a few clicks of the computer mouse. Of course the underlying goal is to attract more people, to click on Google's highly profitable Web site ads. The company has not revealed the number of books scanned from the libraries so far. However, in the next couple of years, it intends to create digital versions of millions of books stacked in the New York Public Library, and the four university libraries. What Google had not bargained for, is the bitter copyright dispute threatening to paralyze its ambitious plans. The Authors Guild and five major publishers have sued Google on charges, that Google is scanning copyrighted material belonging to the libraries without explicit permission. Google has countered by saying, that since it plans to show only snippets from the copyrighted books, its project constitutes "fair use" of the material. The company has also said that publishers stand to benefit from having their works included in this project, because of the free publicity they will get. Earlier this year Google postponed the scanning of copyrighted books, to give publishers and content owners time to "opt out" i.e. specify which copyrighted works they didn't want included. However this strategy did not work and Google was prevented from going ahead with its plans. This week, the company has resumed scanning of copyrighted material, with an emphasis on books which are no longer in print. Whatever the final outcome, the thought of a world-wide library instituted by Google is an engaging one for any avid reader across the globe. In contrast, the thought of such a project being shelved, is equally disturbing. Microsoft Unveils Online Windows Microsoft has previewed two new Internet-based software services - Windows Live and Microsoft Office Live - designed to deliver seamless experiences to individuals and small businesses. The new offerings combine the power of software plus services and are enhancements to the Microsoft Windows and Microsoft Office products. Windows Live is a set of personal Internet services and software designed to bring together in one place all of the relationships, information and interests people care about most, with more safety and security features across their PC, devices and the Web. Microsoft demonstrated early versions of several new Windows Live offerings, some of which are accessible at http://ideas.live.com, a new Web site where people can try the latest Windows Live beta services. Live.com serves as the personalized starting point for Windows Live services, and is powered by technologies such as RSS and Asynchronous JavaScript and XML (AJAX). It offers complete choice and customization for individuals, who want quick access to people and information. Windows Live services include Live Mail, which is a new, global, Web e-mail service. Existing MSN Hotmail users will be able to seamlessly upgrade to the new service. The Windows Live Messenger feature has instant messaging, file and photo sharing, PC-based calling, and more. It will enter the beta stage later this year. Windows Live Safety Center is a Web site, where users can scan for and remove viruses from their PC on demand. Other features include Windows OneCare Live, a previously announced PC health subscription that helps protect and maintain PCs via an integrated service that includes anti-virus, firewall, PC maintenance, and data backup and restore capability; Windows Live Favorites that enables individuals to access their Microsoft Internet Explorer and MSN Explorer favorites, from any PC that's online. Windows Live will be offered alongside MSN.com. Bill Gates, chairman and chief software architect, Microsoft, said, "These new offerings demonstrate how software is evolving through the power of services in ways that enable more dynamic and relevant experiences for people. Our goal is to make Windows, Office and Xbox further come alive for our customers at work, home and play." Ray Ozzie, chief technical officer, Microsoft, said, "Our dream is to deliver a seamless experience, where all the technology in your life and business comes together, in a way that 'just works' for you. Seamless experiences put people and the things they want to accomplish at the center, with technology easily and transparently connecting them to the people, devices and information that matter most." Windows Live will primarily be delivered free to users and supported by advertising, but subscription and transaction-based services also will be available. Windows Live extends the capabilities of Windows, through standard mechanisms that are publicly available for use by the developer and partner community. Because Windows Live is available separately from the Microsoft Windows product, users will be able to run Windows with or without the Windows Live services. David Cole, senior vice president, MSN, said, "Millions of people enjoy the programmed content that MSN.com offers, and we will continue to deliver that experience. Users also want more flexibility in creating a personalized experience, with access to customized content and communications. That s what Windows Live delivers." The company has also previewed Office Live, a new set of Internet-based services for growing and managing a business online. Designed to help companies establish an online presence, automate key internal and external business tasks, and collaborate with employees, partners and customers, the initial Office Live offerings are targeted at the approximately 28 million small businesses worldwide that have fewer than 10 employees each. These services can be used independently, but also integrate with Microsoft Office programs used regularly by more than 400 million people around the world, including Microsoft Outlook, Microsoft Excel, Microsoft Office Live Meeting and Microsoft Office Small Business Edition. Over time, the scope of Office Live services will expand. Microsoft is making its new live services available to developers to customize, extend and remix. Windows Live and Office Live will work with Windows through publicly available application programming interfaces (APIs), available for use by the developer and partner community. With the introduction of these live offerings, Microsoft remains committed to its strategic relationships with telecommunications, and hosting service providers to deliver a range of services, including data, video and voice services, to businesses and consumers. "We are embarking on the richest series of product releases in our company's 30-year history. Beyond the opportunities this presents for our customers and partners, these new live offerings represent an incredibly powerful way of enabling customers to more quickly access and benefit from the innovations being developed by our product teams", said Gates. The addition of Office Live and Windows Live services enables advertisers to reach an even larger, more engaged audience. Microsoft envisions an advertising network powered by MSN adCenter, wherein advertisers will have access to tools that provide them with control, insight and intelligence. wooops this thread seems to be getting longer as with the compitetion of m$ucks and BIG G Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
linuxguy 0 Report post Posted November 5, 2005 wow. windoze live is looking good. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chirag 5 Report post Posted November 6, 2005 Browsing will soon be lot easier Nilanjana S Roy | November 05, 2005 | Rediff.com Back when Gmail started in beta, there was a scramble for invites. You had to be invited either directly by Google, or through some one who already had a Gmail invite. The begging emails poured in: Can I have a Gmail invite if I walk your dog, pick up your laundry, do deeply illegal things to you on the welcome mat? Today, you can't give the damn things away - there are over a hundred useless invites piled up in my inbox, but no one wants them. Was Google's product launch for Gmail too successful, or not successful enough? Neither. Gmail got it right when it came to creating the initial buzz. Without that frantic demand for invites, it wouldn't have had a hope of taking on Yahoo! Mail and Hotmail. Launching email services in an age of Hotmail, AOL and Yahoo! Mail is a bit like trying to launch a great new cold drink in markets ruled by Coke and Pepsi. What was significant about Gmail wasn't that it was a decent email service, nor even that it was a successful product launch. For a growing segment of Net users, Gmail alerted us to the fact that Google Labs was now a regular stop on the browsing trail. Google Labs is a vast, open laboratory of projects that Google's employees are working on and that the public is free to testdrive. It's not a new concept: this is just beta testing taken to a mass audience. But in the year since Gmail was launched, Google Labs has successfully tested and released Google Earth, Google Scholar, Google Maps, Google Desktops and several other neat little web concepts. The Labs have become the place to go to if you're wondering what Google's future plans for world domination are. Google isn't alone in its attempt to conquer the hearts, minds and browsers of the globe; MSN and Yahoo! have been jostling the erstwhile search engine company for a while now. This year, MSN launched its Sandbox, a version of Google Labs; Yahoo! now has Yahoo! Next. It would be naïve to believe that these three companies will give away all their secrets. But there's enough up there to give you a sense of where the Big Three are headed. Google Print is still controversial; the attempt to create a worldwide searchable library has been imitated by Yahoo!, but copyright challenges are inevitable. Google is looking at blogs seriously; its Blog Search is one of the better dedicated blog engines around, and its new Reader, which allows you to read multiple blog "feeds" on one page, could be a killer app. Google Video is still clunky, but the idea that you should be able to search TV and video clips with as much ease as audio databases is bound to be copied. MSN Filter tries cleverly to combine a whole host of search functions, by using bloggers as human filters for the web - it's erratic, but a nice concept. NetScan aims to do for Usenet groups what a good blog search engine does for blogs, and Start is an attempt to do what all three companies are doing - build the ultimate interactive, personalised home page. Yahoo! has five different ways to search the web, from the quirky 'Mindset' to the cluster-search engine Web 2.0, on the anvil - like the other two, Yahoo! knows that search engines must mutate in order to keep up with evolving needs. But about the most exciting thing it has up on Next is Yahoo! Podcasts search. Is this beginning to sound familiar? Well, Google and MSN both have huge maps and globe searching facilities now; all three of them are improving audio search and moving towards newer ways of searching the web; and none of them can afford to ignore blogs, video or podcasts any more. I don't know whether it'll be a Yahoo!, MSN or Google world, but from the user's point of view, it's going to be a lot easier to browse. MSN Sandbox: http://sandbox.msn.com/ Google Labs: http://labs.google.com/ Yahoo! Next: http://next.yahoo.com/ wow. windoze live is looking good. Windows Live is something that Google used Ages back in this. Now Rediff uses it. Its something called as AJAX. Google for it and u'll know more! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
abhay 0 Report post Posted November 6, 2005 (edited) i dont get what is m$ucks trying to do with windowz live! could ne1 try and breif me on it Edited November 6, 2005 by abhay Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
