Chirag 5 Report post Posted November 10, 2005 (edited) Hit this site called http://www.yourbillbuddy.com Now thats what precisely guys on this Forum, or others require, most urgently! Check it out, and let me hear your views on this thread. This thread will be used to discuss on developing a tool for analysing n recommending the best tariff plan! With me, guys? Edited November 13, 2005 by Vishal Gupta Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ashoksoft 83 Report post Posted November 10, 2005 hmm nice concept ... consider my service down for the coding dept! Cheers Ashok Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chirag 5 Report post Posted November 11, 2005 hmm nice concept ... consider my service down for the coding dept! Cheers Ashok 46461[/snapback] So how do u think we can go abt it? any start up things? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RajanPERT 0 Report post Posted November 11, 2005 I think we first have to take someone's bills (minimum three bills) and discuss on that. So we can finalize what is basic requirements for this idea. If require i can provide my bills. Thanks and Take Care! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chirag 5 Report post Posted November 13, 2005 Well the idea is that, a user must be able to type in his approximate mins of calls to each(RIM/GSM/Landline) operator & for SMS per month. With that the application should respond with the top 3 tariff plans(prepaid & postpaid) which would keep his bill the lowest. And now all this would need to be circle-wise. Since we have ppl from different circles, they can help us get the tariff plans. To begin with, we can start with common tariff plans and then go ahead with Regional Plans! To begin with, i feel this is ok. Later there can be more things developed over this? Ashok and others, any ideas? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SexyGurl 0 Report post Posted November 13, 2005 Doesn't look rocket science to me .... just put together an excel sheet: 1. Put in all the details (numbers) related to all tariff plans. 2. And simple cell inputs from a user, will do the job. Addition, subtraction, multipliaction and division ... that's all I think are need to do the job .. with a few if then. I don't foresee, one needing to evaluate fourier transforms or numerical integration to obtain a monthy bill, from a given usage. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chirag 5 Report post Posted November 13, 2005 Neat! But with dynamic way the tariffs and plans update every 1-2months, by the time we prepare one excel sheet, they would change! So the idea is make a web interface, which is always online and can be updated with the new changes asap. But, if u r able to place an Excel Sheet in place with that for ur circle, that would be a great thing to see! How abt that? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SexyGurl 0 Report post Posted November 13, 2005 ME ??? ME, THE LAZY SCUM. ME, WHO IS ACTUALLY LOOKING FOR SOMEONE WHO COULD TYPE IN MY MESSAGES INTO RIMWEB, WHILE I DICTATE. ME, WHO IS LOOKING HOPEFULLY DOWN A EMPTY CORRIDOR THAT SOME F*KKER WILL COME OVER AND GET ME TEA. And you expect me to put together a EXCEL SHEET for you. Good, Very Good. It's good that you still hope that I'll actually do some useful work in my remaining life. Honestly, thank you for your unwavering confidence in me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
abhay 0 Report post Posted November 13, 2005 (edited) simple! get all the tarrif plans in india under one database which is to be updated by us user enters his location! pref of tech GSM or CDMA! and his monthly usage details! software analyzes the details and compares it with records! and boooom its done! hmmm the comlete application can take around 1 - 2 weekz! can be with desktop and with web interface! can be coded in .net! PS all the help will be needed! am ready to give my full time for the app! seems like a cool idea to me what say I think we first have to take someone's bills (minimum three bills) and discuss on that. So we can finalize what is basic requirements for this idea. If require i can provide my bills.Thanks and Take Care! 46603[/snapback] no neeed for billz ! just a complete set of all the bill plans! we can have one group for one operator responsible for all updates of bill plans! Neat! But with dynamic way the tariffs and plans update every 1-2months, by the time we prepare one excel sheet, they would change! So the idea is make a web interface, which is always online and can be updated with the new changes asap.But, if u r able to place an Excel Sheet in place with that for ur circle, that would be a great thing to see! How abt that? 46757[/snapback] for database side i can help developing it Edited November 13, 2005 by abhay Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SexyGurl 0 Report post Posted November 13, 2005 Oh yeah ... and when Abhay has made his application .. it's very likely that Baijal (of TRAI) will invite him to Delhi .... and award him with the Special Award for "Extraordinary Services to the Telecom Industry". Relax ... it's not worth the 3.97 users who will actually use it, before the application (1) collapses, or (2) becomes outdates. If it's not NECESSARY to do something ... It's NECESSARY that it MUST NOT be done. Though, I could offer you a half-an-hour long date, at a schedule of my conveniece .... if you do succeed in building that App. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
abhay 0 Report post Posted November 13, 2005 (edited) i dont know ! where are u trying to get @ Though, I could offer you a half-an-hour long date, at a schedule of my conveniece .... if you do succeed in building that App. i never said it could be developed alone PS :- and i do think its a kool idea to have the kind of applicaion that chirag sujj Edited November 13, 2005 by abhay Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
StaticElectricity 8 Report post Posted November 13, 2005 ah well, first thing that comes to mind while developing a web interface with databases.... ASP. I'll put in my 5 cents. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chirag 5 Report post Posted November 13, 2005 wats a better interface? .net or asp? Lets limit as of now to RIM only. Getting the tariff plans of each circle shudn't be that big a hassle. And i can take responsibility of entering the db(tariff plans) as soon as it changes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ashoksoft 83 Report post Posted November 13, 2005 let me chip in my efforts ... except for the fact that I am in my office most of the time ... and away from my beloved comp / lappy ... so will still work on it ! lets see ... Fields needed to compute predictive best plan : User's expected minutes of : Local calls to landlines Local calls to CDMA/WLL's Local calls to GSM Local Calls to RELIANCE MOBILES STD to Mobiles STD to Reliance ISD calls Internet usage R-World Usage On-net SMS Off-Net local SMS Off-Net National SMS Computing the bill would not be too tough will it? I guess a VB application can do the thingy in about 1 hour of code~! with an update feature to update the offline Database whenever there is a new plan / change to existing plan Cheers Ashok Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
abhay 0 Report post Posted November 13, 2005 vb seems good ashoksoft! but no web interface with it! lets meet up and decide i can help in database + developing with foll languages SQl VB JAVA JAVASCRIPT HTML ASP.NET -- > most prefered C# --> most prefered whateva suits u ppl Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
linuxguy 0 Report post Posted November 14, 2005 ah well,first thing that comes to mind while developing a web interface with databases.... ASP. I'll put in my 5 cents. 46795[/snapback] Nah! PHP Rocks! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Arun 795 Report post Posted November 15, 2005 Yes, I love PHP-MySQL combination too ! Though all depends on the availablility of a coder ! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
StaticElectricity 8 Report post Posted November 15, 2005 ah well, you guys beat me i dunno nil P of PHP Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
linuxguy 0 Report post Posted November 15, 2005 Arun, ME Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RajanPERT 0 Report post Posted November 15, 2005 Its great to see that We are trying to develop a real life program in which we will try to help RIMWEBians to find Best and Cheapest Tariff Plan. But i have one confusion in my mind. How can a person or individual describe its local or std call details ( to GSM, to CDMA, To Fixed Phone, To reliance etc.). It is very difficult to someone to find these details in Minutes and also so accurate and seperately. I am not against this idea, But want discussion in this regard whether it is possible or not. So i propose the idea of bill information, which is also used by the WEB, described by the Chirag. More Comments are invited. Thanks and Take Care! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Arun 795 Report post Posted November 16, 2005 What we need is an approximate/rough usage time calculation time from the user, and yes, it is a bit difficult for an user to calculate his expected monthly usage time. But I guess there is no other way to recommend the best tariff for an user without getting an approximate usage from him/her. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Puneet 0 Report post Posted November 16, 2005 Best way would be to analyse the past bills, and calculate the average usage in minutes. If E-bills are available, code can be developed to extract the relevent data from e-files. If itemized bills are available, data can be used to take advantage of on-net plans. What we need is data extracter from pdf files, in case of non-availability of bills, a user can be asked to input the relevent minutes. In the second case, best plan advisor can easily be made in an excel file. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
linuxguy 0 Report post Posted November 16, 2005 erm...rather than asking the user how much time he will spend on the phone, he should be asked to categorise his use. Alternative we can provide a facility to enter minutes... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ashoksoft 83 Report post Posted November 16, 2005 Guys ... lets put it this way ... we organize another meet sometime by DEC, and decide on whatz the best plan of action (in the mean time) I am making a prototype.... lets see what the outcome will be ... Cheers Ashok PS : Arun and Rajan, u might get a few buggy offliners on sat / sunday! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Arun 795 Report post Posted November 17, 2005 Puneet, extracting data from the PDF bill can be done in the next version of this application as it would require more advanced coding. For a start, we can get the approximate usage time input from the user. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
