Reliance Hacked?

[cracker 0]

Edited February 20, 2006 by cracker

[ani_meher 42]

**** man, you are a hacker. Ever heard it is "non ethical" or similar words, that say that peeping into other's stuff is wrong. Hope this thing will rebound on you someday.

And as per your finding, can it be that the user is not using any firewall, and hence you are having an open access to that pc?

Anyways, I would like to hear the mods' say on this.

[deVil81 0]

Who said that you are safe when using rconnect?????

I don't use rconnect but I know that it's nothing but a dialer. When you are connected to internet, you get real IP. Anyone can get access to your system(he doesn't have to be a pro hacker to do that), unless you secure yourself using some firewall, or UNsharing your shared docs. Its not reliance's Rconnect's fault if you are so dumb not to do this.

I personally use MTNL's broadband. I have installed my router on ethernet port, enabled the natting on the router and opened only the required ports on the router. If you can't do it, then atleast you can enable windows xp's firewall or get any free firewall (zone alarm etc.).

[MVP 3]

I don't see hows rconnect related to this. Was the other user using rconnect? And cracker would you PM me the name of that software?

[siva1983in 1]

I have experienced a lot of problems while using R connect. A lot of spywares come in. When i see the processes list, it is loaded with a huge number of spywares which keep on coming even if u end the process. Even if i manage to get rid of them, the next time i connect with RIM, they come back

While its true any net connection is prone to spywares, I didnt have that pblm with my dialup. Only RIM offers spywares. may be thats a MONSOON offer.. who knows

[ashoksoft 83]

Dude ... all u did was to do a port scan on a series of IP addresses, and tried to check shared resources. (rather use them) and well forget reliance, use any damn connection u can always do this ... if it is a shared connection (or even otherwise)...

If someone really needs to keep his butt safe .. try to plug the holes... in fact all the funky things u just gave the screen shots of ... have been tried around for ages .... and well they are the "PLUS POINTS" of using windows....

All's well that ends well... and this is "NOT HACKING" as termed by someone above. ... I would term this as "browsing the neighbour"

Cheers

Ashok

PS : lets sit on this one day .... try to use any resource from my comp ... can give u my IP range details [ssshh... I am sitting behind a NAT with 2 router (hardware) firewalls, and a software (personal) Firewall ... u cant even avtar packet ping me now ]

cheers

Ashok

[sarath 0]

Well, The choice of being a cracker or a hacker is of the person, so we can not be sure if he is a hacker or a cracker. A hacker would try to bring a hole in the os or a system to the open and try to work for a better / secure internet. Read ESR's definition of hacker here.

http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/hacker-howto.html#what_is

About RConnect is not secure, No internet connection is secure by default, I am against ISPs blocking your ports etc based on "security reasons". If one has to use internet, then he must learn to secure it too. Simply keeping a password would have prevented that (l)user's files from being accessed.

There are many firewalls freely available in the internet. If one doesnt have the time or patience to download and install one, its his negligence.

And to our Cracker, You can port scan, Entering to other;s systems is illegal in every part of the world. One simple advise, dont get busted, grow up.

- Sarath

[Arun 795]

I have experienced a lot of problems while using R connect. A lot of spywares come in. When i see the processes list, it is loaded with a huge number of spywares which keep on coming even if u end the process. Even if i manage to get rid of them, the next time i connect with RIM, they come back

While its true any net connection is prone to spywares, I didnt have that pblm with my dialup.  Only RIM offers spywares. may be thats a MONSOON offer.. who knows

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R-Connect doesn't have anything to do with the spywares. The same will happen with any ISP that you use unless the ISP uses firewalls or other protections at their end, which may be opposed by some users, as sarath pointed it out. What you need to have in your PC is an anti-spyware software to remove those spywares and then use a firewall-antivirus combination to keep your PC protected, rather than blaming it on the ISP.

[anujit 0]

Well Firewalls are one thing. Secondly the person(s) whose PCs you "browsed" didnt have an admin passwords or any decent security set. Which is the problem with most of us!

What does Rconnect or anyone have to do with that? You can browse any computer on any ISP with that. And doing such things without knowing its implications - thats the problem with script kiddies!!! :-)

RConnect would be "unsafe" only if you could login with RConnect using someone else's credentials.

Ashok: And what does Windows have to do with that? Wouldnt you be able to see the same shared resources on a Mac or Linux system?

Edited December 8, 2005 by anujit

[rEdshiFt 1]

Interesting Thread this

[SexyGurl 0]

I really very very wary about security .... viruses and all the cr*p.

I am planning to buy a desktop PC, with a large hard disk.

This is what I plan to do .... EXPERTS, PLEASE COMMENT / ADVISE ME on this strategy:

I'll buy a 40 GB hard disk ... and partition it 3 ways 20GB, 10GB and 10GB .... load operating system (all windows) on each.

1. My first 20 GB will be the sacred - damn important drive, where I could do my serious work. Studies, Projects etc.

WON'T CONNECT TO INTERNET EVER ... from this operating system / hard drive.

2. Second 10 GB ... to do porno-stuff .... will download and save only there. Naturally lots of ****ty sites, full of viruses and all crap.

I'll put whatever reasonable firewall etc. .... but you know nothing really works. And with the kind of stuff I'll visit.... I'm likely to get spyware, viruses .. all crap.

Will probably format this partition, when I get fedup with the irritation of viruses, spyware here ... reload the operating system.

3. The remaining 10 GB .... for accessing safe websites eg. microsoft, or .edu sites etc.

Now my questions:

1. Is my First 20GB portion perfectly safe from viruses, spyware. I'll never connect to the internet using it. ??

Do I need to install firewall, anti-virus on this .... u know these things slow up the system?

2. When I access the web for porno-sites using my second partition of 10 GB ... can virus move from my this partition to the other partitions

(Please note: I will never transfer a file or anything from this partition to the other partitions). ??

3. The last 10GB partition for internet access to "safe" sites: I would like to copy-paste only .pdf or .txt or secure software downloads (eg. zipped softwares) ... from this safe partion to my first partition of 20 GB.

How to do this?

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In general, is my first 20GB with very very important data .... completely secure in these circumstances .... from viruses as well as anyone (like cracker ) poking their unwanted noses in?

[Arun 795]

Your main partition can get affected when virus are downloaded to your second patition. Viruses can even affect the boot sector and your entire hard disk can be prone to the virus. This isn't a wise solution at all

[ashoksoft 83]

Ashok: And what does Windows have to do with that? Wouldnt you be able to see the same shared resources on a Mac or Linux system?

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Sire the protocols....

ever seen the resources on your windows machine being out to the world, coz MS Windows "Network Neighbourhood" / " My network places" etc understand a lot about comps on the same protos ?

And I do not say that things are WAY different being on Linux.. except that u do not generally see the crop ups the way windows allows sharing (and dude a password is a default there .... )

Cheers

Ashok

[SexyGurl 0]

Your main partition can get affected when virus are downloaded to your second patition. Viruses can even affect the boot sector and your entire hard disk can be prone to the virus. This isn't a wise solution at all

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Oh my God !

So, what should I do?

Just don't tell me to buy, 3 different PCs !!!! - One for genuine work, one for porn and one for serious web browsing

What's better than this?

EDIT: Just got a thought I could buy 3 different hard disks and keep putting them into the slots, one at a time (with each of the 3 hard-disks having their own operating and even their own boot sector).

Gosh ! I don't know if frequent inserting / removing the hard disks will damage them .... or if their is any other problem in this scheme.

(But I don't think virus from one session using hard disk 2, can be transferred to hard disk 3 this way. Right?

After all viruses can get saved only on the hard disk, not in RAM or whatever other memory is available with the computer. No?)

Edited December 8, 2005 by SexyGurl

[Puneet 0]

Three terms to define whatever carcker did. "Network Neighbourhood", "TracePing" and "Ignorants on PC". I would agree in toto with what Ashok said.

@SexyGurl: Having three partitions with three windows is not going to help you, if a virus really comes on to your PC. I would say you get two HDDs, install windows on one, use it for all the serious puposes, and maybe for safe browsing too. Just get a good firewall and anti-virus. And on the ohter one install Linux and browse as many porn sites as you want, you would be safe from viruses - till the time Ashok or linuxguy write a virus for linux and plant it on your comp

[raccoon 53]

SexyGurl, as Arun Pointed out, the solutions you have suggest are FULL of holes! Do not decieve yourself that you can be protected thru those means. And about swapping HDDs, I woudlnt even consider it. You may end up damaging the connectors or even the HDDs, eventually. Also, you'd need to power down every time you want to swap HDDs, etc, which is bad for the machine. And while at all this, you will spend more time messing around with ur PC than doing any productive work!

And yes, mostly viruses can remain on your HDD only. Once RAM is powered off for sometime, memory resident viruses will be wiped out ...however there are also some rare ones which can affect ur BIOS ...if that happens ...bad luck!

Better you look at software that allows you to create a virtual drive. You can use all that your not so safe things ...and then just delete the drive. I dont remember the name of the software right now ...and have not used it. But its supposed to be useful for esp. this kind of thing.

The 2nd option you can do is to crate and use only a limited user account in XP for web browsing, etc. That way, damage will be restricted to that account only ...which you can just delete after you mess up too much. But this is again not 100% secure ...and it can be irritating to work that environment (depends on ur use) ...but still, this will go a long way to ensure security.

But I dont know why you are suggesting such roundabout and tedious ways. I have XP, 4 partitions on my HDD, plenty of assorted data/proggies and I visit *ALL* kinds of sites ...and have successfully bounced every single strand of malware ever thrown at me.

[SexyGurl 0]

So, does that mean that LINUX is more or less completely immune to all viruses on the net ??

If so, sounds a very reasonable (and cheap) alternative to do porn-browsing fearlessly !

[SexyGurl 0]

The 2nd option you can do is to crate and use only a limited user account in XP for web browsing, etc. That way, damage will be restricted to that account only ...which you can just delete after you mess up too much.

Yeah .. I already did that when I did dirty stuff using my company laptop .... before those .. welll f*****s .. found out and confiscated my laptop, and moved me to a desktop.

[raccoon 53]

Well then you could crate another a/c on the desktop ...or better still look for a job in a porn friendly company!

[ronynandy 0]

There is no need to be paranoic about security.Only a few procedures should be followed.

(1)Have the automatic updates on in Windows.

(2)Always work with a limited user account.For installing

softwares you can always use Runas command.

(3)Install Zone Alarm Security Suite which includes Anti virus

Anti Spyware(realtime-it will prevent spyware entering the

system),it also includes a triple protection firewall.

(4)Also install Ad-Watch(Realtime version of Ad-Aware) as a

second line of defense.

I think this is enough to surf the whole of the net.This is more than enough to prevent Script Kiddies.And,hackers have better things to do than hacking your system.

Also use FireFox or Avant Browser with Java Script disabled.

In Avant also disable ActiveX.

Edited December 8, 2005 by ronynandy

[asher 2]

I found Software name DEEP FREEZE Which will lock your hard disk .Means Once you Install it ,it will not accept any changes.So Formate your system Install it and forget about VIRUSES.

Deep Freeze

Comments Please....

Edited December 8, 2005 by Arun

[linuxguy 0]

...till the time Ashok or linuxguy write a virus for linux and plant it on your comp

*glances menacingly at puneet*

mmhhhmmm.....i am NOT a cracker kinda guy. So sexygurl need not fear a Linux virus...

hey cracker, can you crack my computer? I will give you my IP. Here it is: 192.168.0.5

Oh BTW its protected by a router running Debian GNU / Linux with a SPI Firewall and an IDS and some really smart apps And I use Linux on my desktop too. So no use trying to crack my computer with Windoze vulnerabilites

And that was really n00bish of you to post. It isn't really a fault of Reliance that some very stupid people have left NetBIOS enabled, is it?

So, does that mean that LINUX is more or less completely immune to all viruses on the net ??

If so, sounds a very reasonable (and cheap) alternative to do porn-browsing fearlessly !

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What is it with you and PORN?! Every other post you make is requesting for a method to get porn, poRN, pORN and MORE PORN!!!

[amitbt22 2]

Try Microsoft Giant Antispyware & Quick Heal Total Security 2006.It Will be Fantastic Combination.

[raccoon 53]

Most of those things are FANTASTIC at bringing your machine to a crawl!

[cracker 0]

Edited February 20, 2006 by cracker