Mantraway.com are Real Rippers

[linuxguy 0]

you decide

Hehe, services open on his "Server"

PORT STATE SERVICE

21/tcp open ftp

23/tcp closed telnet

25/tcp open smtp

53/tcp open domain

80/tcp open http

110/tcp open pop3

143/tcp open imap

220/tcp closed imap3

443/tcp open https

3389/tcp open ms-term-serv

Seems hes using Windows Server 2003 Enterprise Edition. I wonder if thats legal or not? The EE is supposed to be the costliest of all Win Server editions... May be he should be reported to M$ for piracy....

[Ashokjp 15]

http://www.microsoft.com/piracy/Reporting.mspx

[linuxguy 0]

hehehe. You are evil like me Ashokjp Santosh Jain you have some time before someone reports you. Just come clean and everything will be all right...

[Ashokjp 15]

For all of yours information his yahoo ids

god knows he might stop using everything after this listing.

here are the ids where u might get him

mcil_patna

suyalasit

contact_sunny_coolguy

seems_cool_cute

mantraway_india(his new id)

i guess 2 more is there. i removed it

[Santosh Jain 0]

For all of yours information his yahoo ids

god knows he might stop using everything after this listing.

here are the ids where u might get him

mcil_patna

suyalasit

contact_sunny_coolguy

seems_cool_cute

i guess 2 more is there. i removed it

Our server is SP1 installed which proves it's a legit copy. If you ppl have any confusion, report asap to microsoft anti-piracy cell.

Dont you ppl think, this forum is getting biased day by day hahaha

this is microsoft anti-piracy reporting link : http://www.microsoft.com/piracy/Reporting.mspx

Edited April 14, 2006 by Santosh Jain

[Ashokjp 15]

Well if that was the legit copy you wouldnt have been messagin me on yahoo

mcil_patna (4/15/2006 1:01:49 AM): mr ashok

mcil_patna (4/15/2006 1:02:06 AM): so you are reporting to microsft

mcil_patna (4/15/2006 1:02:15 AM): okay plz do

mcil_patna (4/15/2006 1:02:38 AM): we will also give u a good treat

mcil_patna (4/15/2006 1:02:39 AM):

installing SP1 doesnt in no way prove it is a legit copy. HAVENT U HEARD OF CRACKED LEGIT ?

You might not have bcz you never saw a original licemse. Have been using cracked softwares in each segment right ?

and btw sumit tiwari(so called santosh jain) you need not post the anti piracy link. bcz i had already done that. i wouldnt mind getting convinced that you might have never heard of such legal things before, else you wouldnt have played like this.

AND BTW I AM ReADY FOR yOUR TREAT. INCLUDE ICE CREAMS

Update:

got pm from his new id. For your info, i am no more going to talk to you on IM. come over public here. lets see what you have to say

mantraway_india: hey

mantraway_india: atlest report yaar

mantraway_india: but dont disturb

[ashoksoft 83]

Iski toh gayi!!! Jp sire!! we're around ... and btw as far as Mr. Tiwari's online manerrisms are concerned... I have some nice and FUNNY chat logs!! )

That chap does not have the volleys to play in the open, so tries the best his power(snicker)ful a** can do... are bhai ... come and play in the open naa ...

Cheers

Ashok

[manishag 17]

Our server is SP1 installed which proves it's a legit copy. If you ppl have any confusion, report asap to microsoft anti-piracy cell.

Dont you ppl think, this forum is getting biased day by day hahaha

this is microsoft anti-piracy reporting link :

hehehe,

Santosh Jain i have sp2 installed on my XP and also i have server 2003 wth service pack installed and its updated too. but i don't have license.

[Ashokjp 15]

i guess santosh jain considers a credit to be the largest scammer in this world. who is the only 1 who has the legit CRACK

btw correction he is sumit tiwari. or his new name in past 2 or 3 months, Santosh Jain

[Santosh Jain 0]

i guess santosh jain considers a credit to be the largest scammer in this world. who is the only 1 who has the legit CRACK

btw correction he is sumit tiwari. or his new name in past 2 or 3 months, Santosh Jain

First of all mind your language Mr. Ashok. Wait for Microsoft to investigate this issue. However, If I am scammer by having illegal copy of any software then what are you, who offered sumit, the cracked copy of Plesk????

And 2nd thing, your administrator Mr. Arun was selling illegal copies of SAP in chennai!!!!!

However you have few close scammer friends who r using illegal copy of softwares.

Our server is SP1 installed which proves it's a legit copy. If you ppl have any confusion, report asap to microsoft anti-piracy cell.

Dont you ppl think, this forum is getting biased day by day hahaha

this is microsoft anti-piracy reporting link :

hehehe,

Santosh Jain i have sp2 installed on my XP and also i have server 2003 wth service pack installed and its updated too. but i don't have license.

So, It's better for you all to do some useful work instead of wasting your time in typing this kind of biased notes.

[Arun 795]

And 2nd thing, your administrator Mr. Arun was selling illegal copies of SAP in chennai!!!!!

LOL !!! really ?? and why didn't you report it to the BSA or SAP ?

BTW, thanks for inviting me back to the thread, I've got some interesting posts from me coming next !

[Ashokjp 15]

First of all mind your language Mr. Ashok. Wait for Microsoft to investigate this issue. However, If I am scammer by having illegal copy of any software then what are you, who offered sumit, the cracked copy of Plesk????

Sumit or YOU

Sumit Tiwari and you - = MANTRAWAY (one man company)

SO atleast u accept u are a scammer having illegal copy..

OFFERED SUMIT ? CORRECTION PLZ.

I never gave him (sorry gave SUMIT TIWARI/SANTOSH JAIN) cracked version of plesk!. You ASKED me for cracked hosting control panels.. And moreover i never told u to start ur hosting with that. nor did i tell u to CHEAT PPL.

abe sale mujko language mind karne ko bolta hai. first MIND URS.

[theking 35]

Getting rocking again....Keep it on guys...

[ashoksoft 83]

Oh tuhar problemwa kaa hai babua? tuhar ko bahut baar bola naa ... chuck bhayyani ... lets get mumbaiyya ...

abe yee !! aadmi ko yeda banane ka toh idhar aa na ... ghiska ke sikha doonga ... bole toh ... bichara woh joh tere bharose hosting liya... zehergibi ... aur ab bechara pachta raha hai... aur choona lagane ke baad chipkili baita hai saala peed pe...

MS walon ko zyaada keeda karne ki aadat nahin hai ... they prefer frying up and serving the b**** of software piracy supporters ... hold on mate...

btw herez a chat log .. one of the many with the great "NON" scamster

xtermin (1/31/2006 1:16:01 AM): hi ... ashoksoft from rimweb here

mcil_patna (1/31/2006 1:16:17 AM): yes

xtermin (1/31/2006 1:16:30 AM): well what was the naya rag running around

xtermin (1/31/2006 1:16:31 AM): ???

xtermin (1/31/2006 1:16:50 AM): I was getting complaints from a lot of people around about issues with ur multi id spams

xtermin (1/31/2006 1:17:30 AM): when u had the guts to speak with one of the admins today thro phone .... did u ever whois rimweb ? ?? u should have contacted me too .. and I would have had a nice word with u

mcil_patna (1/31/2006 1:18:31 AM): well first of all, review last two posts in ur forum thread regarding our company

xtermin (1/31/2006 1:18:46 AM): yeah I am going thro that

mcil_patna (1/31/2006 1:18:54 AM): then think yourself who is doing correct and who is not

xtermin (1/31/2006 1:19:53 AM): yeah ... lemme read that fully

xtermin (1/31/2006 1:19:54 AM): 2 mins

xtermin (1/31/2006 1:20:18 AM): u have 2 ids nothing big in that mate ...

xtermin (1/31/2006 1:20:30 AM): even i can make a million nothing much in that right

mcil_patna (1/31/2006 1:20:31 AM): then after

mcil_patna (1/31/2006 1:21:05 AM): well buddy without knowing the actual problem between us and customer

xtermin (1/31/2006 1:21:05 AM): maybe u never really read what my profession is

xtermin (1/31/2006 1:21:15 AM): well I did read that

mcil_patna (1/31/2006 1:21:29 AM): letus solve

xtermin (1/31/2006 1:21:40 AM): tell me ur side of the story

mcil_patna (1/31/2006 1:21:42 AM): do not come in between me and my customer

xtermin (1/31/2006 1:21:50 AM): ohh k ... no props with that

xtermin (1/31/2006 1:22:05 AM): but then ur customer is posting the issue on rimweb ... which is public

mcil_patna (1/31/2006 1:22:10 AM): forum is to discuss

xtermin (1/31/2006 1:22:16 AM): yeah

mcil_patna (1/31/2006 1:22:19 AM): not to personally make allegations

mcil_patna (1/31/2006 1:22:37 AM): towards anybody without knowing the correct information

xtermin (1/31/2006 1:22:50 AM): continue

mcil_patna (1/31/2006 1:23:26 AM): Hosting talk already deleted thread related with mantraway & customer allegation

mcil_patna (1/31/2006 1:23:55 AM): customer is make new allegation everyday

mcil_patna (1/31/2006 1:24:40 AM): we never commited customer to provide asp based api

xtermin (1/31/2006 1:24:42 AM): hmm I work with customer and tech support for an international company so I know how customer care is

xtermin (1/31/2006 1:24:46 AM): hmmm ... and

mcil_patna (1/31/2006 1:24:52 AM): if he is not knowing abt SMPP what we can do

mcil_patna (1/31/2006 1:25:01 AM): but still we are trying to provide

xtermin (1/31/2006 1:26:06 AM): sure .. so as a one off case why dont u develop the end product and provide it as a use it or lose it basis ?

mcil_patna (1/31/2006 1:27:48 AM): This customer should contact Mantraway directly, not through a public forum

xtermin (1/31/2006 1:29:26 AM): well.. from the outlook it seems the customer did try to contact mantraway

xtermin (1/31/2006 1:29:36 AM): which did not yield any positive outcomes right ?

mcil_patna (1/31/2006 1:29:47 AM): but always in nightime through phone

mcil_patna (1/31/2006 1:29:53 AM): night time*

xtermin (1/31/2006 1:30:20 AM): ok ... so he contacts at night thro phone naa ?

mcil_patna (1/31/2006 1:30:44 AM): yep but no one attends phone

xtermin (1/31/2006 1:30:51 AM): hmm ...

mcil_patna (1/31/2006 1:31:04 AM): he never sents email to support dept

xtermin (1/31/2006 1:31:24 AM): hmm ... and he claims that he can prove the mails naa

mcil_patna (1/31/2006 1:31:31 AM): sure lethim

xtermin (1/31/2006 1:31:55 AM): u ask him ... to prove ur innocence naa ?

xtermin (1/31/2006 1:32:04 AM): so that u can save ur own reputation

mcil_patna (1/31/2006 1:32:16 AM): from the first day he is saying abt so many things

mcil_patna (1/31/2006 1:32:25 AM): he is not able to send SMS .

mcil_patna (1/31/2006 1:32:43 AM): then who sents all those messages in past

xtermin (1/31/2006 1:32:55 AM): well can u provide proof about the same ?

xtermin (1/31/2006 1:33:09 AM): not print screen caps but realtime content ?

mcil_patna (1/31/2006 1:33:11 AM): can he provide abt there side

xtermin (1/31/2006 1:33:19 AM): coz if it is true we sure can hide the threade

mcil_patna (1/31/2006 1:33:39 AM): everything is working

mcil_patna (1/31/2006 1:33:48 AM): he was happy while purchasing

mcil_patna (1/31/2006 1:34:44 AM): he sents SMS fora long time & started demanding many otherthings '

mcil_patna (1/31/2006 1:34:51 AM): like free website designing

mcil_patna (1/31/2006 1:35:34 AM): we simply cant compromise & it's very unfortunate that indians are blaming indian

xtermin (1/31/2006 1:36:04 AM): once u are done with ur explaination I will start my questions session ... if that is okay

mcil_patna (1/31/2006 1:36:13 AM): sure

xtermin (1/31/2006 1:36:30 AM): Q1. can u prove the statistics of usage ?

mcil_patna (1/31/2006 1:36:51 AM): sure we have the log

mcil_patna (1/31/2006 1:36:58 AM): of all sms

xtermin (1/31/2006 1:37:52 AM): okay

xtermin (1/31/2006 1:38:17 AM): Q2. When he came public, why was there discussions running behind backs also ?

mcil_patna (1/31/2006 1:39:08 AM): Dont know, This was unfortunate that he comes infront of public and after 5 months

mcil_patna (1/31/2006 1:39:17 AM): according to him he never got service

xtermin (1/31/2006 1:39:19 AM): Q3. What is a non- licenced version of nowsms doing on a commercial site (nowsms confirmed that there is no registration from mantra / mantraway)

mcil_patna (1/31/2006 1:39:27 AM): & never got reply from last 5 months

xtermin (1/31/2006 1:39:40 AM): Q4. What is a 3UK mobile server doing with an SMSC ?

mcil_patna (1/31/2006 1:39:42 AM): in 5 months he never published anything

mcil_patna (1/31/2006 1:40:18 AM): well that's our route

xtermin (1/31/2006 1:40:38 AM): what ? a non licensed / cracked version of nowsms ?

xtermin (1/31/2006 1:40:43 AM): and using a 3 mobile ?

mcil_patna (1/31/2006 1:40:43 AM): nope

mcil_patna (1/31/2006 1:40:48 AM): we have licence

mcil_patna (1/31/2006 1:40:53 AM): we can proove

mcil_patna (1/31/2006 1:40:55 AM): prove

xtermin (1/31/2006 1:41:02 AM): hmm ... right .. I guess that might be needed

mcil_patna (1/31/2006 1:41:22 AM): we have legal OS, Softwares

xtermin (1/31/2006 1:41:26 AM): since I was asked to submit some details accross to some parties concerned.

xtermin (1/31/2006 1:41:32 AM): but what about the 3 UK mobile ?

mcil_patna (1/31/2006 1:42:02 AM): well u should not ask abt our routes based information that's tech part of our company

xtermin (1/31/2006 1:42:07 AM): I work with 3 btw ... and that is why I was wondering why there was a violation ....

mcil_patna (1/31/2006 1:42:07 AM): we can use any

xtermin (1/31/2006 1:42:29 AM): well 3 mobiles ( Pay as you go ) is meant to be used under certain rules

xtermin (1/31/2006 1:42:36 AM): and I just had a confirmation from TRS

xtermin (1/31/2006 1:42:48 AM): which is our tech dept where I am based

mcil_patna (1/31/2006 1:42:48 AM): well Mr.

xtermin (1/31/2006 1:42:51 AM): Ashok

xtermin (1/31/2006 1:42:54 AM): Ashok Karkera

mcil_patna (1/31/2006 1:43:14 AM): ur based in which company

mcil_patna (1/31/2006 1:43:17 AM): ?

xtermin (1/31/2006 1:43:28 AM): with Hutchison Wampoa "3"

xtermin (1/31/2006 1:43:46 AM): which is the current operator with a CMC rating of 96%

xtermin (1/31/2006 1:43:50 AM): in the UK

mcil_patna (1/31/2006 1:44:00 AM): well call company member get infor abtour service

mcil_patna (1/31/2006 1:44:06 AM): well we are legal

mcil_patna (1/31/2006 1:44:21 AM): taking large number of SMS from international market

xtermin (1/31/2006 1:44:23 AM): but read the terms and conditions of 3's contract

mcil_patna (1/31/2006 1:44:23 AM): and selling

xtermin (1/31/2006 1:44:38 AM): u are using a 12 month contract connection with a online 3000 plan

mcil_patna (1/31/2006 1:44:55 AM): well Mr. if u found any problem in contract defenetly i will get a call from your office

xtermin (1/31/2006 1:45:19 AM): yeps ... and that will be done only on complaint

mcil_patna (1/31/2006 1:45:26 AM): 3000

mcil_patna (1/31/2006 1:45:31 AM): what do u mean

xtermin (1/31/2006 1:45:32 AM): or only when there is a quesion raised to F&S

mcil_patna (1/31/2006 1:45:37 AM): which plan ur talking abt

xtermin (1/31/2006 1:45:39 AM): well that is the name of a priceplan

xtermin (1/31/2006 1:45:52 AM): which is a part of the early SMS campaign

mcil_patna (1/31/2006 1:46:00 AM): nope

mcil_patna (1/31/2006 1:46:23 AM): the person u cant get info abt our tariff also

mcil_patna (1/31/2006 1:46:36 AM): wrong info buddy

mcil_patna (1/31/2006 1:46:37 AM):

mcil_patna (1/31/2006 1:46:45 AM): check with ur company official

xtermin (1/31/2006 1:46:57 AM): hmm sure ... lemme get back to office I will check it myself

mcil_patna (1/31/2006 1:47:04 AM): sure

xtermin (1/31/2006 1:47:12 AM): in fact if u message me a number I will message u directly

xtermin (1/31/2006 1:47:15 AM): real time ...

mcil_patna (1/31/2006 1:47:42 AM): no problem Mr.

mcil_patna (1/31/2006 1:47:57 AM): have a nice time

xtermin (1/31/2006 1:48:02 AM): sure mate ...

xtermin (1/31/2006 1:48:27 AM): and hope to see u sorting out ur complaints with zehergaribi

xtermin (1/31/2006 1:48:40 AM): and we could probably think about somethings

xtermin (1/31/2006 1:57:43 AM): hey whoz Pritham Raj?

xtermin (1/31/2006 2:15:35 AM): hmm +4479

xtermin (1/31/2006 2:15:37 AM): Tmobile

xtermin (1/31/2006 2:15:38 AM): also

xtermin (1/31/2006 2:15:39 AM): nice

mcil_patna (1/31/2006 2:17:19 AM): so?

xtermin (1/31/2006 2:17:37 AM): nothing much was going thro BSTL registrations

mcil_patna (1/31/2006 2:17:48 AM): k

xtermin (1/31/2006 2:17:52 AM): and btw who was that chap ???

mcil_patna (1/31/2006 2:18:24 AM): well he is one of our client

xtermin (1/31/2006 2:18:33 AM): Pritham Raj .. hmm right

mcil_patna (1/31/2006 2:19:03 AM): yep

mcil_patna (1/31/2006 2:19:05 AM): so?

xtermin (1/31/2006 2:19:27 AM): seems like he has free calling around

xtermin (1/31/2006 2:19:36 AM): we had a call from the said person ...

mcil_patna (1/31/2006 2:19:48 AM): k

xtermin (1/31/2006 2:19:53 AM): the chap from freedominfoways

xtermin (1/31/2006 2:19:54 AM): ?

mcil_patna (1/31/2006 2:20:15 AM): Sify's Software Head Of North India

xtermin (1/31/2006 2:20:52 AM): yeah right ... btw Sify is a negated brand now

xtermin (1/31/2006 2:21:15 AM): and hey how about explaining the claimed 2MbPS connection?

mcil_patna (1/31/2006 2:22:23 AM): well we are offering services, that's all & hosting cannot be classified under any perticualar speed connection

mcil_patna (1/31/2006 2:22:55 AM): Indian 2 MBPS speed = USA Private 100 MBIT Connection

xtermin (1/31/2006 2:23:36 AM): well mate unfortunately .... again I think I learnt software engineering for four years

xtermin (1/31/2006 2:23:46 AM): a T1 Line and a 2 MBPS line is way different

mcil_patna (1/31/2006 2:24:20 AM): hve u heard abt FULL DUPLEX CIRCUIT

xtermin (1/31/2006 2:24:32 AM): and to classify server throughput ... the extent of data up/downlink from the server is to be considered ... which will never be Indian 2MBPS = USA 100MBPS

mcil_patna (1/31/2006 2:24:42 AM): we have 2 mbit fc Conn

xtermin (1/31/2006 2:24:50 AM): a full duplex is where simultaneous Up/Downlinking is allowed

xtermin (1/31/2006 2:25:00 AM): yeah right on a FD ACM ?

mcil_patna (1/31/2006 2:25:19 AM): pure line

mcil_patna (1/31/2006 2:25:25 AM): dedicated bandwidth

mcil_patna (1/31/2006 2:25:56 AM): well anyway keep on posting useless things regarding Mantraway becuase I dont care

xtermin (1/31/2006 2:26:05 AM): yeah ... and where is the server at ?

xtermin (1/31/2006 2:26:08 AM): Patna ?

xtermin (1/31/2006 2:26:21 AM): and which ISP have u tied up with for the hosting services?

mcil_patna (1/31/2006 2:26:42 AM): BSNL & SIFY

xtermin (1/31/2006 2:26:54 AM): I am asking coz I have a 1 MBPS line at home ... and never really felt that anything could not be done.

xtermin (1/31/2006 2:27:10 AM): hmm ... I take ur word for the same

xtermin (1/31/2006 2:30:21 AM): seems likezeher is online

mcil_patna (1/31/2006 2:30:29 AM): yea

mcil_patna (1/31/2006 2:30:52 AM): but i dont wanna talk him & he promised me to delete thread.

mcil_patna (1/31/2006 2:31:01 AM): his service is working

mcil_patna (1/31/2006 2:31:06 AM): let him use

xtermin (1/31/2006 2:31:17 AM): well he cannot delete the thread unless some of us consent

xtermin (1/31/2006 2:31:21 AM): from the moderators

mcil_patna (1/31/2006 2:33:10 AM): he need to

xtermin (1/31/2006 2:33:28 AM): well ... that is our call and not his

xtermin (1/31/2006 2:35:12 AM): and hence I guess we will have to sort out the issue

xtermin (1/31/2006 2:35:19 AM): btw I wanted to ask u one more thing

xtermin (1/31/2006 2:35:37 AM): myftp.org ?

xtermin (1/31/2006 2:35:43 AM): and no-ip ?

xtermin (1/31/2006 2:35:51 AM): why dynamic IPs for a server?

mcil_patna (1/31/2006 2:36:11 AM): yes DDIP Service becuase our ip may change as we have many connections to reduce downtime

xtermin (1/31/2006 2:36:42 AM): ohh I C...

xtermin (1/31/2006 2:37:10 AM): but then DDIP is not what a reputed company providing hosting uses

xtermin (1/31/2006 2:37:24 AM): coz personally speaking i've lived a long life till now

mcil_patna (1/31/2006 2:39:18 AM): lol

mcil_patna (1/31/2006 2:39:23 AM): we will look into the matter

xtermin (1/31/2006 2:39:42 AM): which one ?

mcil_patna (1/31/2006 2:40:12 AM): dedicated ip

mcil_patna (1/31/2006 2:40:31 AM): our ip does not change frequestly

mcil_patna (1/31/2006 2:40:35 AM): frequestly

mcil_patna (1/31/2006 2:40:41 AM): frequently

mcil_patna (1/31/2006 2:41:03 AM): anyway we will apply for a static ip pool

xtermin (1/31/2006 2:41:11 AM): hmm ... but as such a dedicated DSL will provide u a static IP

xtermin (1/31/2006 2:41:20 AM): or a IP Pool to be specific

mcil_patna (1/31/2006 2:42:35 AM): well we are already working with leased line & offering cable internet in our city for last 8 yrs

mcil_patna (1/31/2006 2:42:46 AM): with AG COMMUNICATION LTD brand

xtermin (1/31/2006 2:43:11 AM): hmm ...8 years

xtermin (1/31/2006 2:43:17 AM): that would be from 1998

mcil_patna (1/31/2006 2:43:17 AM): yes mr

mcil_patna (1/31/2006 2:43:26 AM): first operator in our state

xtermin (1/31/2006 2:43:31 AM): achha ...

xtermin (1/31/2006 2:43:40 AM): so no stake here in mumbai ?

mcil_patna (1/31/2006 2:44:00 AM): here in mumbai

mcil_patna (1/31/2006 2:44:04 AM):

mcil_patna (1/31/2006 2:44:08 AM): ur in mumbai

mcil_patna (1/31/2006 2:44:13 AM): and saying abt uk

mcil_patna (1/31/2006 2:44:16 AM):

mcil_patna (1/31/2006 2:44:20 AM): lies

xtermin (1/31/2006 2:44:31 AM): well I work with 3 UK

xtermin (1/31/2006 2:44:41 AM): u can have a background check on that also

xtermin (1/31/2006 2:44:53 AM): 3 has a operations and Network control centre here in mumbai

xtermin (1/31/2006 2:45:05 AM): we also have the CC BPO here

mcil_patna (1/31/2006 2:45:10 AM):

xtermin (1/31/2006 2:45:10 AM): it is in the same place

xtermin (1/31/2006 2:45:14 AM): get it mate ...

mcil_patna (1/31/2006 2:45:23 AM): working in BPO and talking like Chairmen

mcil_patna (1/31/2006 2:45:25 AM): or CEO

mcil_patna (1/31/2006 2:45:33 AM): nice

mcil_patna (1/31/2006 2:45:34 AM): man

xtermin (1/31/2006 2:45:39 AM): well I am not exactly in a BPO

xtermin (1/31/2006 2:45:45 AM): so I have a lil more authority

xtermin (1/31/2006 2:45:57 AM): since we are in the TSI ... which is Tech Sup India

xtermin (1/31/2006 2:46:00 AM): get it mate

xtermin (1/31/2006 2:46:14 AM): and u do not need to teach me to talk ... or rather how I need to talk ...

mcil_patna (1/31/2006 2:46:39 AM): lol

xtermin (1/31/2006 2:47:09 AM): and considering the way things are going I guess I am more than enuf for the one man fstar company running around

xtermin (1/31/2006 2:48:34 AM): and well getting down to the right stuff ... been coding and rev enggin for ages ... so therez a lot to kick about unlike some company's rep who has to run around threatening customers that his / her service will be stopped if a thread is not removed from a public forum that speaks ages about a real nut ...

xtermin (1/31/2006 2:48:50 AM): get a life mate ... I've dealt with many like u before ...

xtermin (1/31/2006 2:49:32 AM): and have always handled them real well ...infact the way I handle people is quite different .. and that is precisely why there is a reputation at stake for me .. and nothing much for "rippers"

mcil_patna (1/31/2006 2:49:52 AM): yes

mcil_patna (1/31/2006 2:50:00 AM): everycompany is doing

mcil_patna (1/31/2006 2:50:03 AM): we are also

xtermin (1/31/2006 2:50:23 AM): not everycompany is doing

mcil_patna (1/31/2006 2:50:29 AM): fine

xtermin (1/31/2006 2:50:37 AM): I have worked with some of the finest companies around

mcil_patna (1/31/2006 2:50:38 AM): conduct a survety

mcil_patna (1/31/2006 2:50:40 AM): survey

xtermin (1/31/2006 2:50:44 AM): of ?

mcil_patna (1/31/2006 2:52:09 AM): have a nice time

mcil_patna (1/31/2006 2:52:10 AM): bye

xtermin (1/31/2006 2:52:40 AM): survey of what ?

xtermin (1/31/2006 2:54:24 AM): what survey do u want me to conduct ? of how much u ceat people ?

xtermin (1/31/2006 2:54:33 AM): or how many companies cheat clients ?

mcil_patna (1/31/2006 2:54:55 AM): well man we are not cheating him

mcil_patna (1/31/2006 2:55:03 AM): he was using for last 5 months

mcil_patna (1/31/2006 2:55:17 AM): dont know what happened he started demanding money back

xtermin (1/31/2006 2:55:40 AM): prove it around .. or convince him to remove the thread... I've set his rights back

xtermin (1/31/2006 2:55:50 AM): so he can also delete the thread

mcil_patna (1/31/2006 2:56:19 AM): man how we can compromise and provide everything what he wants

mcil_patna (1/31/2006 2:56:39 AM): we have given him everything for what he ordred

xtermin (1/31/2006 2:56:44 AM): hmm ... did u mention the TOS at the time of hosting ?

xtermin (1/31/2006 2:58:00 AM): even I have a web site ... and I run an IRC server (which requires quite a lot of pp too) but till date not a single customer has complained

xtermin (1/31/2006 2:58:13 AM): or if any have ... we've sorted out the matter in hours to days

xtermin (1/31/2006 2:58:17 AM): not over months

xtermin (1/31/2006 2:58:29 AM): and now i've stopped those services all together

mcil_patna (1/31/2006 2:58:34 AM): k

xtermin (1/31/2006 2:58:42 AM): but still I maintain the relationship with all my customers

mcil_patna (1/31/2006 2:58:46 AM): i am going as of now

xtermin (1/31/2006 2:59:10 AM): right now where I work, often we credit back upto £ 400 back to customers

xtermin (1/31/2006 2:59:18 AM): for simple issues and stances

xtermin (1/31/2006 2:59:19 AM): why?

xtermin (1/31/2006 2:59:24 AM): only for company reputation

mcil_patna (1/31/2006 2:59:24 AM): why ur explaining to me

xtermin (1/31/2006 2:59:50 AM): so that at least u could provide a lil customer satisfaction to someone who was asking u for service.\

mcil_patna (1/31/2006 3:02:36 AM): ok

mcil_patna (1/31/2006 3:02:43 AM): thanks alot

xtermin (1/31/2006 3:02:48 AM): chal mate ... cya

xtermin (1/31/2006 3:02:59 AM): hope to see u resolve the issue of the customer

xtermin (1/31/2006 3:03:08 AM): btw I think the thread is also removed

xtermin (1/31/2006 3:03:23 AM): hmm yeah .. it is out of the list

xtermin (1/31/2006 3:03:25 AM): intresting

xtermin (1/31/2006 3:03:39 AM): kya kiya? gave him service again ?

xtermin (1/31/2006 3:03:46 AM): or issue resolved ?

Cheers...

more will follow as time passes,

Ashok

[Ashokjp 15]

Ye mera contribution

Monday 01/30/2006

BUZZ!!!

ashokjp2: hi

ashokjp2: yes

softy_lofty4u: well r u providing windows based hosting

ashokjp2: well we are giving Linux Hosting

ashokjp2: We provide

php

mysql

sqlite

ruby

perl

cgi

asp.net

rails

python

jsp

ashokjp2: all these are supported in our hosting.

softy_lofty4u: I found ur website address under RIM WEB.IN

ashokjp2: Well yup. i am there

ashokjp2:

softy_lofty4u: ok

ashokjp2: May i know your name :?

softy_lofty4u: that's fine

ashokjp2: hmm ok.. well if you need hosting let me know.

softy_lofty4u: I am Pritam Raj

softy_lofty4u: what is mantraway in ur forum

ashokjp2: you might have read it

softy_lofty4u: yes

ashokjp2: Mantraway.com is a company of scammers

softy_lofty4u: but...

ashokjp2: k Pritam, for small / personal sites we have plans like one year full hosting for 999rs only. or start a site with domain and hosting for 1300rs/year.

softy_lofty4u: ok

softy_lofty4u: I know the person frm Mantraway, he is sumit

ashokjp2: hmm k

softy_lofty4u: right

ashokjp2: yup

softy_lofty4u: he told that he given u 1 domain in past

ashokjp2: so ?

ashokjp2: does that prove he is not a scammer

softy_lofty4u: no i dont want to say this

ashokjp2: well the domain he gave was a .info which costed only 50rs. and moreover he rejected my payment.

ashokjp2: so if u know him you might have known this also

softy_lofty4u: yea but he given u

softy_lofty4u: actully i chatted with him

softy_lofty4u: few days back

softy_lofty4u: i think around 3-4 days back after seeing the forum

ashokjp2: well if he had given me, or he had made enough double loss in rimweb

ashokjp2: he had not paid advert

ashokjp2: fee

softy_lofty4u: u have any personal scam experience with him

ashokjp2: i guess arun doesnt take any1 for ad without payment.

ashokjp2: as such

ashokjp2: wihtout payment

ashokjp2: i told him he is friend

ashokjp2: and introduced him

softy_lofty4u: i see

ashokjp2: and dat was the last session.

ashokjp2: Btw.

ashokjp2: i wouldnt like to chat about all this to you.

ashokjp2: Hope you dont mind

ashokjp2: If you have anything to say

ashokjp2: go public

ashokjp2: in forum

softy_lofty4u: but he has already given sms service , site to that zeribi

ashokjp2: regarding this matter

softy_lofty4u: ok friend

softy_lofty4u: no problem

softy_lofty4u: my site is : freedominfoways.com

softy_lofty4u: i got some information that they are running on dynamic ip

softy_lofty4u: what's that

ashokjp2: usually domains are put on a static ip

ashokjp2: ip doesnt change

softy_lofty4u: ok

ashokjp2: but he has such pathetic situation that he couldnt afford that

softy_lofty4u: ok so it can cause some problem in my website

softy_lofty4u: ?

ashokjp2: ok so u are also hosting with him

softy_lofty4u: yes

ashokjp2: hope you arent from mantraway

softy_lofty4u: what

ashokjp2: anyways

softy_lofty4u: i have taken website space from them

ashokjp2: If you are their client

ashokjp2: it depends on u

softy_lofty4u: ok

softy_lofty4u: r u providing static ip's for websites?

ashokjp2: yes

softy_lofty4u: ok

softy_lofty4u: Arun was a hacker

softy_lofty4u: right

softy_lofty4u: 4 years back

ashokjp2: nop

softy_lofty4u: yep ppl say in chennai

ashokjp2: please mind your words sir

softy_lofty4u: i got this information from one of my friend in chennai

ashokjp2: well i dont care, but mind you please dont say that agin here.

softy_lofty4u: he was selling hacked softwares internationally & he was getting payments in his paypal account

softy_lofty4u: i dont know abt this

softy_lofty4u: but posting on forum can force ppl to think abt this

softy_lofty4u:

ashokjp2: Ok you try your words

ashokjp2: rest we will see

softy_lofty4u: it's my feeling

softy_lofty4u: well

softy_lofty4u: dont mind

ashokjp2: one min

softy_lofty4u: it was my feeling becuase

softy_lofty4u: ok

ashokjp2: k boss. you post your words

ashokjp2: as u wish

ashokjp2: we dont care

softy_lofty4u: i am not going to post

softy_lofty4u: anything

softy_lofty4u: but i request

softy_lofty4u: 1 request i have for u

softy_lofty4u: we are using Mantraway for 4 months

softy_lofty4u: and we never got any problem as u have mentioned on ur website abt mantraway

softy_lofty4u: but anyway

softy_lofty4u: actully we got mail from mantraway.com in our control panel mail

softy_lofty4u: stating that: What you this abt this article?

softy_lofty4u: then i seen the article and contacted you

ashokjp2: See you dnt have to tell me anything abt this issue

ashokjp2: you can go to forum

ashokjp2: post there

softy_lofty4u: if i say that u have taken my 5000 rs for services

softy_lofty4u: which u have not given me

softy_lofty4u: then

softy_lofty4u: this is bad ashok

ashokjp2: THen i will say you have taken 50000 from me

ashokjp2: dats all

softy_lofty4u: good

ashokjp2: tit for tat

softy_lofty4u:

ashokjp2: nothing there is false

softy_lofty4u: correct

softy_lofty4u: no problem friend dont mind my words

softy_lofty4u:

Btw he wasnt soo dan dada to give me .info for free. He needed cracked licenses.

Btw. softy_lofty4u is his id only.

[Arun 795]

softy_lofty4u: Arun was a hacker

softy_lofty4u: right

softy_lofty4u: 4 years back

ashokjp2: nop

softy_lofty4u: yep ppl say in chennai

ashokjp2: please mind your words sir

softy_lofty4u: i got this information from one of my friend in chennai

ashokjp2: well i dont care, but mind you please dont say that agin here.

softy_lofty4u: he was selling hacked softwares internationally & he was getting payments in his paypal account

LOL ! I'm loving this !

[ashoksoft 83]

And now for the best part ...

I received a call from one Mr. Anand, I was sleeping ... but the chap had the nuts to ask my sis to tell me to call him back...

just to see what the issue is gave a call back on 06122357781 and .. well I have the conversation recorded in a manner of speaking ...

and trust me it was fun to deal with the chap...

Anand : "Hello Mantraway"

I : "yeah hi, I had received a call sometime back from your number"

--- couple of keytaps ----

Anand : "Yes sir, we have received a complaint against your website, that our company's legal trademarks are being misused, for a post against a company you will need a media licence"

I : "Rimweb is a public forum, where discussions are allowed openly, and the post was initiated by a customer"

Anand : "Do you know the customer personally, or do you know anyone who was cheated by mantraway?"

I : "dependent question, and the answer is yes... I do"

Anand : "Tell me the names of the customer"

I : " I work in a similar industry, and information security is something I maintain.."

Anand : "If the post is not removed in the next 48 hours, be ready to face legal proceedings in the next 16 days"

I : "All the best mate... if u can action on a public forum, heard about the right to information act ? or the right to free speech?"

Anand : "I just wanted to let you know , have a nice day"

I : "Thank you, same to you"

********

I am waiting for that ...

Cheers

Ashok

[Ashokjp 15]

Hello.

Even i received miss calls from that no.

i was not available then...

hmm so it was our tiwari bhai sahab

BTW u CHANGED UR NAME AGAIN

ANAND... sounds nice

[Arun 795]

lol, thats not all.. check out the email I received yesterday. He seems to have sent it to Directi (our domain registrar) and kept a CC to me...

To: <abuse@directi.com>, <support@directi.com>

From: "support@mantraway.com" <support@mantraway.com>

CC: <*****@rimweb.in>

Subject: ATTN : Copyright voilation

Dear Sir/Madam,

Mantraway, Inc abuse dept has been aware that domain (rimweb.in) appear to be an illegal discussion forum. They are misusing our trademark, companies name and using bad language regarding our officials. They are running public forum without any media licence & misusing the trademark of more the one company.

We contacted several times to the person listed in technical administraive section of the domain whois record regarding this matter but they never taken any positive action regarding this matter.

This is our final warning to Rimweb.in and public domain registry (Domain provider of Rimweb.in) regarding this matter. However we are set to initiate legal action under indian courts from Monday.

If you have any query or help, please contact us on : +91-93341-26836 or fax us at : +91-612-2357781 .

Regards,

Abuse Processing Dept,

Mantraway, Inc

Why have you changed the deadline to after 48 hours now as per Ashok's conversation ? Didn't you mention Monday in the email ???

BTW, don't try to call me on phone as I don't want to waste my money talking crap with you (I'm on roaming). Or else I will take you to court for talking crap with me... lmao !!!

[ashoksoft 83]

AshokJp's conversation ... he mailed me a copy of the amr file ... LMAO!! it was a verbatim script ...

hey btw ... herez a small post :

http://broadbandforum.in/lofiversion/index.php/t4046.html

and one more proof that he cheated... once upon a time, when mantraway tried to fiddle with rimweb, and did not even make a payment :

http://www.rimweb.in/forums/index.php?showtopic=2817

so where was the honesty of mantraway then ???? and the chap had the guts to ask me the names of CUSTOMERS

Once upon a time http://www.rimweb.in/forums/index.php?showtopic=2276&st=15# he was a CEO mate ... check the signature...

Cheers

Ashok

[Ashokjp 15]

If you have any query or help, please contact us on : +91-93341-26836 or fax us at : +91-612-2357781 .

Was that FAX NO

i guess i was talking to him over FAX on that no

[ashoksoft 83]

man ... automated fax we have here never knew we could speak data-modem language...

ashokjp answer honestly, do u speak binary ?

[Ashokjp 15]

well sorry ashok i guess it happened without my knowledge, i will test myself connecting to net without my bsnl dsl modem.

Maybe i got this good deed by birth.

[theking 35]

ok dude...just let us know ur connecting speed...try du meter and tell us the 1/2 hr average kbps

[zehirgibi 0]

i am going to cry... they are still trying to lie and cheat people

If they claim their service is working, then please ask them why is smshunter.com not working (when I have paid for the service) ???? try opening it in your browser and you will get a 404 error !

They are lieing. They told in this forum that we were pleased with their sms service for 5 months (before we started this topic). TOTALLY LIE. we were never happy with it. we posted this topic after 5 months only because we found this forum after 5 months only.

They can copy/paste all logs and i can even give you REAL LOGS with screenshots. (including mail logs - can share my email password ) . also everybody here knows that we had put a test sms site for RIMweb users for about 3 - 4 weeks and the site sent about 300 sms, of which only 20% was delivered !!! then they closed the service again now !!!

And in this last 2 months period, I tried to call them many times. Each time the call got connected, they just cut the phone connection . i again emailed them several times and asked them why they closed smshunter.com and no reply of course.

Their sms-gateway has cracked license. You can email nowsms.com and ask

They are using activexperts.com smpp server with an illegal license (you can email them and ask them). activexperts.com contacted me to stop using their service without paying their company, and i told them i got that sms-gateway from mantraway.com (activexperts.com saw my email address from my website as we were testing sending SMS from our website)

I can provide you all screenshots of all emails.

Sumit Tuwari: try calling me before calling Mr Arun.

(btw Ashok, softy_lofty4u = sumit tuwari )

Btw other illegal programs they use :

Fake certicifacate issued from thawte.com (without their permission - they uninstalled it when they found a way to generate their own SSL ceritifcate )

Php Live chat on their web-site

Ask phplivechat staff and check if mantrway.com's license is legit or cracked one.

I can provide you all screenshots with whatever i have said in this forum. So there is no any point that will be against for us. I will take back interest in this issue after my exam which ends this week.

Edited April 16, 2006 by Arun